Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not the huge
console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed by Google using
"9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a restoration.
This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.

The chassis has a few topside rust spots (likely from mouse pee) but the
underside is quite clean and in good condition. I do not yet have the Photofact
and would appreciate knowing the years of manufacture of this set, and if
possible what plating was used on the chassis.

The CRT's outer dag is flaking; have any of you painted dag on CRTs to restore
the GND?

Any recommended tutorials on cabinet veneer repair and recommendations on
spot refinishing techniques?

Any chance of finding the schematic online (otherwise I'll cajole the local public
library system into finding the SAMs)?

Any opinions on the importance of this model and the level of restoration it
deserves? I would consider complete deconstruction and hot-dip replating of the
chassis if it merited such treatment, otherwise I would prefer to dress it up
with techniques of lesser magnitude.

Thanks,

Michael

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

The data for your 9104B TV is in Sams folder 105-10, and is available for
$7.00 directly from Sams at www.samswebsite.com. Just surf over to their
site and search for model 9104B, and you'll find it.

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"msg" wrote in message
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I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not the
huge
console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed by Google
using
"9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a
restoration.
This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.

The chassis has a few topside rust spots (likely from mouse pee) but the
underside is quite clean and in good condition. I do not yet have the
Photofact
and would appreciate knowing the years of manufacture of this set, and if
possible what plating was used on the chassis.

The CRT's outer dag is flaking; have any of you painted dag on CRTs to
restore
the GND?

Any recommended tutorials on cabinet veneer repair and recommendations on
spot refinishing techniques?

Any chance of finding the schematic online (otherwise I'll cajole the
local public
library system into finding the SAMs)?

Any opinions on the importance of this model and the level of restoration
it
deserves? I would consider complete deconstruction and hot-dip replating
of the
chassis if it merited such treatment, otherwise I would prefer to dress it
up
with techniques of lesser magnitude.

Thanks,

Michael

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

msg wrote:

I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not the
huge console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed by Google
using "9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a
restoration. This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.

snip

The CRT's outer dag is flaking; have any of you painted dag on CRTs to
restore the GND?

snip

Replying to myself: found references to SlipPlate from Grainger, P/N
1WVK7 http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1WVK7 as a well-adhering,
conductive substitution for aquadag. Suggestions were to strip remaining
old dag using paint stripper, soap and water wash, rinse, dry and spray
with the new coating.

Still interested in replies on other issues mentioned in the O.P.

Michael

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

On May 8, 10:53*am, msg wrote:
msg wrote:
I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not the
huge console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed by Google
using "9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a
restoration. *This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.

snip

The CRT's outer dag is flaking; have any of you painted dag on CRTs to
restore the GND?

snip

Replying to myself: found references to SlipPlate from Grainger, P/N
1WVK7http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1WVK7as a well-adhering,
conductive substitution for aquadag. Suggestions were to strip remaining
old dag using paint stripper, soap and water wash, rinse, dry and spray
with the new coating.

Still interested in replies on other issues mentioned in the O.P.

Michael

Sand the cabinet carefully and refinish exactly the same way you would
any good piece of furniture. Early cabinets were considered
furniture and were made as strong as any other piece of furniture. I
have just restored a 1953 Admiral tv console and the cabinet
refinishing took as long as the electronics repair. I just have to
put the chassis back in the cabinet and then it goes up for sale. The
CRT is in great condition, and for a 1953 set, the picture is
amazingly good.

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

hr(bob) wrote:
On May 8, 10:53 am, msg wrote:
msg wrote:
I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not the
huge console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed by Google
using "9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a
restoration. This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.
snip

The CRT's outer dag is flaking; have any of you painted dag on CRTs to
restore the GND?
snip

Replying to myself: found references to SlipPlate from Grainger, P/N
1WVK7http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1WVK7as a well-adhering,
conductive substitution for aquadag. Suggestions were to strip remaining
old dag using paint stripper, soap and water wash, rinse, dry and spray
with the new coating.

