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VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522
Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US $462.00 Make no payments for 3 months Apply Ended: Mar-05-07 18:42:21 PST Shipping costs: Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details Ships to: Worldwide Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States History: 11 bids Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private ) You can also: Email to a friend | Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Sco 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 |
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On Mar 6, 2:36 am, "Bret Ludwig" wrote:
PS John F. Kennedy is still dead too, dead dead dead It doesn't matter how many shots or gunmen? PAH |
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On 6 Mar 2007 01:36:27 -0800, "Bret Ludwig"
wrote: VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# Ok... ZZZZ OOOO TTTTT Z O O T Z O O T Z O O T Z O O T ZZZZ OOOO T You are now damned. Just remember, you asked for it... |
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On Mar 6, 3:36 am, "Bret Ludwig" wrote:
VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US $462.00 Make no payments for 3 months Apply Ended: Mar-05-07 18:42:21 PST Shipping costs: Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details Ships to: Worldwide Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States History: 11 bids Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private ) You can also: Email to a friend | Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Sco 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 What's amazing is the morons that respond to this, but that's YOUR purpose in life I guess. |
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Hey Bret,
Could you lay off the swearing? I hear enough of it during the day, which I have no control over and I don't appreciate reading it at this tube hobby group. It's uncalled for. If you look in your dictionary, there are many, many other words you can use to express anger, surprise, bewilderment, etc. Expand your vocabulary! Edward Morris .. "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message oups.com... VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US $462.00 Make no payments for 3 months Apply Ended: Mar-05-07 18:42:21 PST Shipping costs: Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details Ships to: Worldwide Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States History: 11 bids Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private ) You can also: Email to a friend | Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Sco 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 |
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On Mar 6, 8:47 am, "Edward R. Morris" wrote:
Hey Bret, Could you lay off the swearing? I hear enough of it during the day, which I have no control over and I don't appreciate reading it at this tube hobby group. It's uncalled for. If you look in your dictionary, there are many, many other words you can use to express anger, surprise, bewilderment, etc. Expand your vocabulary! Edward Morris ."Bret Ludwig" wrote in message oups.com... VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US $462.00 Make no payments for 3 months Apply Ended: Mar-05-07 18:42:21 PST Shipping costs: Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details Ships to: Worldwide Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States History: 11 bids Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private ) You can also: Email to a friend | Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Sco 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Brilliant Edward. Encourage him how to write his Spam. Admirable. |
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On Mar 6, 7:14 am, "Radiola" wrote:
On Mar 6, 3:36 am, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 Item number: 270094866875 Email to a friend Increase your chances of winning next time: Track your bidding, especially during the final minutes of a listing. Use My eBay, email notifications, and eBay Toolbar. Try entering your highest maximum bid. eBay will only use as much of your bid as necessary to win. Use completed item search to better estimate the final price of items you bid on. Winning bid: US $462.00 Make no payments for 3 months Apply Ended: Mar-05-07 18:42:21 PST Shipping costs: Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details Ships to: Worldwide Item location: PUTNEY VERMONT, United States History: 11 bids Winning bidder: wlaud73 ( private ) You can also: Email to a friend | Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Feb-28-07 18:42:21 PST Starting bid: US $35.00 Payment methods: PayPal, Personal check, Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: oxshunnut324( 1044Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feedback: 99.9% Positive Member: since Apr-21-99 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items Contact the seller instantly Buy safely 1. Check the seller's reputation Sco 1044 | 99.9% Positive Read feedback comments 2. Check how you're protected This item is covered up to $2,000 See eligibility Description Increase Sales by 18% and double your hits - Vendio Gallery VINTAGE WESTERN ELECTRIC 19C OSCILLATOR SER# 40522 What's amazing is the morons that respond to this, but that's YOUR purpose in life I guess. Do you count yourself as TROLLED? PWN3D? |
