Question about caller ID
 

I realize this is somewhat removed from the topic of the newsgroup, but
I searched for another group and found none specific to my question
type. Since this group is filled with knowledgeable people in
electronics, I thought I might find an answer.

I have several cordless phones in my home hooked to my single phone
line. They are both different models by the same manufacturer (AT&T and
GE), and of course different brands. My question is why does the data
listed for Caller ID differ from phone to phone? One will list the name
of the person while another might only list the town along with the
phone number. I thought the data was supplied by the originating phone
company and therefore would be the same for each phone.

Just curious. Thanks.

Question about caller ID
 

In article ,
Ken wrote:

I realize this is somewhat removed from the topic of the newsgroup, but
I searched for another group and found none specific to my question
type. Since this group is filled with knowledgeable people in
electronics, I thought I might find an answer.

I have several cordless phones in my home hooked to my single phone
line. They are both different models by the same manufacturer (AT&T and
GE), and of course different brands. My question is why does the data
listed for Caller ID differ from phone to phone? One will list the name
of the person while another might only list the town along with the
phone number. I thought the data was supplied by the originating phone
company and therefore would be the same for each phone.

Just curious. Thanks.

I don't have caller ID, but always assumed that the phone would only
display a name if you have that person's name programmed into the
phone's speed dial system. Isn't that the same as a cell phone?

Question about caller ID
 

Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
Ken wrote:

I realize this is somewhat removed from the topic of the newsgroup, but
I searched for another group and found none specific to my question
type. Since this group is filled with knowledgeable people in
electronics, I thought I might find an answer.

I have several cordless phones in my home hooked to my single phone
line. They are both different models by the same manufacturer (AT&T and
GE), and of course different brands. My question is why does the data
listed for Caller ID differ from phone to phone? One will list the name
of the person while another might only list the town along with the
phone number. I thought the data was supplied by the originating phone
company and therefore would be the same for each phone.

Just curious. Thanks.

I don't have caller ID, but always assumed that the phone would only
display a name if you have that person's name programmed into the
phone's speed dial system. Isn't that the same as a cell phone?

No, but I believe that some of the info is generated from within the
phone. Mostly, it's related to lack of info, like unlisted and blocked
ID's, that varies from phone to phone.

Cells vary as well, as to the degree that they display ID info, I believe.

jak

Question about caller ID
 

"Ken" wrote in message
. ..

Why does the Caller ID data differ from phone to phone?
One will list the name of the person while another might
only list the town along with the phone number. I thought
the data was supplied by the originating phone company
and therefore would be the same for each phone.

That's correct -- it is and it should be.

Presumably different manufacturers select different CID items to display.
Check the user manuals -- it might be possible to change what's displayed.

Question about caller ID
 

William Sommerwerck wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message
. ..

Why does the Caller ID data differ from phone to phone?
One will list the name of the person while another might
only list the town along with the phone number. I thought
the data was supplied by the originating phone company
and therefore would be the same for each phone.

That's correct -- it is and it should be.

Presumably different manufacturers select different CID items to display.
Check the user manuals -- it might be possible to change what's displayed.


This appears to be the case, but I see no mention in the user manuals
as to how to select what is displayed. It is a little bizarre that
phones made by the same manufacturer display different data when a call
comes in. Of course they are probably "Contract made" rather than made
by the name of the company on the phone.

Smitty Two seems to be somewhat correct in that at least one of the
phones puts the name for caller ID as it resides in the directory (i.e.
Johnny) in the phone. Others appear to use the listing as it appears in
their phone company customer records (i.e. John Smith).

Question about caller ID
 

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:36:19 -0600, Ken wrote:

William Sommerwerck wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message
. ..

Why does the Caller ID data differ from phone to phone?
One will list the name of the person while another might
only list the town along with the phone number. I thought
the data was supplied by the originating phone company
and therefore would be the same for each phone.

That's correct -- it is and it should be.

Presumably different manufacturers select different CID items to display.
Check the user manuals -- it might be possible to change what's displayed.


This appears to be the case, but I see no mention in the user manuals
as to how to select what is displayed.

Because you can't... The dsigner made that decision for you.

It is a little bizarre that
phones made by the same manufacturer display different data when a call
comes in.

Which means nothing. Possibly designed by different branches of the
same company. Though I am confused since you said one was a GE and the
other was an ATT...

Of course they are probably "Contract made" rather than made
by the name of the company on the phone.

Good guess, that is what i'd think too.


Smitty Two seems to be somewhat correct in that at least one of the
phones puts the name for caller ID as it resides in the directory (i.e.
Johnny) in the phone. Others appear to use the listing as it appears in
their phone company customer records (i.e. John Smith).