Still interested in replies on other issues mentioned in the O.P.

Michael

Sand the cabinet carefully and refinish exactly the same way you would
any good piece of furniture. Early cabinets were considered
furniture and were made as strong as any other piece of furniture. I
have just restored a 1953 Admiral tv console and the cabinet
refinishing took as long as the electronics repair. I just have to
put the chassis back in the cabinet and then it goes up for sale. The
CRT is in great condition, and for a 1953 set, the picture is
amazingly good.

Now all you need is an all-tubes HDTV converter box.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

"hr(bob) " wrote:

Sand the cabinet carefully and refinish exactly the same way you would
any good piece of furniture. Early cabinets were considered
furniture and were made as strong as any other piece of furniture. I
have just restored a 1953 Admiral tv console and the cabinet
refinishing took as long as the electronics repair. I just have to
put the chassis back in the cabinet and then it goes up for sale. The
CRT is in great condition, and for a 1953 set, the picture is
amazingly good.


The TV programs were better back then, as well. It was a new medium,
and people weren't afraid to try something new, unlike today's cookie
cutter formats.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

Not every cabinet needs to be sanded down to bare wood.

What sort of shape is your cabinet in? If you give a description, or even
better post a photo somewhere, we could advise on less destructive methods
that might produce a great-looking cabinet with a lot less work.

Many cabinets really need only touchups or spot refinishing. If yours falls
in that category, it would be a shame (and a big waste of time) to
completely destroy the original finish by sanding or stripping.

A good starter book on refinishing is "The Weekend Refinisher" by David
Johnson. Look on amazon.com or other booksellers. It has useful sections on
reviving an old finish without stripping.

The finish on your cabinet is lacquer. Avoid refinishing it with stuff like
polyurethane or spar varnish. It's the same amount of work either way. A
lacquer finish will look authentic and it will be easily reversible if you
don't like the result of your first attempt.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

Phil Nelson wrote:

Not every cabinet needs to be sanded down to bare wood.

What sort of shape is your cabinet in? If you give a description, or
even better post a photo somewhere, we could advise on less destructive
methods that might produce a great-looking cabinet with a lot less work.

I'll get it to a spot where a photo is possible and post the link later.

The overall finish is quite good, however it is the repairing of peeling and
chipping veneer at edges that is my concern. I would like to avoid obvious
seams where little replacement veneer chips may be needed.

snip

A good starter book on refinishing is "The Weekend Refinisher" by David
Johnson. Look on amazon.com or other booksellers. It has useful sections
on reviving an old finish without stripping.

I'll look for this book.

Thanks,

Michael

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

Phil Hobbs wrote:

hr(bob) wrote:

On May 8, 10:53 am, msg wrote:

msg wrote:

I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not
the
huge console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed
by Google
using "9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a
restoration. This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.

snip

Now all you need is an all-tubes HDTV converter box.

Perhaps a rack of KW26s as shown in this document could be repurposed for
the task:

http://jproc.ca/crypto/kw26.pdf

Michael

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

msg wrote:

I have stored a Stewart-Warner 9104-B TV-radio (in a small case, not the
huge console with phono seen in the two websites currently indexed by Google
using "9104-B" as a search term) for a long time and am considering a
restoration.

This is a round-tube set from perhaps the late 1940s.

The chassis has a few topside rust spots (likely from mouse pee) but the
underside is quite clean and in good condition.

I would appreciate learning if some of you have tried electrolytic replating
of bare metal where rust was sanded down, using a portable sponge wand.


... and would appreciate knowing the years of manufacture of this set

I would also appreciate learning the dates of manufacture for this model chassis.

and if possible what plating was used on the chassis.

Thanks,

Michael

Stewart-Warner 9104-B chassis (TV-radio combo)
 

msg wrote:

I would appreciate learning if some of you have tried electrolytic replating
of bare metal where rust was sanded down, using a portable sponge wand.


Try asking on news:rec.crafts.metalworking


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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!