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Two phases or not?
I'm posting this to try to settle an argument going on in another
newsgroup (alt.home.repair) about phases in electrical power. Over there, someone posted a question about GFCI breakers that morphed into a discussion of multiphase electrical power. A disagreement arose thereafter about whether a center-tapped transformer actually delivers two separate phases of electricity or not. I'd like to get opinions here, since at least some folks here have engineering backgrounds: over there (a.h.r.), not so much. People there tend to be more electrician types, rather than EEs and such. The discussion started with a mention of 2-phase power. Turns out that in the world of electrical power, this has a specific meaning. It refers to a now-obsolete system of generating power in 2 phases that were 90° apart, and was used at Niagara Falls: http://www.3phasepower.org/2phasesystems.htm And of course there's 3-phase power, widely used today. The problem is this: several people, myself included, contend that the two "legs" of power produced by a center-tapped transformer do, in fact, constitute two separate phases of power, 180° apart. (This is how household power is delivered in North America, with a step-down xfmr at the power pole delivering 240 volts in the form of 120-0-120.) Now it's true that in the electrical industry, this is called "split-phase" power, and if you tried to tell the guy behind the counter at the electrical supply house that it's 2-phase, he'd look at you funny. However, I (and others) say that this is, in fact, true 2-phase power, even if it's not called that. It just happens to be trivially easy to generate it from a single phase, as it only involves inversion. (Unlike 3-phase, which requires rotary converters or electronic devices to generate from single-phase power.) Take, for example, any push-pull amplifier with a phase inverter or phase splitter in front of it: it generates two separate phases out of a single phase. So, what do y'all say? -- Comment on quaint Usenet customs, from Usenet: To me, the *plonk...* reminds me of the old man at the public hearing who stands to make his point, then removes his hearing aid as a sign that he is not going to hear any rebuttals. |
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