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[email protected] September 16th 08 01:10 AM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 
I have a Viewsonic 17, model 1782, Chassis series 17HV2, computer
monitor - made by Matsu****a 1994.
Was working fine - cut it off, transported to office - carefully!
Turned on - power LED came on for about 1 sec then faded off.
When it goes off, there is a sound like the degaussing coil
energizing. I pulled that connection and it does the same thing.

Seems like there is a load on one of the rails causing the whole
switcher to shut down. All caps (that I can see without removing the
main PCB) look OK - no buldging. Nothing smoking, smelling, or
burning.

I have a schematic for a 17G but I can't find the power LED on it.
Some connector designations match - like the degaussing coil
connector. So it is probably not exactly a 1782.

Any experience or how to troubleshoot hints??

thanks

bill


[email protected] September 16th 08 05:43 AM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 

Check for bent pins on the video connector. Check that the
signal from your computer is not out of range for the monitor.
The monitor should behave exactly like you described if it's not
receiving a signal from the computer or is disconnected. Some
may come on for a few seconds to show "NO signal" message then
turn off. Aside from that, if you are hearing the degause coil
fire up, chances are that you could have a problem in the flyback
circuit or the high B+ on the power supply. Parts don't have to
buldge, explode or smell to be bad.. You'll need a meter to check
parts and voltages..... Shorted HOT, shorted diodes, bad caps...
both in the main PS and flyback PS. And, maybe if you have a scope or
Freq counter, you could check that the horizontal and vertical signals
are making it to their respective circuits... just incase the video
cable is bad. If this monitor is a monitor that is on a good amount of time,
then I would pay attention to caps in the ps('s).

The schematic will be a general schematic for that series of chassis...
not the monitor. So, there will be some items on it that's not
included in your monitor that is a design for other chassis... however, the
power indictor should definitely be shown... Follow the low B+... it
should be there..... but, I don't think the power indicator will be the
problem.


I have a Viewsonic 17, model 1782, Chassis series 17HV2, computer
monitor - made by Matsu****a 1994.
was working fine - cut it off, transported to office - carefully!
Turned on - power LED came on for about 1 sec then faded off.
When it goes off, there is a sound like the degaussing coil
energizing. I pulled that connection and it does the same thing.
I have a schematic for a 17G but I can't find the power LED on it.
Some connector designations match - like the degaussing coil
connector. So it is probably not exactly a 1782.
Any experience or how to troubleshoot hints??





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[email protected] September 16th 08 02:58 PM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 


Thanks SC - it is definitely internal to the monitor.
I guess I'll have to start by trying to figure out how to disconnect
loads.
I was looking for the feed to the LED to see if I could eliminate some
B+ lines. It is probably the 5V, but I thought finding it might give
me a clue. I was thinking the 175V since the higher voltages are
probably the last ones to come up. I don't know where else that goes
but it does feed the degaussing crt. thru a couple of triacs.
Strange implementation.
It has to set a while, or if I read resistance on the power plug it
may discharge something, so that the next time I power on the LED
comes on for a sec. Otherwise it does not come on everytime I power
on.

I guess the first thing to pull is the HOT.

thanks again

Check for bent pins on the video connector. Check that the
signal from your computer is not out of range for the monitor.
The monitor should behave exactly like you described if it's not
receiving a signal from the computer or is disconnected. Some
may come on for a few seconds to show "NO signal" message then
turn off. Aside from that, if you are hearing the degause coil
fire up, chances are that you could have a problem in the flyback
circuit or the high B+ on the power supply. Parts don't have to
buldge, explode or smell to be bad.. You'll need a meter to check
parts and voltages..... Shorted HOT, shorted diodes, bad caps...
both in the main PS and flyback PS. And, maybe if you have a scope or
Freq counter, you could check that the horizontal and vertical signals
are making it to their respective circuits... just incase the video
cable is bad. If this monitor is a monitor that is on a good amount of time,
then I would pay attention to caps in the ps('s).

The schematic will be a general schematic for that series of chassis...
not the monitor. So, there will be some items on it that's not
included in your monitor that is a design for other chassis... however, the
power indictor should definitely be shown... Follow the low B+... it
should be there..... but, I don't think the power indicator will be the
problem.