Caller ID information varies by provider, country and other factors...

Question about caller ID
 

PeterD wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:36:19 -0600, Ken wrote:

William Sommerwerck wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message
. ..

Why does the Caller ID data differ from phone to phone?
One will list the name of the person while another might
only list the town along with the phone number. I thought
the data was supplied by the originating phone company
and therefore would be the same for each phone.
That's correct -- it is and it should be.

Presumably different manufacturers select different CID items to display.
Check the user manuals -- it might be possible to change what's displayed.


This appears to be the case, but I see no mention in the user manuals
as to how to select what is displayed.

Because you can't... The dsigner made that decision for you.

It is a little bizarre that
phones made by the same manufacturer display different data when a call
comes in.

Which means nothing. Possibly designed by different branches of the
same company. Though I am confused since you said one was a GE and the
other was an ATT...

Just to clarify this point. I have two AT&T phones and two GE cordless
phones, each different models.



Of course they are probably "Contract made" rather than made
by the name of the company on the phone.

Good guess, that is what i'd think too.

Smitty Two seems to be somewhat correct in that at least one of the
phones puts the name for caller ID as it resides in the directory (i.e.
Johnny) in the phone. Others appear to use the listing as it appears in
their phone company customer records (i.e. John Smith).

Caller ID information varies by provider, country and other factors...

Question about caller ID
 

I always keep my Bell south (at&t) land line phone Unplugged, except for
when I want to use it.
Nobody here but little doggy www.cattledog.com www.acdca.org and
I.We have some stormy weather going on here right now.That LOUD clap of
thunder scared the pants off of her.
cuhulin

Question about caller ID
 

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:48:36 -0600, Ken wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:36:19 -0600, Ken wrote:

William Sommerwerck wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message
. ..

Why does the Caller ID data differ from phone to phone?
One will list the name of the person while another might
only list the town along with the phone number. I thought
the data was supplied by the originating phone company
and therefore would be the same for each phone.
That's correct -- it is and it should be.

Presumably different manufacturers select different CID items to display.
Check the user manuals -- it might be possible to change what's displayed.


This appears to be the case, but I see no mention in the user manuals
as to how to select what is displayed.

Because you can't... The dsigner made that decision for you.

It is a little bizarre that
phones made by the same manufacturer display different data when a call
comes in.

Which means nothing. Possibly designed by different branches of the
same company. Though I am confused since you said one was a GE and the
other was an ATT...

Just to clarify this point. I have two AT&T phones and two GE cordless
phones, each different models.


Ah, understood now...

Question about caller ID
 

"Smitty Two" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Ken wrote:

I realize this is somewhat removed from the topic of the newsgroup, but
I searched for another group and found none specific to my question
type. Since this group is filled with knowledgeable people in
electronics, I thought I might find an answer.

I have several cordless phones in my home hooked to my single phone
line. They are both different models by the same manufacturer (AT&T and
GE), and of course different brands. My question is why does the data
listed for Caller ID differ from phone to phone? One will list the name
of the person while another might only list the town along with the
phone number. I thought the data was supplied by the originating phone
company and therefore would be the same for each phone.

Just curious. Thanks.

I don't have caller ID, but always assumed that the phone would only
display a name if you have that person's name programmed into the
phone's speed dial system. Isn't that the same as a cell phone?

Caller ID in the UK appears to supply only the caller's number and world
location if appropriate ie nothing on that score if the call comes from
within the UK or "International" if not. If the caller has their number
restricted with the phone company, it comes up "witheld". The only phone
that puts up a name, is the big multifunctional one in the workshop, and
that one only if the caller's name details are programmed into the dial
memory, so that it recognises them. It's high time that legislation was
changed to force cold sales calls to be identified in caller ID, as some of
the companies are getting pretty clever at 'disguising' the number that they
are calling from, so you pick the phone up to take what you think is a
customer call, only to get " Hello sir, my name's Mandy-Lou, and I'm calling
to let you know that your address has been picked to receive a free .... "
at which point the phone goes gently (!) back down.

Arfa

Question about caller ID
 

Arfa Daily wrote:
Caller ID in the UK appears to supply only the caller's number and world
location if appropriate ie nothing on that score if the call comes from
within the UK or "International" if not. If the caller has their number
restricted with the phone company, it comes up "witheld".

The word withheld seems to come from the phone. One phone I have
displays it, the other does not.

