What's with all the spam and trolling in here lately? There's been an
explosion of it lately, many times more than any other newsgroup I
participate in. Has anyone identified for sure where it's coming from? It's
getting hard to find the real posts in all the noise.

James Sweet wrote:
What's with all the spam and trolling in here lately?

Well, there's the 13 year old at aoie.

This is another part of the puzzle:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:...CAPTCHA+Google

Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO
Like if this is the stuff that interested me it would be much easier to just
turn on the flippin tele and watch Jerry Springer and his dog and pony show!
Pretty sad that ignorance is seemingly giving privilege to disrupt and ruin
what once was a good thing.


"JeffM" wrote in message
...
James Sweet wrote:
What's with all the spam and trolling in here lately?

Well, there's the 13 year old at aoie.

This is another part of the puzzle:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:...CAPTCHA+Google

AJ wrote:

Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO
Like if this is the stuff that interested me it would be much easier to just
turn on the flippin tele and watch Jerry Springer and his dog and pony show!
Pretty sad that ignorance is seemingly giving privilege to disrupt and ruin
what once was a good thing.


Install News Proxy and filter out everything from Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html tells you how.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

AJ wrote:

Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO
Like if this is the stuff that interested me it would be much easier to
just
turn on the flippin tele and watch Jerry Springer and his dog and pony
show!
Pretty sad that ignorance is seemingly giving privilege to disrupt and
ruin
what once was a good thing.


Install News Proxy and filter out everything from Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html tells you how.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Maybe with enough complaints Google will do something about it. Wishful
thinking I know.

James Sweet wrote:

Maybe with enough complaints Google will do something about it. Wishful
thinking I know.


Google will lose ad revenue if the fix their USENET mess, and money
is the only reason they bought the old Deja archives.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:58:40 +0000, James Sweet wrote:


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

AJ wrote:

Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO
Like if this is the stuff that interested me it would be much easier to
just
turn on the flippin tele and watch Jerry Springer and his dog and pony
show!
Pretty sad that ignorance is seemingly giving privilege to disrupt and
ruin
what once was a good thing.


Install News Proxy and filter out everything from Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html tells you how.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop
Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Maybe with enough complaints Google will do something about it. Wishful
thinking I know.

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


I don't think it has any usenet filtering at all. I installed NewsProxy and
will give that a try.

James Sweet wrote:
"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:58:40 +0000, James Sweet wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
AJ wrote:
Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO
Like if this is the stuff that interested me it would be much easier to
just
turn on the flippin tele and watch Jerry Springer and his dog and pony
show!
Pretty sad that ignorance is seemingly giving privilege to disrupt and
ruin
what once was a good thing.

Install News Proxy and filter out everything from Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html tells you how.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop
Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Maybe with enough complaints Google will do something about it. Wishful
thinking I know.
Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


I don't think it has any usenet filtering at all. I installed NewsProxy and
will give that a try.


It's been a while since I used OE, but it always did have filtering.
IIRC, it was in the 'tools' section, but might have been 'message'.

Your better off to get away from M$ whenever you can, anyway.

jak

It's been a while since I used OE, but it always did have filtering. IIRC,
it was in the 'tools' section, but might have been 'message'.


I'll look around, it's been a while since I've tried.

Your better off to get away from M$ whenever you can, anyway.



Why? I like Outlook, I've tried every free program I've found and so far
none of them fit me quite as well. I'm no fanboy, but I don't subscribe to
the "everything MS is evil" mentality. I worked there for years, it was
enjoyable, I know enough people that I can get their products at company
store prices which makes it very competetive. Whoever is on top will be
widely hated, I can see it coming to Google already.

Per James Sweet:
Has anyone identified for sure where it's coming from? It's
getting hard to find the real posts in all the noise.

The Linux group is similarly afflicted, as is sci.med.
--
PeteCresswell

"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:MKgCj.8920$e52.736@trndny01...


It's been a while since I used OE, but it always did have filtering.
IIRC, it was in the 'tools' section, but might have been 'message'.


I'll look around, it's been a while since I've tried.

Your better off to get away from M$ whenever you can, anyway.



Why? I like Outlook, I've tried every free program I've found and so far
none of them fit me quite as well. I'm no fanboy, but I don't subscribe to
the "everything MS is evil" mentality. I worked there for years, it was
enjoyable, I know enough people that I can get their products at company
store prices which makes it very competetive. Whoever is on top will be
widely hated, I can see it coming to Google already.


Ahhh.. The feeling of relif.. I just applied a filter to remove any messages
with @gmail.com from the group in OE. 6. Just go to Tools Message Rules
News Then you can probably figure out the rest.

Mike

Ahhh.. The feeling of relif.. I just applied a filter to remove any
messages with @gmail.com from the group in OE. 6. Just go to Tools
Message Rules News Then you can probably figure out the rest.




