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"mains " timer conversion...
Hi all, I want to convert a mains type digital daily/weekly timer to
12v (nom.) operation.I know that the cct. inside (relay) etc operates at 28v, and normally could float at mains potential in normal use, this conversion is required for use in a boat so no mains likely to be present! if i change the relay to a 12v one, with proper protection (fusing etc) where abouts in the cct could I disconnect the "mains dropper" part and connect the battery 12v?is there a site containing ccts that use mains dropping cap/res type ccts...with thanks, |
"mains " timer conversion...
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oups.com... Hi all, I want to convert a mains type digital daily/weekly timer to 12v (nom.) operation.I know that the cct. inside (relay) etc operates at 28v, and normally could float at mains potential in normal use, this conversion is required for use in a boat so no mains likely to be present! if i change the relay to a 12v one, with proper protection (fusing etc) where abouts in the cct could I disconnect the "mains dropper" part and connect the battery 12v?is there a site containing ccts that use mains dropping cap/res type ccts...with thanks, Does it either have a geared down motor to drive the on/off time select keys on a dial or a LCD display? Either of which may use an aspect of the AC supply -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ |
"mains " timer conversion...
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"mains " timer conversion...
wrote in message oups.com... Hi all, I want to convert a mains type digital daily/weekly timer to 12v (nom.) operation.I know that the cct. inside (relay) etc operates at 28v, and normally could float at mains potential in normal use, this conversion is required for use in a boat so no mains likely to be present! if i change the relay to a 12v one, with proper protection (fusing etc) where abouts in the cct could I disconnect the "mains dropper" part and connect the battery 12v?is there a site containing ccts that use mains dropping cap/res type ccts...with thanks, You are in the UK? Doesn't this device need 50 Hz for timing? |
"mains " timer conversion...
Homer J Simpson wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Hi all, I want to convert a mains type digital daily/weekly timer to 12v (nom.) operation.I know that the cct. inside (relay) etc operates at 28v, and normally could float at mains potential in normal use, this conversion is required for use in a boat so no mains likely to be present! if i change the relay to a 12v one, with proper protection (fusing etc) where abouts in the cct could I disconnect the "mains dropper" part and connect the battery 12v?is there a site containing ccts that use mains dropping cap/res type ccts...with thanks, You are in the UK? Doesn't this device need 50 Hz for timing? Some do, some digital ones use batteries as the sole power source for the electronics though. |
"mains " timer conversion...
"James Sweet" wrote in message news:06mIg.1959$pX3.924@trnddc07... You are in the UK? Doesn't this device need 50 Hz for timing? Some do, some digital ones use batteries as the sole power source for the electronics though. OP said 'Mains' unit, implying UK and AC. |
"mains " timer conversion...
"Homer J Simpson" wrote in message news:%FmIg.21030$tP4.19147@clgrps12... "James Sweet" wrote in message news:06mIg.1959$pX3.924@trnddc07... You are in the UK? Doesn't this device need 50 Hz for timing? Some do, some digital ones use batteries as the sole power source for the electronics though. OP said 'Mains' unit, implying UK and AC. I have a mains powered timer in Aus (230v 50hz) which has an internal battery and keeps time without the mains so the electronics does not require 50hz. Relay operation may another thing, I have never tried to see if it would operate without the mains available. -- John G Wot's Your Real Problem? |
"mains " timer conversion...
"John G" wrote in message ... I have a mains powered timer in Aus (230v 50hz) which has an internal battery and keeps time without the mains so the electronics does not require 50hz. Relay operation may another thing, I have never tried to see if it would operate without the mains available. I assume you know there are a bunch of electronics distributors in Sydney and Melbourne who may have a 12 VDC unit you can use? Maybe even Dick Smith or Tandy? |
"mains " timer conversion...
"Homer J Simpson" wrote in message news:9V8Jg.23131$tP4.18932@clgrps12... "John G" wrote in message ... I have a mains powered timer in Aus (230v 50hz) which has an internal battery and keeps time without the mains so the electronics does not require 50hz. Relay operation may another thing, I have never tried to see if it would operate without the mains available. I assume you know there are a bunch of electronics distributors in Sydney and Melbourne who may have a 12 VDC unit you can use? Maybe even Dick Smith or Tandy? I suppose this reply should have been directed to the OP who someone else decided actually lives in the UK. I have been in electronics for 50 years in Sydney and in recent years Dick smith has absorbed Tandy. -- John G Wot's Your Real Problem? |
"mains " timer conversion...
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"mains " timer conversion...
Franc Zabkar wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 01:40:31 -0700, put finger to keyboard and composed: Hi all, I want to convert a mains type digital daily/weekly timer to 12v (nom.) operation.I know that the cct. inside (relay) etc operates at 28v, and normally could float at mains potential in normal use, this conversion is required for use in a boat so no mains likely to be present! if i change the relay to a 12v one, with proper protection (fusing etc) where abouts in the cct could I disconnect the "mains dropper" part and connect the battery 12v?is there a site containing ccts that use mains dropping cap/res type ccts...with thanks, Can you see any zener diodes? My LCD, battery backed, digital timer uses one for voltage reduction. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. Sorry for the delay in replying...thank you for all your suggestions the timer is an LCD type (with backup lithium cell) ,the reason I am using this (on boat) is because of its programmability, i.e. multiple switching many times daily/weekly....not so sure a "simple 12v off the shelf timer would do this, possibly NASA produces this sort of thing way out of budget!..because it is battery powered and has quite low standby power requirements it would be suitable for an unattended boat (on water!).I would use it to "transmit short range" FM signals (ie battery volts ,bilge water level,intrusion,etc.)to a reciever in my car!This may sound a bit "over the top" but cant see a reason why not.....thinking about the idea of using an old prepay mobile phone as a burglar/intrusion alarm simple solenoid to press call button....hmmmm?...perhaps two calls in two minutes to signify bilge water alarm,,,three calls to indicate ..well its unending! I think I really should get stuck in to these PICS. . .these I assume would control all this? I will persevere with the digital timer effort,thank you all again for your input,sorry to so longwinded!any comments appreciated.... PS I hope I put this reply in the right place? |
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