I have a Viewsonic 17, model 1782, Chassis series 17HV2, computer
monitor - made by Matsu****a 1994.
was working fine - cut it off, transported to office - carefully!
Turned on - power LED came on for about 1 sec then faded off.
When it goes off, there is a sound like the degaussing coil
energizing. I pulled that connection and it does the same thing.
I have a schematic for a 17G but I can't find the power LED on it.
Some connector designations match - like the degaussing coil
connector. So it is probably not exactly a 1782.
Any experience or how to troubleshoot hints??


Anon[_4_] September 16th 08 04:02 PM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 

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I have a Viewsonic 17, model 1782, Chassis series 17HV2, computer
monitor - made by Matsu****a 1994.
Was working fine - cut it off, transported to office - carefully!
Turned on - power LED came on for about 1 sec then faded off.
When it goes off, there is a sound like the degaussing coil
energizing. I pulled that connection and it does the same thing.

Seems like there is a load on one of the rails causing the whole
switcher to shut down. All caps (that I can see without removing the
main PCB) look OK - no buldging. Nothing smoking, smelling, or
burning.

I have a schematic for a 17G but I can't find the power LED on it.
Some connector designations match - like the degaussing coil
connector. So it is probably not exactly a 1782.

Any experience or how to troubleshoot hints??

thanks

bill


Bill,

Something to consider - unsupported refresh rates or resolutions can result
in the symptom described. Whenever changing out different spec monitors,
change the display to the most basic, VGA 640x480, before disconnecting the
old monitor.

FWIW, my old Viewsonic 17 failed on a number of different resolutions,
starting with the high refresh rates, over the course of two years, before
finally failing completely on any setting.

Scott
in Dunedin, FL



[email protected] September 16th 08 06:59 PM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 
OK, I pulled the HOT heat sink with devices.


A 2SC4288A, I assume is the HOT, is shorted all the way around.

An IRFPF40, which may not be a transistor, is short on what would
normally be base to collector. Open emitter to base. It is an
International Rectifier device (hence IR...).

I know there are components like caps that can blow these out -
anybody have a familiarity with this one?


The unit was working at home with the computer at the resolution that
I have run forever. So it isn't an incompatible issue. The monitor
will also take just ablut anything the adapter can give it.




On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:10:19 GMT, h wrote:

I have a Viewsonic 17, model 1782, Chassis series 17HV2, computer
monitor - made by Matsu****a 1994.
Was working fine - cut it off, transported to office - carefully!
Turned on - power LED came on for about 1 sec then faded off.
When it goes off, there is a sound like the degaussing coil
energizing. I pulled that connection and it does the same thing.

Seems like there is a load on one of the rails causing the whole
switcher to shut down. All caps (that I can see without removing the
main PCB) look OK - no buldging. Nothing smoking, smelling, or
burning.

I have a schematic for a 17G but I can't find the power LED on it.
Some connector designations match - like the degaussing coil
connector. So it is probably not exactly a 1782.

Any experience or how to troubleshoot hints??

thanks

bill


[email protected] September 16th 08 07:19 PM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 
The spec sheet for the IRFPF40 does not indicate the pinout.
It is a "1000V Single N-Channel HEXFET Power MOSFET in a TO-247AC
package"

Is it left to right, 1-2-3 = S-D-G or G-D-S??
the ohms 2-3 is - to + = 100 and + to - = 1k
1-2 either way is infinite.

thx

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:10:19 GMT, h wrote:

I have a Viewsonic 17, model 1782, Chassis series 17HV2, computer
monitor - made by Matsu****a 1994.
Was working fine - cut it off, transported to office - carefully!
Turned on - power LED came on for about 1 sec then faded off.
When it goes off, there is a sound like the degaussing coil
energizing. I pulled that connection and it does the same thing.

Seems like there is a load on one of the rails causing the whole
switcher to shut down. All caps (that I can see without removing the
main PCB) look OK - no buldging. Nothing smoking, smelling, or
burning.

I have a schematic for a 17G but I can't find the power LED on it.
Some connector designations match - like the degaussing coil
connector. So it is probably not exactly a 1782.

Any experience or how to troubleshoot hints??

thanks

bill


William R. Walsh September 20th 08 06:32 AM

Viewsonic 17 power issue
 
Hi!

A 2SC4288A, I assume is the HOT, is shorted all the way around.


An IRFPF40, which may not be a transistor, is short on what would
normally be base to collector.


I know there are components like caps that can blow these out -
anybody have a familiarity with this one?


That is exactly where I'd start. Get those caps out of there and test them,
or just replace them and the bad parts. Then bring the power up carefully,
and I'll bet you're back in business again.

If the monitor had a good picture, it should be worth repairing.

William




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