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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
Looking for IDC male connector, 40-pin for 80-conductor ribbon cable.
This is used on IDE hard drives. Or an 80-conductor cable with 1 each 40-pin male & female connectors. Can't seem to find a source, but that is probably because I'm not using good search terms... Anyone know where to find these? Thanks. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
DaveC wrote:
Looking for IDC male connector, 40-pin for 80-conductor ribbon cable. This is used on IDE hard drives. Or an 80-conductor cable with 1 each 40-pin male & female connectors. Can't seem to find a source, but that is probably because I'm not using good search terms... Anyone know where to find these? Thanks. Unless I missed what you're saying, such a cable should be available at any good computer hardware store. E.g., Newegg has them under Computer Hardware - Cables - IDE. Some are specifically said to have 80 conductors, but all models specced for ATA133 should be 80-conductor types. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...orefront-_-ide |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...010001%2011775 2968&name=IDE?cm_sp=cablessubcat001-_-flashstorefront-_-ide Those are cables with typically 1 female connector at one end and 2 female connectors at the other end. I need 1 female and 1 male connector. IDC male 40-pin for 80-conductor flat cable are apparently made from unobtainium... Dave |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
"DaveC" wrote in message ... Looking for IDC male connector, 40-pin for 80-conductor ribbon cable. This is used on IDE hard drives. Or an 80-conductor cable with 1 each 40-pin male & female connectors. Can't seem to find a source, but that is probably because I'm not using good search terms... Anyone know where to find these? Thanks. startech http://us.startech.com/product-list/ide Cheers |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
DaveC wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...010001%2011775 2968&name=IDE?cm_sp=cablessubcat001-_-flashstorefront-_-ide Those are cables with typically 1 female connector at one end and 2 female connectors at the other end. I need 1 female and 1 male connector. IDC male 40-pin for 80-conductor flat cable are apparently made from unobtainium... Oops. Sorry, I didn't read your post carefully enough. The time I needed *that* type of connector which was about 15 years ago for my Amiga, I made my own. I made a small pcb with two double rows of pads for header pins, spaced 0.1". The pins came from jumper headers salvaged from a dead PC card (everything had lots of jumpers those days). Rather tedious but I didn't have any alternative. One end of the female IDE cable plugged into one double row of pins and the other double row was free. If I had to make one again, I'd use a 40-pin IDC header block or the set of pins from an old IDE hard disk. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
startech
http://us.startech.com/product-list/ide No male connectors. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
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, DaveC wrote: Looking for IDC male connector, 40-pin for 80-conductor ribbon cable. This is used on IDE hard drives. Or an 80-conductor cable with 1 each 40-pin male & female connectors. Can't seem to find a source, but that is probably because I'm not using good search terms... Anyone know where to find these? Thanks. How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into it? |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into
it? This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2. Not good. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On 6 Mar., 18:32, DaveC wrote:
How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into it? This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2. Not good. put the female connector on the reverse side in one end? might even add (or remove) the strain relief that go on top of some idc connector so the connectors will still look to be on the same side -Lasse |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
put the female connector on the reverse side in one end?
