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N_Cook January 9th 10 06:01 PM

Heuristic learning
 
No-one ever told me to be wary if test speaker voice-coil continuity with a
DVM.
Speaker o/c in the amp cab, but after process of removing showed proper
ohmage. Exposed pigtails looked ok and tested ok, so heated up and removed
the dome. Made wire-taps to both voice-coil lead outs and tested each
pigtail in turn.
Both had the same break at about the same point of slowly manually pushing
the cone in and out, so assumed I was deflecting the cone slightly. Very
unlikely the same paint-covered failure at the joins of pigtails to wires ,
or anywhere else, so what was I doing wrong?

Answers here please



hr(bob) [email protected] January 10th 10 04:50 AM

Heuristic learning
 
On Jan 9, 12:01*pm, "N_Cook" wrote:
No-one ever told me to be wary if test speaker voice-coil continuity with a
DVM.
Speaker o/c in the amp cab, but after process of removing showed proper
ohmage. Exposed pigtails looked ok and tested ok, so heated up and removed
the dome. Made wire-taps to both voice-coil lead outs and tested each
pigtail in turn.
Both had the same break at about the same point of slowly manually pushing
the cone in and out, so assumed I was deflecting the cone slightly. Very
unlikely the same paint-covered failure at the joins of pigtails to wires ,
or anywhere else, so what was I doing wrong?

Answers here please


From the west side of the pond.

What is o/c in the amp cab? The break could be at the wire junctions
in the soldering process introduced some contamination/corrosive
material. You don't say how old the speaker was, but any corrosion
combined with the repetitive motion could vause a weak spot, THen if
the volume was high, there could be local heating further aiding the
process of failure.

N_Cook January 10th 10 09:51 AM

Heuristic learning
 
N_Cook wrote in message
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No-one ever told me to be wary if test speaker voice-coil continuity with

a
DVM.
Speaker o/c in the amp cab, but after process of removing showed proper
ohmage. Exposed pigtails looked ok and tested ok, so heated up and removed
the dome. Made wire-taps to both voice-coil lead outs and tested each
pigtail in turn.
Both had the same break at about the same point of slowly manually pushing
the cone in and out, so assumed I was deflecting the cone slightly. Very
unlikely the same paint-covered failure at the joins of pigtails to wires

,
or anywhere else, so what was I doing wrong?

Answers here please




No breaks in the internal wiring.
With using DVM and pushing the cone, generated enough voltage to fool the
continuity mode into not bleeping. Intermittant fault was actually at the
outside tag terminal inside the solder, pigtail corrosion/fatigue but held
in place and disquised by the overlaying lacquer.



Ron January 10th 10 12:38 PM

Heuristic learning
 
On 10/01/2010 04:50, hr(bob) wrote:
On Jan 9, 12:01 pm, wrote:
No-one ever told me to be wary if test speaker voice-coil continuity with a
DVM.
Speaker o/c in the amp cab, but after process of removing showed proper
ohmage. Exposed pigtails looked ok and tested ok, so heated up and removed
the dome. Made wire-taps to both voice-coil lead outs and tested each
pigtail in turn.
Both had the same break at about the same point of slowly manually pushing
the cone in and out, so assumed I was deflecting the cone slightly. Very
unlikely the same paint-covered failure at the joins of pigtails to wires ,
or anywhere else, so what was I doing wrong?

Answers here please


From the west side of the pond.

What is o/c in the amp cab? The break could be at the wire junctions
in the soldering process introduced some contamination/corrosive
material. You don't say how old the speaker was, but any corrosion
combined with the repetitive motion could vause a weak spot, THen if
the volume was high, there could be local heating further aiding the
process of failure.


In my experience the first fail spot due to fatigue is the braid of the
pigtail where it's soldered to the connector tag, it's difficult to
spot. Next place is on the inside of the cone where the tail of the
voice coil is soldered to the pigtail. this is presuming that the
speaker isn't being overdriven or the v/c isnt rubbing in the gap.

Ron(UK)


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