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dsn3775 June 17th 07 08:10 PM

UPS constantly charging
 
hi,
my UPS-1400W sine wave inverter is not showing fully charged for past
week despite continuous charging.
it has LED indicators for showing
1.low battery
2.inverter on(power mains off)
3. battery charging(mains on)(blinks when charging and stays lighted
when fully charged)
4.inverter off
5.fuse blown
6.main on(ac input supply on)
for the past one week despite no power cut the UPS is indicating
"battery charging".
pls tell me what the problem could be.?
thanks,
deepak3775


James Sweet June 17th 07 09:01 PM

UPS constantly charging
 

"dsn3775" wrote in message
ups.com...
hi,
my UPS-1400W sine wave inverter is not showing fully charged for past
week despite continuous charging.
it has LED indicators for showing
1.low battery
2.inverter on(power mains off)
3. battery charging(mains on)(blinks when charging and stays lighted
when fully charged)
4.inverter off
5.fuse blown
6.main on(ac input supply on)
for the past one week despite no power cut the UPS is indicating
"battery charging".
pls tell me what the problem could be.?
thanks,
deepak3775



Bad battery? How old is it?



w9gb June 17th 07 11:09 PM

UPS constantly charging
 
"dsn3775" wrote in message
ups.com...
hi,
my UPS-1400W sine wave inverter is not showing fully charged for past
week despite continuous charging.
it has LED indicators for showing
1.low battery
2.inverter on(power mains off)
3. battery charging(mains on)(blinks when charging and stays lighted
when fully charged)
4.inverter off
5.fuse blown
6.main on(ac input supply on)
for the past one week despite no power cut the UPS is indicating
"battery charging".
pls tell me what the problem could be.?
thanks,
deepak3775


After about 3 years -- most lead-acid batteries in these units begin to
fail.

APC UPS -- Failures points (in order to frequency)

1. Batteries
2. Charger circuitry
3. Inverter circuitry

gb



JANA June 18th 07 05:08 AM

UPS constantly charging
 
It's time to change the batteries. We have a number of UPS's at our
location. The battery life averages about 3 years.

--

JANA
_____


"dsn3775" wrote in message
ups.com...
hi,
my UPS-1400W sine wave inverter is not showing fully charged for past
week despite continuous charging.
it has LED indicators for showing
1.low battery
2.inverter on(power mains off)
3. battery charging(mains on)(blinks when charging and stays lighted
when fully charged)
4.inverter off
5.fuse blown
6.main on(ac input supply on)
for the past one week despite no power cut the UPS is indicating
"battery charging".
pls tell me what the problem could be.?
thanks,
deepak3775



dsn3775 June 18th 07 02:57 PM

UPS constantly charging
 
there are 2 batteries.they r 1yr old.they hav become very hot .the
water level in batteries is ok
but the r giving 5hrs(normal) backup
deepak


JANA June 19th 07 07:29 AM

UPS constantly charging
 
Your description does not constitute that the batteries are good. If they
have become very hot, then they are most likely damaged. You will have to
try new batteries to test.

--

JANA
_____


"dsn3775" wrote in message
oups.com...
there are 2 batteries.they r 1yr old.they hav become very hot .the
water level in batteries is ok
but the r giving 5hrs(normal) backup
deepak



Steve Wolfe June 19th 07 08:16 AM

UPS constantly charging
 
Your description does not constitute that the batteries are good. If they
have become very hot, then they are most likely damaged. You will have to
try new batteries to test.


If they're that hot, I would think that the charging circuit is
overcharging them. Before spending the money on new batteries, I'd measure
the voltage presented by the charging circuit while the batteries are
connected, then disconnect the batteries and measure them each individually.

If the charger was giving them more than a float voltage (27.8, within
about .1), but both batteries were at (or above) 13.9 individually, then the
charging circuit has either lost regulation on the float-charging stage, or
is failing to switch from a bulk to a float stage.

On the other hand, if one (or both) of the batteries measure significantly
below 13.9, you have one or more shorted cells. If the charger was still
presenting the 27.8-ish volts to them, then it hasn't recognized the shorted
cells. The charger *might* be bad, or it may have just been battery
failure.

Those voltages are for dual 12V batteries in series. Half them if your
unit uses 6V batteries.

As for a 3-year rule on SLAs, if they're properly cared for, that's the
*minimum* you should get. We replace our batteries at 3 years just as a
precaution, but I have yet to see one fail before that time - *if* it's been
properly cared for. Occasionally, someone will unplug their UPS, ignore the
beeping until the battery is completely dead, and let the UPS sit like that
for a month or two. That's not the battery's fault, it's the user's fault.
The batteries that have failed on us have all been in units that were 4+
years old, often 5-6 years.

steve



dsn3775 June 20th 07 07:12 PM

UPS constantly charging
 
On Jun 19, 12:16 am, "Steve Wolfe" wrote:
Your description does not constitute that the batteries are good. If they
have become very hot, then they are most likely damaged. You will have to
try new batteries to test.


If they're that hot, I would think that the charging circuit is
overcharging them. Before spending the money on new batteries, I'd measure
the voltage presented by the charging circuit while the batteries are
connected, then disconnect the batteries and measure them each individually.

If the charger was giving them more than a float voltage (27.8, within
about .1), but both batteries were at (or above) 13.9 individually, then the
charging circuit has either lost regulation on the float-charging stage, or
is failing to switch from a bulk to a float stage.

On the other hand, if one (or both) of the batteries measure significantly
below 13.9, you have one or more shorted cells. If the charger was still
presenting the 27.8-ish volts to them, then it hasn't recognized the shorted
cells. The charger *might* be bad, or it may have just been battery
failure.

Those voltages are for dual 12V batteries in series. Half them if your
unit uses 6V batteries.

As for a 3-year rule on SLAs, if they're properly cared for, that's the
*minimum* you should get. We replace our batteries at 3 years just as a
precaution, but I have yet to see one fail before that time - *if* it's been
properly cared for. Occasionally, someone will unplug their UPS, ignore the
beeping until the battery is completely dead, and let the UPS sit like that
for a month or two. That's not the battery's fault, it's the user's fault.
The batteries that have failed on us have all been in units that were 4+
years old, often 5-6 years.

steve


thanks for clarification,
deepak.



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