Yeah I just found that too, much better. I tried NewsProxy and had no luck
with it, set it up according to the instructions yet it still wouldn't
filter. Built in feature is much more convenient than an external program
anyway.

"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:mBhCj.8243$Zo3.3658@trndny05...


Ahhh.. The feeling of relif.. I just applied a filter to remove any
messages with @gmail.com from the group in OE. 6. Just go to Tools
Message Rules News Then you can probably figure out the rest.




Yeah I just found that too, much better. I tried NewsProxy and had no luck
with it, set it up according to the instructions yet it still wouldn't
filter. Built in feature is much more convenient than an external program
anyway.


Too bad there isn't somewhere to filter by organization... I'd filter
everything from Google..

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.




I couldn't make it work. So far OE seems to be doing the trick, it got rid
of the vast majority of the spam I was seeing. I might have to give one of
the proxies another shot when the spammers figure that out.

James Sweet wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.



I couldn't make it work. So far OE seems to be doing the trick, it got rid
of the vast majority of the spam I was seeing. I might have to give one of
the proxies another shot when the spammers figure that out.


I am using Newsproxy to filter everything from aioe.org right now.
You have to create the nfilter.dat file. Every active filter has to
start with an * followed by a space. No blank lines in the filter list.

To create your filters open Newsproxy and select edit/filters. Type
in and save the filter information, then stop the program, and start it
to let it read the list of filters.

Edit/configure, then 'network' s where you enter the news server
name. Add localhost as a new newsserver to OE, or whatever newsreader
you are using. Subscribe to whatever newsgroups need filtered, and
enjoy.

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp...ms/nps-124.zip is a zipped
package of the latest News Proxy, version 1.2.4

--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:%mgCj.10594$iD2.2328@trndny09...

"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:58:40 +0000, James Sweet wrote:


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

AJ wrote:

Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics
Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO
Like if this is the stuff that interested me it would be much easier
to
just
turn on the flippin tele and watch Jerry Springer and his dog and pony
show!
Pretty sad that ignorance is seemingly giving privilege to disrupt and
ruin
what once was a good thing.


Install News Proxy and filter out everything from Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html tells you how.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file * drop
Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


Maybe with enough complaints Google will do something about it. Wishful
thinking I know.

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


I don't think it has any usenet filtering at all. I installed NewsProxy
and will give that a try.


I think that in OE "Tools" you can set it in the "Blocked Senders" list. I'm
giving that a try now.

Arfa

"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:MKgCj.8920$e52.736@trndny01...


It's been a while since I used OE, but it always did have filtering.
IIRC, it was in the 'tools' section, but might have been 'message'.


I'll look around, it's been a while since I've tried.

Your better off to get away from M$ whenever you can, anyway.



Why? I like Outlook, I've tried every free program I've found and so far
none of them fit me quite as well. I'm no fanboy, but I don't subscribe to
the "everything MS is evil" mentality. I worked there for years, it was
enjoyable, I know enough people that I can get their products at company
store prices which makes it very competetive. Whoever is on top will be
widely hated, I can see it coming to Google already.


I too like OE, but I also use X-News as a second Usenet client. Have you
tried that one ? It really is very good.

Arfa

"Michael Kennedy" wrote in message
. ..

"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:mBhCj.8243$Zo3.3658@trndny05...


Ahhh.. The feeling of relif.. I just applied a filter to remove any
messages with @gmail.com from the group in OE. 6. Just go to Tools
Message Rules News Then you can probably figure out the rest.




Yeah I just found that too, much better. I tried NewsProxy and had no
luck with it, set it up according to the instructions yet it still
wouldn't filter. Built in feature is much more convenient than an
external program anyway.


Too bad there isn't somewhere to filter by organization... I'd filter
everything from Google..


I think that you can just put "google.com" in the 'Blocked Senders' field in
tools.

Arfa

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.



In OE, you can set up a rule tools - message rules - news and just put in
the domain name as "from" and "delete" as the action. I just did this for
"gmail.com" and it removed the lot.

So you should be able to do the same for "google.com"

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.



In OE, you can set up a rule tools - message rules - news and just put in
the domain name as "from" and "delete" as the action. I just did this for
"gmail.com" and it removed the lot.

So you should be able to do the same for "google.com"

Arfa


That is the host, not the sender.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:58:40 GMT, James Sweet wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
AJ wrote:

Notice that absolutely NONE of it is relevant to Electronics Servicing.
Maybe this N/G need as good, qualified, mentor and controller. IMHO

Install News Proxy and filter out everything from Google Groups.
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html tells you how.

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Maybe with enough complaints Google will do something about it.
Wishful thinking I know.

Wishful thinking, indeed.
One of the symptoms of insanity is repeating an action over and over
again whilst expecting different, positive results.

