INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
Hello,
Has anyone seen any lot problems with BB/TI INA118UB instrumentation amps? http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ina118.html We've just received 100 of these devices that we use on the front end of a A/D and they all appear to be bad. They are marked INA118UB with lot code 0425. We run them from +5VDC power supply, and regardless of their input, their output is pegged at 4.2VDC. It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Also, they were purchased from Part Miner and it's beginning to look like they may be putting up a fight with regards to our returning them - has anyone had problems with this sort of thing with them? Thanks. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
You pose a good point about knock off chips. I'll keep that one in
mind whenever I purchase parts through part miner. Is this a new circuit you are using the IAMP in? I'm sure you ruled out all other possibilities before coming to the conclusion that it is indeed the instrument amp. Please, post how it goes. I'm interested in knowing if the part houses are passing along forgeries. cheers JW wrote: Hello, Has anyone seen any lot problems with BB/TI INA118UB instrumentation amps? http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ina118.html We've just received 100 of these devices that we use on the front end of a A/D and they all appear to be bad. They are marked INA118UB with lot code 0425. We run them from +5VDC power supply, and regardless of their input, their output is pegged at 4.2VDC. It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Also, they were purchased from Part Miner and it's beginning to look like they may be putting up a fight with regards to our returning them - has anyone had problems with this sort of thing with them? Thanks. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
"JW" wrote in message
... It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Send one or two to TI - I'm sure they'll be able to tell you pretty quickly. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
JW wrote: Also, they were purchased from Part Miner and it's beginning to look like they may be putting up a fight with regards to our returning them - has anyone had problems with this sort of thing with them? Thanks. TI's authorized distributors are Arrow, Avnet, Mouser, Digikey, and Newark. I would first ask where Part Miner aquired these because there is an issue with counterfeit parts in the industry...or so I hear. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
On 26 Jul 2006 03:17:01 -0700 "Mr. Wizard" wrote in
Message id: .com: You pose a good point about knock off chips. I'll keep that one in mind whenever I purchase parts through part miner. Is this a new circuit you are using the IAMP in? Nope. We just built 500 boards - 400 worked or had other issues, The other 100 have bad amps. All the working boards have a different lot code. The two sets of lots were purchased from different vendors. I'm sure you ruled out all other possibilities before coming to the conclusion that it is indeed the instrument amp. Yes. Please, post how it goes. I'm interested in knowing if the part houses are passing along forgeries. cheers I will, thanks. JW wrote: Hello, Has anyone seen any lot problems with BB/TI INA118UB instrumentation amps? http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/ina118.html We've just received 100 of these devices that we use on the front end of a A/D and they all appear to be bad. They are marked INA118UB with lot code 0425. We run them from +5VDC power supply, and regardless of their input, their output is pegged at 4.2VDC. It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Also, they were purchased from Part Miner and it's beginning to look like they may be putting up a fight with regards to our returning them - has anyone had problems with this sort of thing with them? Thanks. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:55:26 -0700 "Walter Harley"
wrote in Message id: : "JW" wrote in message .. . It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Send one or two to TI - I'm sure they'll be able to tell you pretty quickly. Good point, I'll see if I can contact someone there... Thanks to all for your followups. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:18:50 -0400 JW wrote in Message id:
: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:55:26 -0700 "Walter Harley" wrote in Message id: : "JW" wrote in message . .. It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Send one or two to TI - I'm sure they'll be able to tell you pretty quickly. Good point, I'll see if I can contact someone there... Well, it looks like they're forgeries. This is from the support engineer at TI, after I supplied them with a picture of the markings on the chip: "I would say that the parts were not manufactured by Texas Instruments. We acquired Burr Brown in 2001 and the top side markings *if* correct would imply a date in 2004. The top side marking standard would have been switched over to TI's 5 or 7 digit date code rather than 4 at a year and definitely by 2004. It is possible that Part Miner procured the INA118's from our authorized distributors but they will have to be able to show the paper work to prove that they acquired them from such authorized channels. We can guarantee how the parts are stored and shipped when they are sold by our authorized distributors: Arrow, Avnet, Mouser, Digikey, and Newark; however, when parts are obtained on the grey market then all bets are off." Another reason not to use unauthorized suppliers, and to stay away from Part Miner. |
INA118UB instrumentation amp woes
JW wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:18:50 -0400 JW wrote in Message id: : On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:55:26 -0700 "Walter Harley" wrote in Message id: : "JW" wrote in message . .. It occurred to me that these could be forgeries. Send one or two to TI - I'm sure they'll be able to tell you pretty quickly. Good point, I'll see if I can contact someone there... Well, it looks like they're forgeries. This is from the support engineer at TI, after I supplied them with a picture of the markings on the chip: "I would say that the parts were not manufactured by Texas Instruments. We acquired Burr Brown in 2001 and the top side markings *if* correct would imply a date in 2004. The top side marking standard would have been switched over to TI's 5 or 7 digit date code rather than 4 at a year and definitely by 2004. It is possible that Part Miner procured the INA118's from our authorized distributors but they will have to be able to show the paper work to prove that they acquired them from such authorized channels. We can guarantee how the parts are stored and shipped when they are sold by our authorized distributors: Arrow, Avnet, Mouser, Digikey, and Newark; however, when parts are obtained on the grey market then all bets are off." Another reason not to use unauthorized suppliers, and to stay away from Part Miner. Thank you for posting a follow-up. If Part Miner is unwilling to verify their sources then they will definitely go on my no buy list. |
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