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My old $10 electric jug finally failed due to arcing at the mains
socket. However the 2200W 240V heating element is still serviceable.
It occurred to me that it may be useful as a dummy load. Some
searching revealed that others have had the same idea.

My own element has a resistance of 27R to 28R which I suppose could be
used as a 1A load on a 24V supply. In the USA, a 120V 1500W element
would have a resistance of 9.6 ohms which may be close enough for
testing audio amplifiers. You wouldn't need to dismantle two working
jugs. Instead you could chop off the mains plug and connect the bare
wires to the amp's speaker terminals, or you could make an adapter
using a mains socket and a short length of cord. The dummy load would
be water cooled, and you could have a cup of coffee when you finished
testing. :-)

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On Dec 19, 3:05*pm, Franc Zabkar wrote:
My old $10 electric jug finally failed due to arcing at the mains
socket. However the 2200W 240V heating element is still serviceable.
It occurred to me that it may be useful as a dummy load. Some
searching revealed that others have had the same idea.

My own element has a resistance of 27R to 28R which I suppose could be
used as a 1A load on a 24V supply. In the USA, a 120V 1500W element
would have a resistance of 9.6 ohms which may be close enough for
testing audio amplifiers. You wouldn't need to dismantle two working
jugs. Instead you could chop off the mains plug and connect the bare
wires to the amp's speaker terminals, or you could make an adapter
using a mains socket and a short length of cord. The dummy load would
be water cooled, and you could have a cup of coffee when you finished
testing. :-)

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For someone on the west side of the big pond, what is an "electric
jug"?
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:21:26 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
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For someone on the west side of the big pond, what is an "electric
jug"?


Electric kettle.

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Franc Zabkar wrote:
My old $10 electric jug finally failed due to arcing at the mains
socket. However the 2200W 240V heating element is still serviceable.
It occurred to me that it may be useful as a dummy load. Some
searching revealed that others have had the same idea.

My own element has a resistance of 27R to 28R which I suppose could be
used as a 1A load on a 24V supply. In the USA, a 120V 1500W element
would have a resistance of 9.6 ohms which may be close enough for
testing audio amplifiers. You wouldn't need to dismantle two working
jugs. Instead you could chop off the mains plug and connect the bare
wires to the amp's speaker terminals, or you could make an adapter
using a mains socket and a short length of cord. The dummy load would
be water cooled, and you could have a cup of coffee when you finished
testing. :-)


If the heating element is made from a spring shaped resistance it may
have too much
inductance to be usable for some purposes. You might want to measure for
inductance.

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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:10:19 +1100, Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:21:26 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
put finger to keyboard and composed:

For someone on the west side of the big pond, what is an "electric
jug"?


Electric kettle.


Crock Pot


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Franc Zabkar wrote:
My old $10 electric jug finally failed due to arcing at the mains
socket. However the 2200W 240V heating element is still serviceable.
It occurred to me that it may be useful as a dummy load.


If the heating element is made from a spring shaped resistance it may
have too much
inductance to be usable for some purposes. You might want to measure for
inductance.

Bill K7NOM


The element I'm thinking of is not the exposed nichrome (?) wire type.
Instead it looks something like this:
http://www.sparepairs.com.au/images/...%209%20008.jpg

I don't know what the internal construction is like, but its
inductance does not register on my DMM's 2mH (milliHenry) scale. It
measures 26.8 ohms on my DMM, and between 27 and 28 ohms on Bob
Parker's ESR meter.

Here are several measurements of real speakers that I made using the
latter:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...c?dmode=source

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My old $10 electric jug finally failed due to arcing at the mains
socket. However the 2200W 240V heating element is still serviceable.
It occurred to me that it may be useful as a dummy load. Some
searching revealed that others have had the same idea.

My own element has a resistance of 27R to 28R which I suppose could be
used as a 1A load on a 24V supply. In the USA, a 120V 1500W element
would have a resistance of 9.6 ohms which may be close enough for
testing audio amplifiers. You wouldn't need to dismantle two working
jugs. Instead you could chop off the mains plug and connect the bare
wires to the amp's speaker terminals, or you could make an adapter
using a mains socket and a short length of cord. The dummy load would
be water cooled, and you could have a cup of coffee when you finished
testing. :-)

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I use 12v 20w and 50w halogen bulbs as dummy loads on power supplies, for
instance when I'm repairing LCD TV PSUs which output 24v at around 4 amps
for the backlights. I just hook them in series and parallel as required. A
couple of extra 'advantages' are that the low resistance when they are cold
does a good job of simulating the current surge that a 'real' backlight
inverter pulls when it strikes the tubes up, and the light output from the
lamps is a good indicator that the PSU is still running, when you are
leaving up the corner on extended soak test.

I've never tried one as an RF dummy load, but given that some of the low
power CB dummy loads from way back were just a small flashlamp-type bulb
grafted into a PL259 plug, I guess it might be worth dusting off my power
and SWR meters, to see what they are like. Might also be worth doing some
experiments at audio, although I do have a totally resistive high power load
that I normally use for testing.

Arfa


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