The only phone
that puts up a name, is the big multifunctional one in the workshop, and
that one only if the caller's name details are programmed into the dial
memory, so that it recognises them. It's high time that legislation was
changed to force cold sales calls to be identified in caller ID, as some of
the companies are getting pretty clever at 'disguising' the number that they
are calling from, so you pick the phone up to take what you think is a
customer call, only to get " Hello sir, my name's Mandy-Lou, and I'm calling
to let you know that your address has been picked to receive a free .... "
at which point the phone goes gently (!) back down.


Pennsylvania allows customers to select "anonymous call reject"
if you pay the extra money for caller ID. I don't know if any
other place has it, but I sure miss it.

Geoff.


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Question about caller ID
 

In article ,
"Arfa Daily" wrote:

"Smitty Two" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Ken wrote:

I realize this is somewhat removed from the topic of the newsgroup, but
I searched for another group and found none specific to my question
type. Since this group is filled with knowledgeable people in
electronics, I thought I might find an answer.

I have several cordless phones in my home hooked to my single phone
line. They are both different models by the same manufacturer (AT&T and
GE), and of course different brands. My question is why does the data
listed for Caller ID differ from phone to phone? One will list the name
of the person while another might only list the town along with the
phone number. I thought the data was supplied by the originating phone
company and therefore would be the same for each phone.

Just curious. Thanks.

I don't have caller ID, but always assumed that the phone would only
display a name if you have that person's name programmed into the
phone's speed dial system. Isn't that the same as a cell phone?

Caller ID in the UK appears to supply only the caller's number and world
location if appropriate ie nothing on that score if the call comes from
within the UK or "International" if not. If the caller has their number
restricted with the phone company, it comes up "witheld". The only phone
that puts up a name, is the big multifunctional one in the workshop, and
that one only if the caller's name details are programmed into the dial
memory, so that it recognises them. It's high time that legislation was
changed to force cold sales calls to be identified in caller ID, as some of
the companies are getting pretty clever at 'disguising' the number that they
are calling from, so you pick the phone up to take what you think is a
customer call, only to get " Hello sir, my name's Mandy-Lou, and I'm calling
to let you know that your address has been picked to receive a free .... "
at which point the phone goes gently (!) back down.

Arfa

Y'all might think about outlawing telemarketing altogether, as we did a
number of years back. Quite a relief.

Question about caller ID
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
Arfa Daily wrote:
Caller ID in the UK appears to supply only the caller's number and world
location if appropriate ie nothing on that score if the call comes from
within the UK or "International" if not. If the caller has their number
restricted with the phone company, it comes up "witheld".

The word withheld seems to come from the phone. One phone I have
displays it, the other does not.

Well, yes. I'm pretty sure that is the case, and that the phone does it as a
result of reading some flag bit in the data stream that's been set by the
phone company to tell the phone that it's not going to be supplied with
number data.



Pennsylvania allows customers to select "anonymous call reject"
if you pay the extra money for caller ID. I don't know if any
other place has it, but I sure miss it.

Geoff.


You can opt for this feature also in the UK. The trouble is, many of the
shops that I deal with withhold their number legitimately, because they
don't want customers to get hold of that particular number, so by opting to
reject all 'withhelds', you can also end up rejecting calls that you really
do need to take. Some institutions like the police, for instance, also
withhold their number, for obvious reasons. I don't know about where you
are, but here in the UK, cold sales calling has now become such a nuisance,
that sometimes, you can receive 10 or more calls in a day, often carrying on
until 9 or 10 at night. This is presumably after some company that you have
had legitimate dealings with, has sold off your details to an Indian call
centre company. That's why I think that it's high time that people's privacy
was restored, by making cold callers electronically identify themselves, so
that a rejection filter can be set up for them alone, or at least, your
caller ID can identify them, giving you the choice of whether or not you
wish to pick up on the call.

Arfa

Question about caller ID
 

Y'all might think about outlawing telemarketing altogether, as we did a
number of years back. Quite a relief.


Where? That would be great.

We have the do not call list here, but it doesn't apply to political calls
or charities so while it's not quite useless, it leaves much to be desired.

Question about caller ID
 

There is a married Irish woman in Bognor Regis,England, married to that
Irish guy.She has phoned me quite a few times before.I don't know if she
has caller ID though.I am not going to ask her about that.She works at
her home (via an IBM laptop computer WSCC gave her to use) for West
Sussex County Council.
cuhulin

Question about caller ID
 

In article WqJoj.9$k%2.0@trndny09,
"James Sweet" wrote:


Y'all might think about outlawing telemarketing altogether, as we did a
number of years back. Quite a relief.


Where? That would be great.

We have the do not call list here, but it doesn't apply to political calls
or charities so while it's not quite useless, it leaves much to be desired.

Was talking about the U.S. of A. The charities are a pittance compared
to what the telemarketing used to be, and any of them will take you off
their list if you ask.