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todd June 6th 07 01:05 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged on
the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section of
the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads of
this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead transistor
labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a pair and has a
slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been unable to identify
or cross-reference this transistor, and would appreciate any help in
identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another pair of transistors.
Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


Jim Yanik June 6th 07 02:59 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
todd wrote in
oups.com:

Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged on
the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section of
the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads of
this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead transistor
labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a pair and has a
slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been unable to identify
or cross-reference this transistor, and would appreciate any help in
identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another pair of transistors.
Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR



All I could find online was the US military PN for that part; 6625-01-275-
4766

The TEK PN is;151-0846-00
8641 is the mfg.date code.(your scope was probably built in 1986-87.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

[email protected] June 7th 07 08:07 AM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
On Jun 6, 6:59 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
todd wrote groups.com:

Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged on
the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section of
the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads of
this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead transistor
labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a pair and has a
slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been unable to identify
or cross-reference this transistor, and would appreciate any help in
identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another pair of transistors.
Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


All I could find online was the US military PN for that part; 6625-01-275-
4766

The TEK PN is;151-0846-00
8641 is the mfg.date code.(your scope was probably built in 1986-87.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


Here is a site advertising TEK spares (including Hard to find). This
may help you further.

http://www.sphere.bc.ca/

Regards,

Ravi.


Jim Yanik June 7th 07 04:22 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
wrote in
oups.com:

On Jun 6, 6:59 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
todd wrote
groups.com:

Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged
on the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section
of the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads
of this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead
transistor labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a
pair and has a slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been
unable to identify or cross-reference this transistor, and would
appreciate any help in identifying (and hopefully obtaining)
another pair of transistors. Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


All I could find online was the US military PN for that part;
6625-01-275- 4766

The TEK PN is;151-0846-00
8641 is the mfg.date code.(your scope was probably built in 1986-87.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


Here is a site advertising TEK spares (including Hard to find). This
may help you further.

http://www.sphere.bc.ca/

Regards,

Ravi.



I already checked it,no luck.
I suspect IF you could reach a TEK service person,you could get a cross
reference for it.They have all that data on the company intranet.I wish I
could have retained my access to it!

Best chances of success would be the DC field office.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

msg June 8th 07 03:17 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
todd wrote:

Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged on
the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section of
the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads of
this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead transistor
labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a pair and has a
slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been unable to identify
or cross-reference this transistor, and would appreciate any help in
identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another pair of transistors.
Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


I got this hit for Tek semiconductors:

http://www.electromechanicalparts.co...TEKTRONIX.html

Also, I checked a Tek IC reference I had but of course discretes are
absent.

If you cannot locate real spares and if the other transistor of the
pair is good, determine its characteristics (curve tracer, test bench
setups, etc.) and shop for equivalents.

Regards,

Michael

Steve Sousa June 8th 07 07:03 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 

"todd" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged on
the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section of
the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads of
this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead transistor
labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a pair and has a
slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been unable to identify
or cross-reference this transistor, and would appreciate any help in
identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another pair of transistors.
Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


-Go to http:\\groups.yahoo.com
-register
-subscribe the "TekScopes" group (copy and paste the name, there's a
group whith a similar name)
-when you can access it a search for Mr. Yanik's ref: 151-0846-00 finds
several threads.

some quotes:

" the Tek cross ref says these are 2N3866A NPN RF power transistors in a
TO-5/39 can, but this part does not work when installed in the scopes,
and the manuals say there is trouble with any transistor that does not
have the base connected to the case."

" These were a custom Tek mod of the standard part.
If you don't use the correct part you will have all sorts of problems
with
frequency response and oscillations as you move your hand or the cover
near
these parts (been there - done that)."


So it looks like you have to find an original...
Best Regards

Steve Sousa



James Sweet June 8th 07 07:41 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 

"Steve Sousa" wrote in message
anews.com...

"todd" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged on
the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section of
the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads of
this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead transistor
labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a pair and has a
slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been unable to identify
or cross-reference this transistor, and would appreciate any help in
identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another pair of transistors.
Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


-Go to http:\\groups.yahoo.com
-register
-subscribe the "TekScopes" group (copy and paste the name, there's a group
whith a similar name)
-when you can access it a search for Mr. Yanik's ref: 151-0846-00 finds
several threads.

some quotes:

" the Tek cross ref says these are 2N3866A NPN RF power transistors in a
TO-5/39 can, but this part does not work when installed in the scopes,
and the manuals say there is trouble with any transistor that does not
have the base connected to the case."

" These were a custom Tek mod of the standard part.
If you don't use the correct part you will have all sorts of problems with
frequency response and oscillations as you move your hand or the cover
near
these parts (been there - done that)."


So it looks like you have to find an original...
Best Regards

Steve Sousa



Perhaps the broken leads can be repaired on the existing part? How about
finding a TO-92 case transistor with very close specs and build a shield
around it connected to the base?



Jim Yanik June 8th 07 09:37 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
"James Sweet" wrote in
news:Ophai.21$pd5.18@trnddc02:


"Steve Sousa" wrote in message
anews.com...

"todd" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello: Upon removing the case from my 2246 scope, the case snagged
on the heat sink of one of the transistors in the "VO Gain" section
of the main PC board (not the processor board), breaking the leads
of this transistor. The transistor is a round metallic 3-lead
transistor labelled " Motorola logo, 0846, 8641". It is one of a
pair and has a slip-on metallic heat sink attached. I have been
unable to identify or cross-reference this transistor, and would
appreciate any help in identifying (and hopefully obtaining) another
pair of transistors. Thank you in advance
Todd K4RR


-Go to http:\\groups.yahoo.com
-register
-subscribe the "TekScopes" group (copy and paste the name, there's a
group whith a similar name)
-when you can access it a search for Mr. Yanik's ref: 151-0846-00
finds several threads.

some quotes:

" the Tek cross ref says these are 2N3866A NPN RF power transistors
in a TO-5/39 can, but this part does not work when installed in the
scopes, and the manuals say there is trouble with any transistor that
does not have the base connected to the case."

" These were a custom Tek mod of the standard part.
If you don't use the correct part you will have all sorts of problems
with frequency response and oscillations as you move your hand or the
cover near
these parts (been there - done that)."


So it looks like you have to find an original...
Best Regards

Steve Sousa



Perhaps the broken leads can be repaired on the existing part? How
about finding a TO-92 case transistor with very close specs and build
a shield around it connected to the base?




did the part that broke off your scope have it's base connected to the
case? I don't recall that for the 2246.
2N3866A does not ring any bells for that 151-0846 part number,either.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

John E. June 15th 07 05:39 PM

Tek 2246 scope, need transistor
 
-Go to http:\\groups.yahoo.com
-register
-subscribe the "TekScopes" group (copy and paste the name, there's a
group whith a similar name)
-when you can access it a search for Mr. Yanik's ref: 151-0846-00 finds
several threads.


I second Steve S's suggestion. The TekScopes group membership are numerous
and very helpful. Members include some Tek retirees. Much helpful info
collected there. I'm sure someone has fixed your particular problem before.

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TekScopes/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

This URL is also the "join" web page.

Good luck,
--
John English



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