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b November 7th 09 07:06 PM

ELBE E-15 tv with vertical/frame squeezing in
 
I'm currently trying to fix this ELBE 14" TV, chassis E15.
On power up, all appears well, but after about a minute (less on
subsequent switch-ons) the frame begins to twitch, then (relatively)
slowly squeezes in to the familiar horizontal line.

see extract from schematic he http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/...0vertical.jpeg

I have already changed most the capacitors including the 50v decoupler
and the 10uF on the supply/feed. No change. the supply voltage seemd
OK measured warm, but will measure this again from cold.
This fault seems odd to me, as usually in such cases there is either
no frame at all (open resistors, bad frame chip, broken connection,
etc) or a reduced image/foldover on power up (bad capacitors hi res
resistors, etc) which often improves with warmup. This, however,
appears to be the reverse.
Any ideas before I change the two o/p transistors?

TIA
-B

Jeroni Paul November 8th 09 10:59 PM

ELBE E-15 tv with vertical/frame squeezing in
 
On 7 Nov, 20:06, b wrote:
I'm currently trying to fix this ELBE 14" TV, chassis E15.
On power up, all appears well, but after about a minute (less on
subsequent switch-ons) the frame begins to twitch, then (relatively)
slowly squeezes in to the familiar horizontal line.


It sounds like the frame IC overheating, check that it is properly
attached to its heat sink, could also be due to some overload or
overvoltage. Many ICs have a temperature protection that limits the
output current if its internal die gets too hot. I once had this in a
Philips set and had to replace the frame IC, either it was oversensing
the temperature or its internal die fell off from its metal pad.

b November 11th 09 10:57 AM

ELBE E-15 tv with vertical/frame squeezing in
 
On 8 nov, 23:59, Jeroni Paul wrote:


It sounds like the frame IC overheating, check that it is properly
attached to its heat sink, could also be due to some overload or
overvoltage. Many ICs have a temperature protection that limits the
output current if its internal die gets too hot.


thanks, will follow that idea!
B


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