I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this.

On Dec 4, 8:57*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message

...



On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this

Focused help at www.8052.com

- mkaras

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:57:54 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:


"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this.

Be aware that the 87C51 includes lock bits that prevent reading of the
code after programming, as well as an optional encryption array, so it
may not be possible to clone your existing chip.

http://download.intel.com/design/mcs...s/27233504.pdf

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

"Rich Webb" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:57:54 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:


"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me
with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed
in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime
EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this.

Be aware that the 87C51 includes lock bits that prevent reading of the
code after programming, as well as an optional encryption array, so it
may not be possible to clone your existing chip.

http://download.intel.com/design/mcs...s/27233504.pdf

I origionally programmed the chip, so that should not be a problem.

In article ,
Bob F wrote:
I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC)
programmed in the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming
included? Or, if you have a programmer, and could help me out, that
would be perfect.

(I've been out of the loop too long. I hope some of these still exist.)

1. Ask, or check the notice board at Vetco (Bellevue/Redmond)
2. ditto Alphatronics (Tukwila)
3. Connect with the Seattle Robotics crowd

Both of these last two used to be really active on Usenet and the
web. Looks like they may have imploded?
4. http://www.amasci.com/
5. http://www.bluefeathertech.com/

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob F wrote:
I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC)
programmed in the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming
included? Or, if you have a programmer, and could help me out, that
would be perfect.

(I've been out of the loop too long. I hope some of these still exist.)

1. Ask, or check the notice board at Vetco (Bellevue/Redmond)
2. ditto Alphatronics (Tukwila)
3. Connect with the Seattle Robotics crowd

Both of these last two used to be really active on Usenet and the
web. Looks like they may have imploded?
4. http://www.amasci.com/
5. http://www.bluefeathertech.com/

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Thanks for the suggestions.

Bob

Bob F wrote:

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or, if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this.

There's plenty of cheap programmers on ebay last time I looked.

Graham

"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Bob F wrote:

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me
with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed
in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or,
if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime
EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses
to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this.

There's plenty of cheap programmers on ebay last time I looked.


Thanks for the clue. I should have looked there first. That's where I bought the
128k x 8 SRAMS I was looking for a short time ago.

"Bob F" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Bob F wrote:

"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:39:56 -0800, "Bob F" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

I need to get a few 80C51's programmed with a monitor program for my home
control system. I finaly found my backup and it works, but that leaves me
with
no backup chip.

Does anyone know where I could get my unprogrammed chips (PLCC) programmed
in
the Seattle area? Or, where I can buy them with programming included? Or,
if
you
have a programmer, and could help me out, that would be perfect.

Do you have an 80C51 CPU or a CPU with a different number but in that
same family? AFAIK, an 80C51 was a mask ROMed version of the 80C31. I
know that later devices used OTPROM or EPROM or flash, but AFAIK they
had distinguishing part numbers, eg 87C51 or 89C51.

You got me. The chip is an Intel 87C51FA-1 which does contain 8K onetime
EPROM.
I had labeled the origional as 80C51, and had to dig out my reading glasses
to
check the unprogrammed spares. Thanks for catching this.

There's plenty of cheap programmers on ebay last time I looked.


Thanks for the clue. I should have looked there first. That's where I bought
the 128k x 8 SRAMS I was looking for a short time ago.


I just ordered one from McuMall via ebay. $32 + $10 shipping + $15 for the 87C51
adapter.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEWEST-Willem-EP...1%7C294%3 A50

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/stor...idProduct=3132

"Bob F" wrote in message
There's plenty of cheap programmers on ebay last time I looked.


Thanks for the clue. I should have looked there first. That's where I bought
the 128k x 8 SRAMS I was looking for a short time ago.


I just ordered one from McuMall via ebay. $32 + $10 shipping + $15 for the
87C51 adapter.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEWEST-Willem-EP...1%7C294%3 A50

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/stor...idProduct=3132



It arrived 2 days after I ordered it. Good fast standard delivery for a
reasonable cost. Thanks everyone for the help.