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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH with P5Kmotherboard.
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep? Best regards, Dima |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH with P5K motherboard.
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:39:42 -0800 (PST), D
wrote: Hello! FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep? Best regards, Dima It might help if you elaborated on what "peep" means. Generally, noise would come from either a failing fan or the magnetics (transformer or inductors). While it seems more likely a different load from the hardware change is putting the magnetics, one of them at a resonant frequency, a change in load on the 12V rail could also cause a change in fan RPM which reveals a bearing problem. I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few minutes then open it and lube the fan. If it is something magnetic the resolution is a bit more complicated, either replacing the noisey part, removing it and soaking it in lacquer/similar, or trying to apply a rubber cement or epoxy like coating while the part is still soldered to the PCB. Finding the noisey part could prove difficult, or at least will require some caution. You can stop the fan by simply sticking a plastic drinking straw into the fan intake area at the center to stop the fan from rotating, but to find other parts it woud require opening the PSU and probing around while it's powered which is something anyone who would need to be told to do so, probably shouldn't be doing for safety reasons. It can be done safely, but poking around in live mains powered power supplies is beyond what the average end user should be doing. If the PSU were still under warranty you might see of you can RMA replace it. |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH with P5K motherboard.
Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem
somwhere. Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of the new mobo??? peter peter "D" wrote in message ... Hello! FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep? Best regards, Dima |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.
On Dec 12, 7:58 pm, kony wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:39:42 -0800 (PST), D wrote: Hello! FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep? Best regards, Dima It might help if you elaborated on what "peep" means. Generally, noise would come from either a failing fan or the magnetics (transformer or inductors). While it seems more likely a different load from the hardware change is putting the magnetics, one of them at a resonant frequency, a change in load on the 12V rail could also cause a change in fan RPM which reveals a bearing problem. I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few minutes then open it and lube the fan. If it is something magnetic the resolution is a bit more complicated, either replacing the noisey part, removing it and soaking it in lacquer/similar, or trying to apply a rubber cement or epoxy like coating while the part is still soldered to the PCB. Finding the noisey part could prove difficult, or at least will require some caution. You can stop the fan by simply sticking a plastic drinking straw into the fan intake area at the center to stop the fan from rotating, but to find other parts it woud require opening the PSU and probing around while it's powered which is something anyone who would need to be told to do so, probably shouldn't be doing for safety reasons. It can be done safely, but poking around in live mains powered power supplies is beyond what the average end user should be doing. If the PSU were still under warranty you might see of you can RMA replace it. Thanks kony for your suggestions! The noise comes from the magnetics (transformer or inductors). It continues even after shutting down Windows sometimes. Best regards, Dima |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.
On Dec 12, 8:10 pm, "peter" wrote:
Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem somwhere. Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of the new mobo??? peter peter"D" wrote in message ... Hello! FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep? Best regards, Dima- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks peter for replying! I meant a whining or creaking by the peeping. Why does www.silentpcreview.com write "most powerful Intel 670 (P4-3.8) processor rig with nVidia 6800GT video card drew ~214W DC from the power supply under full load" on http://www.silentpcreview.com/article292-page4.html for example? Best regards, Dima |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.
On Dec 12, 7:58 pm, kony wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:39:42 -0800 (PST), D wrote: Hello! FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep? Best regards, Dima It might help if you elaborated on what "peep" means. Generally, noise would come from either a failing fan or the magnetics (transformer or inductors). While it seems more likely a different load from the hardware change is putting the magnetics, one of them at a resonant frequency, a change in load on the 12V rail could also cause a change in fan RPM which reveals a bearing problem. I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few minutes then open it and lube the fan. If it is something magnetic the resolution is a bit more complicated, either replacing the noisey part, removing it and soaking it in lacquer/similar, or trying to apply a rubber cement or epoxy like coating while the part is still soldered to the PCB. Finding the noisey part could prove difficult, or at least will require some caution. You can stop the fan by simply sticking a plastic drinking straw into the fan intake area at the center to stop the fan from rotating, but to find other parts it woud require opening the PSU and probing around while it's powered which is something anyone who would need to be told to do so, probably shouldn't be doing for safety reasons. It can be done safely, but poking around in live mains powered power supplies is beyond what the average end user should be doing. If the PSU were still under warranty you might see of you can RMA replace it. My PSU uses Protechnic, not Yate Loon fan. |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.
peter wrote: Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem somwhere. Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of the new mobo??? Peep, not beep. The main transformer or an output choke may peep if the load is just right, usually on the high side. |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH with P5K motherboard.
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:27:42 -0800 (PST), D
wrote: I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few minutes then open it and lube the fan. My PSU uses Protechnic, not Yate Loon fan. Ok, but did you determine where the noise is coming from? I don't know if the Protechnic fan is sleeve bearing or not, but it is still a possible suspect. |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.
On Dec 13, 12:12 pm, wrote:
peter wrote: Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem somwhere. Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of the new mobo??? Peep, not beep. The main transformer or an output choke may peep if the load is just right, usually on the high side. Thanks for replying! I replaced FSP350-60GLN PSU with Zalman ZM460B-ASP. The Zalman is much quieter! Regards, Dima |
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FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.
On Dec 14, 4:46 am, kony wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:27:42 -0800 (PST), D wrote: I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few minutes then open it and lube the fan. My PSU uses Protechnic, not Yate Loon fan. Ok, but did you determine where the noise is coming from? I don't know if the Protechnic fan is sleeve bearing or not, but it is still a possible suspect. Yes, I determined the peeping is coming from the electric circuit, not from the fan. The fan makes a different noise from its vibration. I replaced the FSP350-60GLN with ZALMAN ZM460B-ASP. The Zalman is much quieter. Regards, Dima |
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