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bloggybob June 16th 06 08:32 AM

Looking for info on ionizers
 
would like to build an ionizer /filter for my home ....i am seasoned in
electronics repair etc. just looking for some schematics or any info
obtainable ... ive built a ramsey ionizer kit but now im going bigger and
better and on a larger usable scale preferably.. thanks for any info


bob



n cook June 16th 06 10:07 AM

Looking for info on ionizers
 
bloggybob wrote in message
. ..
would like to build an ionizer /filter for my home ....i am seasoned in
electronics repair etc. just looking for some schematics or any info
obtainable ... ive built a ramsey ionizer kit but now im going bigger and
better and on a larger usable scale preferably.. thanks for any info


bob



Why do you wish to poison yourself with Ozone ?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/




bloggybob June 19th 06 07:38 AM

Looking for info on ionizers
 
i wasnt aware that it was bad for you ... can you elaborate more plz?




"n cook" wrote in message
...
bloggybob wrote in message
. ..
would like to build an ionizer /filter for my home ....i am seasoned in
electronics repair etc. just looking for some schematics or any info
obtainable ... ive built a ramsey ionizer kit but now im going bigger

and
better and on a larger usable scale preferably.. thanks for any info


bob



Why do you wish to poison yourself with Ozone ?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/






GregS June 19th 06 02:36 PM

Looking for info on ionizers
 
In article , "bloggybob" wrote:
would like to build an ionizer /filter for my home ....i am seasoned in
electronics repair etc. just looking for some schematics or any info
obtainable ... ive built a ramsey ionizer kit but now im going bigger and
better and on a larger usable scale preferably.. thanks for any info


I have built different purifiers. Ionizers basically emit an ion wind. If
you do it right there is no high level of ozone. You can also have an oppositely
charged plate to help collect them. I have seen many dirty walls caused by
ionizers as the particles stick to nearby objects. They are in many air filters
or part of them. For my first HV plate type, I went to Sears and studied
there system. I just copied it. Later I bought a small tabletop
model from Sears. Same as that one on TV. An electrified dust particle
will be attracted to a opposite charged plate. The plates are spaced + - + - + etc.
An emitter is placed in front of the plates to charge incomming particles.
There are tons of these filters installed everywhere, including all bars for
smoking. Its fun and sometimes economicle to built your own, but
it sure is easier to just buy them. I don't see as many HV transformers on the maket,
especially from Herbach & Rademan, but the use of small switching transformers
would be the way to go now days. Ozone machines can also be very nice.
while people are vacant, Ozone cleans up the bad smells from bars and restuarants at night,
allthough some use them while people are there, not a good thing.
I also bought an ozone machine for personal use. Yes, I have built Ozone machines.
Running HV 60 Hz AC to closly spaced electrodes will produce Ozone. There is another
machine which many electronics assemblers are familiar. When you emit both
pos and neg ions, this will reduce electrostatic discharge problems around
electronics. There is no effective cleaning action. Its also used in some small nozzle
air guns.

greg

GregS June 19th 06 03:32 PM

Looking for info on ionizers
 
In article , "bloggybob" wrote:
i wasnt aware that it was bad for you ... can you elaborate more plz?


Ozone is bad for you. Air filters are good for you.
One thing an electric cleaner does not do, well I,m not entirely sure,
is clean up Radon. Radon is bad for you. A carbon filter can collect Radon gas.
I would think the gov't would inform all people that using a carbon flter is best for you health.
I see and smell the Ozone of many lamps used around in hospital or food
type areas. I also smell the clean Ozone smell when the sun is shining brightly into
a room. This is contrary to "Ozone is bad for you" syndrom. They don't tell you
to close the drapes and shut out the sun. allthough most new windows
do inhibit ultraviolet and infra red rays from going through to any
great amount.

I will never forget the first tme I drove into the LA basin
from the desert in Ca. Oh my.

During a Radon test, PA. regulation state that an electrostatic filter
should not be run during a test. Well you can take that for what it is.
They however do not say anything about a carbon filter. Funny
how things are. I recently bought a Radon monitor myself.
Did you know that when it rains the Radon levels inside go up.

greg



"n cook" wrote in message
...
bloggybob wrote in message
. ..
would like to build an ionizer /filter for my home ....i am seasoned in
electronics repair etc. just looking for some schematics or any info
obtainable ... ive built a ramsey ionizer kit but now im going bigger

and
better and on a larger usable scale preferably.. thanks for any info


bob



Why do you wish to poison yourself with Ozone ?

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/






bloggybob June 21st 06 05:14 AM

Looking for info on ionizers
 
Excellent post and great info !! thank you Greg ... much much appreciated :)





"GregS" wrote in message
...
In article , "bloggybob"

wrote:
would like to build an ionizer /filter for my home ....i am seasoned in
electronics repair etc. just looking for some schematics or any info
obtainable ... ive built a ramsey ionizer kit but now im going bigger and
better and on a larger usable scale preferably.. thanks for any info


I have built different purifiers. Ionizers basically emit an ion wind. If
you do it right there is no high level of ozone. You can also have an

oppositely
charged plate to help collect them. I have seen many dirty walls caused by
ionizers as the particles stick to nearby objects. They are in many air

filters
or part of them. For my first HV plate type, I went to Sears and studied
there system. I just copied it. Later I bought a small tabletop
model from Sears. Same as that one on TV. An electrified dust particle
will be attracted to a opposite charged plate. The plates are spaced + -

+ - + etc.
An emitter is placed in front of the plates to charge incomming particles.
There are tons of these filters installed everywhere, including all bars

for
smoking. Its fun and sometimes economicle to built your own, but
it sure is easier to just buy them. I don't see as many HV transformers on

the maket,
especially from Herbach & Rademan, but the use of small switching

transformers
would be the way to go now days. Ozone machines can also be very nice.
while people are vacant, Ozone cleans up the bad smells from bars and

restuarants at night,
allthough some use them while people are there, not a good thing.
I also bought an ozone machine for personal use. Yes, I have built Ozone

machines.
Running HV 60 Hz AC to closly spaced electrodes will produce Ozone. There

is another
machine which many electronics assemblers are familiar. When you emit both
pos and neg ions, this will reduce electrostatic discharge problems around
electronics. There is no effective cleaning action. Its also used in some

small nozzle
air guns.

greg





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