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"Steven" said:
PS John F. Kennedy is still dead too, dead dead dead It doesn't matter how many shots or gunmen? Please don't get him started. Bratwig just loves attention, *any* attention. -- - Maggies are an addiction for life. - |
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I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has
bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. |
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"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message ups.com... I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. Bret, it would make much more sense for your posts to inform us what you are talking about, rather than just posting the text from the auction. If you want us to know that one person is buying all these for a particular reason, then that is what you need to say. If this "ollie" is paying the top dollar for them, and apparently he must be if he is winning them all, then he is free to do what he wants with them. Maybe you should learn to mind your own business, and quit trying to stir up others with matters that only seem to concern you. If you think the American people should pay more than what these are worth just to keep them from "ollie", go ahead and spend your own money on them. Go ahead, fill your basement with them. But please stop cross-posting these delusional reports in such a non-sensical way. I don't think anyone in the antique radio group cares about your crusades. And apparently you are the only one who considers that this is a political issue, worthy of your paranoid rantings. No need to blame all Americans for not thinking the way you do. We have enough nuts like you around as it is. |
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In article . com,
"Bret Ludwig" wrote: I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. So what is wrong with him buying them all and "junking them out"? They are apparently not useful as they are and so don't command a high price. If they are somehow such a great bargain at the current price, why don't you buy them up and resell them to the "ollie"? Why would any right thinking American want one of these "Woo Woos" in the first place? Regards, John Byrns -- Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/ |
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"Edward R. Morris" wrote in message ... Hey Bret, Could you lay off the swearing? I hear enough of it during the day, which I have no control over and I don't appreciate reading it at this tube hobby group. It's uncalled for. If you look in your dictionary, there are many, many other words you can use to express anger, surprise, bewilderment, etc. Expand your vocabulary! I'd guess that you do not care much for George Carlin? |
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Whatever it is this is the auction on e-bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...6875%26fvi%3D1 "jim menning" wrote in message ... "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message ups.com... I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. Bret, it would make much more sense for your posts to inform us what you are talking about, rather than just posting the text from the auction. If you want us to know that one person is buying all these for a particular reason, then that is what you need to say. If this "ollie" is paying the top dollar for them, and apparently he must be if he is winning them all, then he is free to do what he wants with them. Maybe you should learn to mind your own business, and quit trying to stir up others with matters that only seem to concern you. If you think the American people should pay more than what these are worth just to keep them from "ollie", go ahead and spend your own money on them. Go ahead, fill your basement with them. But please stop cross-posting these delusional reports in such a non-sensical way. I don't think anyone in the antique radio group cares about your crusades. And apparently you are the only one who considers that this is a political issue, worthy of your paranoid rantings. No need to blame all Americans for not thinking the way you do. We have enough nuts like you around as it is. |
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On Mar 6, 3:42 pm, John Byrns wrote:
In article . com, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. So what is wrong with him buying them all and "junking them out"? They are apparently not useful as they are and so don't command a high price. If they are somehow such a great bargain at the current price, why don't you buy them up and resell them to the "ollie"? Why would any right thinking American want one of these "Woo Woos" in the first place? This is actually an intelligent question. In the 70s and 80s the Japanese, primarily then, bought up ALL of the extant WE theater gear. Usually at very low prices to the American sellers. Now there are none of these left, but at least most are still in good condition if you want to go to Japan to see one. Now these WE boxes are being parted out and trashed for some transformers which are not terribly good, but the orientals-now mostly Koreans and politically connected mainland Chinese-fetishize them. The trend of all our old stuff going over there for peanuts isn't good. The WE 19C is a dedicated telco box that is useful today for.....well, admittedly not a lot. It is a heterodyne oscillator that has