I too like OE, but I also use X-News as a second Usenet client. Have you
tried that one ? It really is very good.



I don't recall if I have or not. I use Outlook for my email since I have an
ancient hotmail account that everyone knows and OE works with that. I've
just become used to having email and news in one tidy package.

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Arfa Daily wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.



In OE, you can set up a rule tools - message rules - news and just put
in
the domain name as "from" and "delete" as the action. I just did this for
"gmail.com" and it removed the lot.

So you should be able to do the same for "google.com"

Arfa


That is the host, not the sender.


Strictly speaking Michael, that's true, but OE never-the-less sees that host
name as a 'sender' that is a valid parameter for inclusion in the blocking
filter. Trust me, I've set the rules up on my OE to do just this in the last
few minutes. If you put "google.com" into the "from" field of a "news"
message rule and then apply that rule, it *will* remove anything from that
'sending' host ...

You can also set multiple 'froms' in the same rule, as well as multiple
'subject' or 'from' field keywords. Just make sure that you have it set such
that each keyword or 'from', is an "or", otherwise it will try to apply all
blocking parameters at once to each header, and it will never get a match.

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:

Strictly speaking Michael, that's true, but OE never-the-less sees that host
name as a 'sender' that is a valid parameter for inclusion in the blocking
filter. Trust me, I've set the rules up on my OE to do just this in the last
few minutes. If you put "google.com" into the "from" field of a "news"
message rule and then apply that rule, it *will* remove anything from that
'sending' host ...

You can also set multiple 'froms' in the same rule, as well as multiple
'subject' or 'from' field keywords. Just make sure that you have it set such
that each keyword or 'from', is an "or", otherwise it will try to apply all
blocking parameters at once to each header, and it will never get a match.

Arfa


Ok. I gave up on OE over 10 years ago and have used the mail and
news client in Netscape 4.78 since then.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

James Sweet wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.



I couldn't make it work. So far OE seems to be doing the trick, it got
rid
of the vast majority of the spam I was seeing. I might have to give one
of
the proxies another shot when the spammers figure that out.


I am using Newsproxy to filter everything from aioe.org right now.
You have to create the nfilter.dat file. Every active filter has to
start with an * followed by a space. No blank lines in the filter list.

To create your filters open Newsproxy and select edit/filters. Type
in and save the filter information, then stop the program, and start it
to let it read the list of filters.

Edit/configure, then 'network' s where you enter the news server
name. Add localhost as a new newsserver to OE, or whatever newsreader
you are using. Subscribe to whatever newsgroups need filtered, and
enjoy.

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp...ms/nps-124.zip is a zipped
package of the latest News Proxy, version 1.2.4

--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html


There we go, got it working, wow, what an improvement, no more china
wholesale scam, no more forger kiddies, much better. Thanks!

James Sweet wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

James Sweet wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...

Meat Plow wrote:

Just filter anything from google. OE will do that no?


No. Only email addresses. Newsproxy will get rid of 'anything'
posted through google.



I couldn't make it work. So far OE seems to be doing the trick, it got
rid
of the vast majority of the spam I was seeing. I might have to give one
of
the proxies another shot when the spammers figure that out.


I am using Newsproxy to filter everything from aioe.org right now.
You have to create the nfilter.dat file. Every active filter has to
start with an * followed by a space. No blank lines in the filter list.

To create your filters open Newsproxy and select edit/filters. Type
in and save the filter information, then stop the program, and start it
to let it read the list of filters.

Edit/configure, then 'network' s where you enter the news server
name. Add localhost as a new newsserver to OE, or whatever newsreader
you are using. Subscribe to whatever newsgroups need filtered, and
enjoy.

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp...ms/nps-124.zip is a zipped
package of the latest News Proxy, version 1.2.4

--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

There we go, got it working, wow, what an improvement, no more china
wholesale scam, no more forger kiddies, much better. Thanks!


You're welcome. Just help anyone else who you see struggling with
it.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html

Meat Plow wrote:

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:09:56 -0400, Michael Kennedy wrote:


"James Sweet" wrote in message
news:mBhCj.8243$Zo3.3658@trndny05...


Ahhh.. The feeling of relif.. I just applied a filter to remove any
messages with @gmail.com from the group in OE. 6. Just go to Tools
Message Rules News Then you can probably figure out the rest.




Yeah I just found that too, much better. I tried NewsProxy and had no
luck with it, set it up according to the instructions yet it still
wouldn't filter. Built in feature is much more convenient than an
external program anyway.


Too bad there isn't somewhere to filter by organization... I'd filter
everything from Google..

What about NFilter?


nfilter is now called News Proxy. nfilter didn't work with XP, News
Proxy does.


--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists

Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.

http://improve-usenet.org/index.html