If anyone happens to have the schematic, values, ohms and watts, of R801 and
R802 , for the 24V rail would be nice.

Protection circuit relay fails to click over, because no 24V rail.
I was told someone has previously had a look. R801 and R802 are droppers in
series from the 44V main rail down to a 24V rail TO220 pass transistor.
R801 looks genuine 1R 1/2W, but R802 has the wrong lead bending (none) and
different colour banding structure to other Rs on board and measures 4.7K,
1/3W which makes no sense and just a couple of volts at the pass transistor.

Replacing 4.7K with 220R the 24V relay clicks over etc
Dropped voltage at the 2SC4883 is 32V for first few seconds then drops to
24.8V on big relay activation. So about 1.8W dropped over "R802"
"24V" rail drops from 23.2V to 22.8V

Going down to 110R then 37.1V to 32.8V and "24V" from 23.7V to 23.6V. About
1.1W dropped over "R802"

Assuming the original was yellow green something what was the likely value
resistance and wattage of presumably fusible resistor in series with the 1
ohm ? 0.47R, 4.7R, 47R ?
A lot of the red and orange colour bands on other resistors have faded to
brown and silver/gold bands have faded to feint


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Replaced it with a 1W 47R in series with a 200mA fuse. 24V rail is 24.1V
with or without the large relay being powered and about 5V over the 47R.


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"N Cook" wrote in message
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If anyone happens to have the schematic, values, ohms and watts, of R801 and
R802 , for the 24V rail would be nice.

R801:- 1 ohm 1/2W. R802:- 47 ohm

Colin

Colin Horsley wrote in message
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"N Cook" wrote in message
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If anyone happens to have the schematic, values, ohms and watts, of R801
and
R802 , for the 24V rail would be nice.

R801:- 1 ohm 1/2W. R802:- 47 ohm

Colin





If your source shows the wattage It probably has 801 as 1 watt and 802 as
0.5W wheras it makes more sense to be the other way round , 1R of .5W and
47R of 1W, apart from seriesing 1 and 47 ohm.

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100mA for one 24V large relay , 2 small 24V relays plus some circuitry seems
reasonable. The heating of the, heatsink-less, pass transistor is the same
as the one for the -18V supply so again seems reasonable current.
So 0.5W dissipated in a 0.5W resistor is questionable. Hopefully a 200mA
fuse and larger 47R makes more sense.

Looking on the www it seems to be a recurring problem for this otherwise
respected model


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"N_Cook" wrote in message
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Colin Horsley wrote in message
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"N Cook" wrote in message
...
If anyone happens to have the schematic, values, ohms and watts, of R801
and
R802 , for the 24V rail would be nice.

R801:- 1 ohm 1/2W. R802:- 47 ohm

Colin

If your source shows the wattage It probably has 801 as 1 watt and 802 as
0.5W wheras it makes more sense to be the other way round , 1R of .5W and
47R of 1W, apart from seriesing 1 and 47 ohm.

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R801 is the same as R803. R802 is the same as R804.
I sent you direct a copy of that part of the circuit.

Colin