such colossal phase noise that you can hear it do weird things to small line fluctuations right through, usually, its own caps, which are noisy as many were made between 1946 and 1961. It's one of the few pieces of test equipment that is built electrically with series heater string and "hot chassis", except the chassis itself isn't. An isolated bus bar provides rail voltages. An interesting telco collectible because most all of them went through rework and have many interesting variations. The same one has either a front lid or rack ears. The power cord may be run out front or the side, either a fixed cord or a socket, but never a socket on the front. Most were made with the WE center swing "speedometer" meter but some like this last one had more conventional meter movements. The heterodyne oscillator is described in works like Williams et al as a crude stopgap but Mr. Dick Pierce has informed us, thanks to my ranting, the concept has a great advantage in frequency-swept work and was made in highly stable form by Bruel and Kjaer and others. I actually own two of these now. What's amazing is that though both were filthy and had a lot of oxidation inside I took a chance and plugged both straight in to the outlet. Both worked flawlessly. In contrast I own three HP tube audio oscillators in lunchbox cases, and while all three work I had to do a fair amount of renovation on all three. |
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On Mar 6, 2:48 pm, (John Goller, k9uwa)
wrote: In article . com, says... somehow me thinks that you just want to buy some of them for a pricetag thats cheaper than the going market price. Apparently your pocket isn't deep enough to get one... therefore suggest that you consider spending your time earning some $$ Money $$ instead of whining to the newsgroups about your lack of funds... Or perhaps spend your time looking in places other than FleaBay like Hamfests and such.... perhaps the price there would be a little better? You have to be joking. Around here hamfest price is usually at or above ebay pricing. |
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If you want us to know that one person is buying all these for a particular reason, then that is what you need to say. If this "ollie" is paying the top dollar for them, and apparently he must be if he is winning them all, then he is free to do what he wants with them. Maybe you should learn to mind your own business, and quit trying to stir up others with matters that only seem to concern you. If you think the American people should pay more than what these are worth just to keep them from "ollie", go ahead and spend your own money on them. What, are we libertarians? We are not libertarians yet, and you may tell that to your followers. |
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Bratwig said:
I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. While *you* junk out trannies out of perfectly good ST70s for your silly geetah amp projects. And bragging about it at every opportunity you get. You may now resume your daily dumpster diving. Happy hunting! -- - Maggies are an addiction for life. - |
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On Mar 6, 5:33 pm, Sander deWaal wrote:
Bratwig said: I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. While *you* junk out trannies out of perfectly good ST70s for your silly geetah amp projects. And bragging about it at every opportunity you get. You may now resume your daily dumpster diving. Happy hunting! Except that I don't. In fact I NEVER junked out ST70s for guitar amps because as I have repeatedly said the ST70 transformer is a poor choice for that purpose. In fact i've put in other transformers into Sunn amps, which used Dyna iron from the factory, specifically because of that. Also, old ST70s are no longer cost effective for parts use. As I have also said. I HAVE junked out Scotts and Fishers which were landfill bound anyway, for guitar amp use. Again, no longer cost effective. |
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In . com "Bret Ludwig" writes:
because our country is being bought out from under us. An obsolete audio oscillator hardly constitutes "our country". -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- |
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In .com "Bret Ludwig" writes:
On Mar 6, 3:42 pm, John Byrns wrote: In article . com, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. So what is wrong with him buying them all and "junking them out"? They are apparently not useful as they are and so don't command a high price. If they are somehow such a great bargain at the current price, why don't you buy them up and resell them to the "ollie"? Why would any right thinking American want one of these "Woo Woos" in the first place? This is actually an intelligent question. In the 70s and 80s the Japanese, primarily then, bought up ALL of the extant WE theater gear. Usually at very low prices to the American sellers. Now there are none of these left, but at least most are still in good condition if you want to go to Japan to see one. Now these WE boxes are being parted out and trashed for some transformers which are not terribly good, but the orientals-now mostly Koreans and politically connected mainland Chinese-fetishize them. The trend of all our old stuff going over there for peanuts isn't good. Bret, you gotta get some perspective here. I'm a collector, so I can feel your pain. But the vast majority of people would think it's a GOOD thing to have buyers from the Pacific Rim pay huge amounts of cash for our obsolete electronics. Seriously. If you wish to put a political/economic spin on this, I can't imagine a better situation for the United States. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- |