The configuration of IDC connectors is such that you can put the connector on either side of the cable (with the #1 pin indicator at the same end) and you maintain the same pin connections. In other words, you can't reverse pins by flipping the connector. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:58:26 -0800, the renowned DaveC
wrote: Looking for IDC male connector, 40-pin for 80-conductor ribbon cable. This is used on IDE hard drives. Or an 80-conductor cable with 1 each 40-pin male & female connectors. Can't seem to find a source, but that is probably because I'm not using good search terms... Anyone know where to find these? Thanks. I don't think you'll find them. The female connectors have shorting links inside and I don't think I've ever seen a male one. Maybe you'll have to lay out a PCB. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:58:26 -0800, DaveC wrote:
Looking for IDC male connector, 40-pin for 80-conductor ribbon cable. This is used on IDE hard drives. Or an 80-conductor cable with 1 each 40-pin male & female connectors. Can't seem to find a source, but that is probably because I'm not using good search terms... Anyone know where to find these? Thanks. UDMA cables have specific "keying" where specific pins are not used. They are differential pairs where every other conductor is ground. Try hunting for UDMA male if you can handle the missing key. Not sure if clamping a standard 40 pin IDC onto an 80 pin flat cable yields the same thing. Probably does as I can't think of anything about a UDMA cable connector that is different other than the blocked pin. goddamned cross-posting idiot. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:37:57 -0800, DaveC wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...010001%2011775 2968&name=IDE?cm_sp=cablessubcat001-_-flashstorefront-_-ide Those are cables with typically 1 female connector at one end and 2 female connectors at the other end. I need 1 female and 1 male connector. IDC male 40-pin for 80-conductor flat cable are apparently made from unobtainium... Dave Desolder this: http://www.satacables.com/html/sata_to_ide_adapter.html Or buy this: http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a...N-MALE//1.html or buy the pins and make the header yourself without the shroud: http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a...Headers/1.html |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:32:30 -0800, DaveC wrote:
How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into it? This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2. Not good. This is also untrue and incorrect. It does not change the fact that it was a stupid suggestion though. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2.
Not good. This is also untrue and incorrect. It does not change the fact that it was a stupid suggestion though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_Plug.svg Can you come up with a way to connect pin 1 to pin 1 of two connectors, placed face to face, connected by a 40-pin header? |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
Those are cables with typically 1 female connector at one end and 2 female connectors at the other end. I need 1 female and 1 male connector. IDC male 40-pin for 80-conductor flat cable are apparently made from unobtainium... I don't think they make what you are looking for. You might be able to fake it with a make-male gizmo. That is plug a bunch of pins into a female connectot to turn it into a make connector. If you can't find something targeted at that use, a normal through-hole header might work. The board end will probably be too short. Mumble. Solder two together, or push the pins off a bit, or ... -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
"DaveC" wrote in message ... How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into it? This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2. Not good. ---- Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector wont do it wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the cable. Think about it. I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins would not be protected and get bent when in storage. mike |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
"m II" wrote in message ... "DaveC" wrote in message ... How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into it? This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2. Not good. ---- Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector wont do it wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the cable. Think about it. I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins would not be protected and get bent when in storage. mike ---- Oooops! my bad. I was in a rush after changing my computer time clock zone and Identity over a back to make a terrorist posting in other groups. I'm a complete idiot. I guess I should focus more after being a complete asshole online. mike |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector wont do it
wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the cable. Think about it. I think you need to get two F connectors and try it yourself. Put them face to face. Pin 1 aligns with pin 2. The M connector is *designed* to mate with the proper pins. F connectors were not designed for that. I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins would not be protected and get bent when in storage. http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=IDH40 |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
"DaveC" wrote in message ... Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector won€„¢t do it wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the cable. Think about it. I think you need to get two F connectors and try it yourself. Put them face to face. Pin 1 aligns with pin 2. The M connector is *designed* to mate with the proper pins. F connectors were not designed for that. I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins would not be protected and get bent when in storage. http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=IDH40 ---------------- What you implied was to turn the male header/connector around and face it the other way (face to face means one is reversed). Of course it will be pin 1 to 2. The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway, like the old days when the IDE cables had no orientation (not racism) gadgets on them. Not a big deal for somebody without 3D dyslexia. I can prove that by attempting to do crown molding on the ceiling....LOL mike |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway...
No it doesn't. There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1.
Suppose I have a gizmo that lets me connect female-female, but that scrambles the pinout. Does it get unscrambled if I use 2 of them in series? (adding a short chunk of cable with female-female.) -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1.
