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Brad February 28th 06 03:48 PM

"Initial" Track on CD Rom Disk (Physical Stop or "Seek")
 
Hi,

Thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction with regards
to the "initial" track position (inside) when you first insert a data CD.

Another very important question: Is there a physical "stop" that
stops the head (the head moves toward the center of the CD and "hits"
a physical stop) at that "initial" track position, or is this done
by "seeking" that "initial" track?

Thanks in advance, Brad

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Cliff Top March 1st 06 09:11 AM

"Initial" Track on CD Rom Disk (Physical Stop or "Seek")
 
There is always a limit switch/home position the laser sled returns to to
start reading. The start of the spiral track will be directly under the
laser at that point. At the end of the disc there is ~2mins of 'stop code'
so that when the laser finds itself here, it will know it must trigger
'stop' mode.
CD writers are a little different since they can access an earlier porion of
the disc for power calibration tests.

AW

"Brad" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction with regards
to the "initial" track position (inside) when you first insert a data CD.

Another very important question: Is there a physical "stop" that
stops the head (the head moves toward the center of the CD and "hits"
a physical stop) at that "initial" track position, or is this done
by "seeking" that "initial" track?

Thanks in advance, Brad

Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
be sure there is no active key logger (spyware) in your PC.




Sam Goldwasser March 1st 06 02:34 PM

"Initial" Track on CD Rom Disk (Physical Stop or "Seek")
 
"Cliff Top" writes:

There is always a limit switch/home position the laser sled returns to to
start reading. The start of the spiral track will be directly under the
laser at that point. At the end of the disc there is ~2mins of 'stop code'
so that when the laser finds itself here, it will know it must trigger
'stop' mode.


Note that the "start" of the spiral track is about 1.6 um wide. The
limit switch gets you in the ball park. :)

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CD writers are a little different since they can access an earlier porion of
the disc for power calibration tests.

AW

"Brad" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction with regards
to the "initial" track position (inside) when you first insert a data CD.

Another very important question: Is there a physical "stop" that
stops the head (the head moves toward the center of the CD and "hits"
a physical stop) at that "initial" track position, or is this done
by "seeking" that "initial" track?

Thanks in advance, Brad

Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
be sure there is no active key logger (spyware) in your PC.


[email protected] March 1st 06 05:22 PM

"Initial" Track on CD Rom Disk (Physical Stop or "Seek")
 
Sam Goldwasser wrote:
"Cliff Top" writes:

There is always a limit switch/home position the laser sled returns to to
start reading. The start of the spiral track will be directly under the
laser at that point. At the end of the disc there is ~2mins of 'stop code'
so that when the laser finds itself here, it will know it must trigger
'stop' mode.


Note that the "start" of the spiral track is about 1.6 um wide. The
limit switch gets you in the ball park. :)


My guess is the limit switch (or with the simple magnetic linear motor
used, just sending it to one end and waiting until it can't possibly
still be in transit) just gets you "inside" the starting track from
which point you can start a search in a known direction.

Figure the eccentricity of the disk's rotation is going to be many,
many track widths wide, all the real alignment is done by error signals
from reading the tracks themselves, it's not mechanically anywhere near
that accurate in absolute position.

I could be mistaken, but I think I've actually seen the control loops
in simple players respond to an unreadable disk by doing a spindle
speed search that includes going all the way down through stop and
beyond, so they are spinning in the wrong direction! Could be wron
about that, or it could be an artifact of a brushless motor drive
circuit rather than the control loop though.



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