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clifto December 29th 06 01:14 AM

Toshiba CF30E50, no filament
 
CF30E50, no filament. No voltage at the socket, or apparently at the
CRT board. Resoldered CRT socket and flyback, no joy. Removed and
put back CRT socket to eliminate socket pin corrosion. 30KV present.
4.9 ohms across heater pins with electronics attached. Tapping everything
in reach has no effect.

Original owner of the set gave it to me, saying the picture would fade
in and out; my experience was that it faded out yesterday and hasn't
come back since.


[email protected] December 29th 06 01:29 AM

Toshiba CF30E50, no filament
 
clifto wrote:

CF30E50, no filament. No voltage at the socket, or apparently at the
CRT board. Resoldered CRT socket and flyback, no joy. Removed and
put back CRT socket to eliminate socket pin corrosion. 30KV present.
4.9 ohms across heater pins with electronics attached. Tapping everything
in reach has no effect.

Original owner of the set gave it to me, saying the picture would fade
in and out; my experience was that it faded out yesterday and hasn't
come back since.


Where does the filament supply come from, a wind on the loptf? Wherever
it is, just follow it back and see what bit's dead.

If you cant fix it, eg its an open wind on the loptf, there are 2
workarounds. One is to wrap usually 3 turns round the loptf to get the
necessary voltage for filament supply. The other is to hook it up to
some other supply rail that can supply the wanted V and has enough
current delivery to cope with it. Last of all one can always fit a
filament transformer.

All you need do is use your multimeter.


NT


Malissa Baldwin December 29th 06 01:59 AM

Toshiba CF30E50, no filament
 

clifto wrote:
CF30E50, no filament. No voltage at the socket, or apparently at the
CRT board. Resoldered CRT socket and flyback, no joy. Removed and
put back CRT socket to eliminate socket pin corrosion. 30KV present.
4.9 ohms across heater pins with electronics attached. Tapping everything
in reach has no effect.

Hows about instead of tapping on everything you just plug it in and
turn it on, jizzball.

Original owner of the set gave it to me, saying the picture would fade
in and out; my experience was that it faded out yesterday and hasn't
come back since.


Another piece of **** made by a supposed 'quality' Jap manufacturer.


[email protected] December 29th 06 02:51 AM

Toshiba CF30E50, no filament
 
clifto wrote:
CF30E50, no filament. No voltage at the socket, or apparently at the
CRT board. Resoldered CRT socket and flyback, no joy. Removed and
put back CRT socket to eliminate socket pin corrosion. 30KV present.
4.9 ohms across heater pins with electronics attached. Tapping everything
in reach has no effect.

Original owner of the set gave it to me, saying the picture would fade
in and out; my experience was that it faded out yesterday and hasn't
come back since.


If you are really only losing the filament and it is out completely, it
is a simple matter to trace the filament pulses from the flyback,
through the current limiting resistor, to the crt socket. You really
need an o'scope as most meters do not accurately read the 15KHz pulses
off the flyback to show the voltage.

You should have the G2 voltage ~300V on the crt socket which would in
fact confirm the flyback is still running.

Not too bad for an 12 year old Toshiba that it still is worth taking
the time to fix it.


clifto December 29th 06 07:34 AM

Toshiba CF30E50, no filament
 
wrote:
clifto wrote:
CF30E50, no filament. No voltage at the socket, or apparently at the
CRT board. Resoldered CRT socket and flyback, no joy. Removed and
put back CRT socket to eliminate socket pin corrosion. 30KV present.
4.9 ohms across heater pins with electronics attached. Tapping everything
in reach has no effect.


If you are really only losing the filament and it is out completely, it
is a simple matter to trace the filament pulses from the flyback,
through the current limiting resistor, to the crt socket. You really
need an o'scope as most meters do not accurately read the 15KHz pulses
off the flyback to show the voltage.


I'll try that. Usually my Fluke 77 comes through, but it's worth
checking. Oddly enough I can't see the heaters lighting inside the
tube neck when it's operating.

You should have the G2 voltage ~300V on the crt socket which would in
fact confirm the flyback is still running.


Will do, but the HV disappears so fast when the set is shut off that
I'd expect it to disappear fast if the drive stops. I did in fact see
the picture fade in and out a few times since my original post, and
it's gradual.

Not too bad for an 12 year old Toshiba that it still is worth taking
the time to fix it.


I have a 22 year old Toshiba whose only problem is intermittent full
volume. I plan to troubleshoot it. Picture is still near perfect. I
have another 22 year old 13" Toshiba that I just gave away, and the
recipient is blissfully happy with it. If only they hadn't stopped
making their own sets...


[email protected] December 29th 06 10:40 AM

Toshiba CF30E50, no filament
 
wrote:

If you are really only losing the filament and it is out completely, it
is a simple matter to trace the filament pulses from the flyback,
through the current limiting resistor, to the crt socket. You really
need an o'scope as most meters do not accurately read the 15KHz pulses
off the flyback to show the voltage.


I've always found a multimeter fine. Yes it reads a bit wrong cos of
the waveshape, but you only need to know roughly whats there to see if
its ok or not.


NT



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