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"Tim Mullen" wrote in message
... In .com "Bret Ludwig" writes: On Mar 6, 3:42 pm, John Byrns wrote: In article . com, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: snipped Bret, you gotta get some perspective here. I'm a collector, so I can feel your pain. But the vast majority of people would think it's a GOOD thing to have buyers from the Pacific Rim pay huge amounts of cash for our obsolete electronics. Seriously. If you wish to put a political/economic spin on this, I can't imagine a better situation for the United States. -- Tim Mullen I had acquired an older Apple Computer system. To "me" - it was junk whether it worked or not. I put it on E-Bay. A guy from Japan asked if I would ship to Japan, my answer - NO. He asked if I would ship to a U.S. - contact, which I was happy to do. He bought the computer system. Just to ship within the U.S. I thought was bad enough. I can imagine what it would have cost to Japan. He may have been an Apple "collector" - I don't know - but he was certainly willing to pay more than "I" would have - for it. Lou |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
On Mar 6, 5:33 pm, Sander deWaal wrote: Bratwig said: I'm sorry I offended anyone. My point was that this one ollie has bought EVERY ONE of these things on eBay in over a year. He junks them out for the transformers. I'm disappointed in my fellow Americans at not driving the price into the stratosphere like they should because our country is being bought out from under us. While *you* junk out trannies out of perfectly good ST70s for your silly geetah amp projects. And bragging about it at every opportunity you get. You may now resume your daily dumpster diving. Happy hunting! Except that I don't. In fact I NEVER junked out ST70s for guitar amps because as I have repeatedly said the ST70 transformer is a poor choice for that purpose. In fact i've put in other transformers into Sunn amps, which used Dyna iron from the factory, specifically because of that. Also, old ST70s are no longer cost effective for parts use. As I have also said. I HAVE junked out Scotts and Fishers which were landfill bound anyway, for guitar amp use. Again, no longer cost effective. I gotta wonder how valuable this old tube audio gear would be if oriental buyers did not exist. These guys have actually altered my buying pattern at swaps. In the past, If I saw a junky piece of tube gear suitable as a parts donor, I would pass it by and then pick it up on my second go-round the swap to avoid interrupting the first go-round, which I do rather quickly to catch any items which tend to sell early and quick. It was a reasonable certainty that the junky item(s) that I spotted would still be there on my second-go-round, because they were junk and only good for parts. I can't do that anymore. It seems that almost anything with a hefty high-voltage trasformer, output transformer or choke goes quickly now, regardless of condition. If I want it and don't buy it right away, I won't get another chance, because it will already be sold. The buyers I am competing with are almost always oriental-the caucasian attendees seem to pass 'em right by. I'm not being prejudiced here, nor am I whining. At a swap meet, it's every man for himself, and if somebody gets something that I want before I do, more power to 'em. It's just strange that those of a particular ethnicity would find more value in this old equipment than the rest of us. -Scott |
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In rec.antiques.radio+phono Tim Mullen wrote:
In . com "Bret Ludwig" writes: because our country is being bought out from under us. An obsolete audio oscillator hardly constitutes "our country". Also, he has 2 of those already, so they are indeed being preserved. What more can we ask for? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. |
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"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
"Tim Mullen" wrote in message ... In .com "Bret Ludwig" writes: On Mar 6, 3:42 pm, John Byrns wrote: In article . com, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: snipped Bret, you gotta get some perspective here. I'm a collector, so I can feel your pain. But the vast majority of people would think it's a GOOD thing to have buyers from the Pacific Rim pay huge amounts of cash for our obsolete electronics. Seriously. If you wish to put a political/economic spin on this, I can't imagine a better situation for the United States. I had acquired an older Apple Computer system. To "me" - it was junk whether it worked or not. I put it on E-Bay. A guy from Japan asked if I would ship to Japan, my answer - NO. He asked if I would ship to a U.S. - contact, which I was happy to do. He bought the computer system. Just to ship within the U.S. I thought was bad enough. I can imagine what it would have cost to Japan. He may have been an Apple "collector" - I don't know - but he was certainly willing to pay more than "I" would have - for it. A basic principle of business seems to have escaped Bret, but fortunately not you. "Buy low, sell high". |
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