Suppose I have a gizmo that lets me connect female-female, but that scrambles the pinout. Does it get unscrambled if I use 2 of them in series? (adding a short chunk of cable with female-female.) Let us know how it works out. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
Hal Murray wrote: Those are cables with typically 1 female connector at one end and 2 female connectors at the other end. I need 1 female and 1 male connector. IDC male 40-pin for 80-conductor flat cable are apparently made from unobtainium... I don't think they make what you are looking for. You might be able to fake it with a make-male gizmo. That is plug a bunch of pins into a female connectot to turn it into a make connector. If you can't find something targeted at that use, a normal through-hole header might work. The board end will probably be too short. Mumble. Solder two together, or push the pins off a bit, or ... It won't work. You can't just solder two connectors together. That will swap the odd & even pin numbers and short out the entire buss. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
Hal Murray wrote: There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1. Suppose I have a gizmo that lets me connect female-female, but that scrambles the pinout. Does it get unscrambled if I use 2 of them in series? (adding a short chunk of cable with female-female.) You might as well go to a 40 conductor cable if you do that. The 80 conductor cabe is a set of transmission lines and the reflections from a mix of 40 & 80 pin conductors will screw it up. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:45:16 -0800, DaveC wrote:
I think you need to get two F connectors and try it yourself. Put them face to face. Pin 1 aligns with pin 2. You're an idiot. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
Op 3/7/2011 2:24 AM, DaveC schreef:
The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway... No it doesn't. There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1. There are two types of connctors. One AMP and one other, i think ansley, but i'm not shure. They use different pins for the stiped wire. As long as you dont mix brands, you have no problems. But it can be used to switch pins. -- pim. |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:46:16 +0100, tuinkabouter
wrote: Op 3/7/2011 2:24 AM, DaveC schreef: The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway... No it doesn't. There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1. There are two types of connctors. One AMP and one other, i think ansley, but i'm not shure. They use different pins for the stiped wire. As long as you dont mix brands, you have no problems. But it can be used to switch pins. The lunacy never ends. The pins are NOT defined by a brand name, idiot. They ARE defined by a standard. So IF you "found" a connector that was a different pinout (I doubt it), you were looking at a company that is or would soon be belly up. Do all gang boy generation retards have zero common sense? |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
The lunacy never ends. The pins are NOT defined by a brand name, idiot. They ARE defined by a standard. So IF you "found" a connector that was a different pinout (I doubt it), you were looking at a company that is or would soon be belly up. Do all gang boy generation retards have zero common sense? Seems that way.... |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
THIS IS HILARIOUS YOU HAVE AN 80 CONDUCTOR RIBBON CABLE? JUST TEAR IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND USE THE 40 PIN CONNECTOR AVAILABLE OF YOU EVER FIND ONE....OR DISCARD THAT IDEA AND GET A PROPER READY MADE CABLE. WHAT EVER YOU DO, DO NOT LISTEN TO TERROLL HE'S A FRUITCAKE STUCK ON STUPID. PAT ECUM |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:46:16 +0100, the renowned tuinkabouter
wrote: Op 3/7/2011 2:24 AM, DaveC schreef: The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway... No it doesn't. There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1. There are two types of connctors. One AMP and one other, i think ansley, but i'm not shure. They use different pins for the stiped wire. As long as you dont mix brands, you have no problems. But it can be used to switch pins. Actually there are three kinds of connectors for this application and they are color-coded (black, blue and grey). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:39:39 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:46:16 +0100, the renowned tuinkabouter wrote: Op 3/7/2011 2:24 AM, DaveC schreef: The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway... No it doesn't. There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1. There are two types of connctors. One AMP and one other, i think ansley, but i'm not shure. They use different pins for the stiped wire. As long as you dont mix brands, you have no problems. But it can be used to switch pins. Actually there are three kinds of connectors for this application and they are color-coded (black, blue and grey). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Wrong. There are three types of UDMA connector for UDMA applications. Show me where that is what he asked for. Note that he made NO request for any such item. He asked about a 40 pin parallel row (IDC) ribbon cable connector. Since UDMA connectors typically have molded in keyed pins (not useable), I doubt he wants a 39 pin connector. IF he does want a UDMA connector, there are plenty to be found. He wants the male header though, and that will NOT be a ribbon cable crimp-on item, though they do exist. |
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