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Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
This green thermistor limiter 10 deg C over ambient with no throughput and
20 deg C over with 0.4 amp mains with amp driving load. |
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Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
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writes This green thermistor limiter 10 deg C over ambient with no throughput and 20 deg C over with 0.4 amp mains with amp driving load. Bit warmer than I would be comfortable with. -- Mike Tomlinson |
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Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
"Mike Tomlinson" Nutcase Kook" This green thermistor limiter 10 deg C over ambient with no throughput and 20 deg C over with 0.4 amp mains with amp driving load. Bit warmer than I would be comfortable with. ** So neither of you has a clue how NTC surge limiters are meant to work ? ...... Phil |
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Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
Mike Tomlinson wrote in message
... In article , N_Cook writes This green thermistor limiter 10 deg C over ambient with no throughput and 20 deg C over with 0.4 amp mains with amp driving load. Bit warmer than I would be comfortable with. -- Mike Tomlinson Odd you say that. The next amp I looked at, this time mixer amp but also 300W and toroid Tx. Owner bought knowing 2 of the 8 channels were duff and used as such for some years. He now needs all 8 ch . Before he owned it , it must have been dropped and broke the awkward size/shape mains switch. So someone spade jumpered the leads and covered with heatshrink, leaving un-blanked off hole in chassis. Under his heatshrink and touching the ordinary mains wire sleeving is an inrush thermistor. Black , with 0.8mm leads, marked SG 130, 3.2R cold, 0.8R 20 sec of soldering iron barrel. Presumably originally fixed to the sw and unsupported other lead other than cable tie further down the cable loom. Hopefully originally there was some woven glass sleeving over the thermistor data for SG130 RTI Surge Guard, 0.07 ohms at 7 amps max , 2.5R at 25 deg C 27 joules rating for a 15 x 6.3 mm black (body radiator?) lump and .8mm leads for anyone who can convert to temperature (not on the RTI datasheet) |
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Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
It looks as though you use the de-rating curve
http://www.rtie.com/ntc/surggard.htm So for 7 amp NTC running outside of short duration peaks say an average 1/3 of 7 amps of mains 240V for driven amp and less than rated mains fuse then 125 degrees would be the operational maximum of the thermistor. Would be nice to know a rule of thumb formula for real life "black body" radiator/convector temperature and power consumption whether disc thermistors or rod resistors |
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Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
Testing this SG 130 on a 12V SLA and headlamp, stabilised at 2.8 amp, .91V
over it and 102 deg C (ambient 18 deg C), no woven glass sleeve covering |
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