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The Smoker King January 9th 06 10:54 PM

Zenith Vertical Deflection Problems
 
Hello

I have a Zenith TV. Model ZB2771h. The picture takes up only about half of the screen now, and it has gotten worse over time. I noticed before that as the TV warmed up, it grew from about 1/3 of the screen to about 2/3 of the screen. I have replaced the capacitors around IC2100, but it did not change anything. I did find one bad capacitor.

Also. I can not find a schematic anywhere online. Any ideas?

Does anyone have any ideas as to what else I should do.

Thank You

The Smoker King

[email protected] January 10th 06 05:01 PM

Zenith Vertical Deflection Problems
 
Hello,
Are the black spaces above and below the visible screen parallel? If
they look keystone, you may have a bad deflection yoke. Also, what is
the actual service model number and manufacture date on the set? With
this info [white sticker on back of set], I can check history on the
chassis and get back to you.
friend

The Smoker King wrote:
Hello

I have a Zenith TV. Model ZB2771h. The picture takes up only about
half of the screen now, and it has gotten worse over time. I noticed
before that as the TV warmed up, it grew from about 1/3 of the screen
to about 2/3 of the screen. I have replaced the capacitors around
IC2100, but it did not change anything. I did find one bad capacitor.

Also. I can not find a schematic anywhere online. Any ideas?

Does anyone have any ideas as to what else I should do.

Thank You

The Smoker King


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The Smoker King



The Smoker King January 10th 06 10:40 PM

Here are the numbers and manufacture date off of the back of the TV.
Model No. ZB2771h
Service No. ZB2771h
Serial No. 891-44300092
Manufatcured: July, 1988

Also, the lines are parallel. About 1-2 inches of black space and color lines above the screen, and about 8 inches of black below the viewable screen.

Thanks Again.

JANA January 11th 06 01:51 AM

Zenith Vertical Deflection Problems
 
Usually caused by electrolytic capacitors in the scan amplifiers, and power
supply that are failing over time. As they age, they can become thermo
sensitive. With proper troubleshooting and with the proper experience, the
set can be serviced.

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JANA
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"The Smoker King" wrote in message
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Hello

I have a Zenith TV. Model ZB2771h. The picture takes up only about
half of the screen now, and it has gotten worse over time. I noticed
before that as the TV warmed up, it grew from about 1/3 of the screen
to about 2/3 of the screen. I have replaced the capacitors around
IC2100, but it did not change anything. I did find one bad capacitor.

Also. I can not find a schematic anywhere online. Any ideas?

Does anyone have any ideas as to what else I should do.

Thank You

The Smoker King


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The Smoker King



RonKZ650 January 11th 06 02:30 PM

Zenith Vertical Deflection Problems
 
The ZB series was the special Bose sound model, service info on them is
nearly non existant. Have you replaced both the 33uf and 47uf caps that
sit next to IC2100? These fix the problem most the time. Other
possibilitys include a bad or corrupted eprom IC or IC2100. This is the
Zenith digital chassis I believe. If so, it was about the first design
that used the bus controlled adjustments for height ect, instead of the
old pots. If this set uses a TDA8175 (221-384) for IC2100 be aware it
is no longer available if bad.


The Smoker King January 11th 06 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonKZ650
The ZB series was the special Bose sound model, service info on them is
nearly non existant. Have you replaced both the 33uf and 47uf caps that
sit next to IC2100? These fix the problem most the time. Other
possibilitys include a bad or corrupted eprom IC or IC2100. This is the
Zenith digital chassis I believe. If so, it was about the first design
that used the bus controlled adjustments for height ect, instead of the
old pots. If this set uses a TDA8175 (221-384) for IC2100 be aware it
is no longer available if bad.

I have replaced both of those caps, and I found that a 100uf cap was bad, read about 67uf until I heated it up, then about 98uf. I noticed the (221-384) chip is not made any more, and I have cross-referenced it with another chip that might work.

Thank for your help.

[email protected] January 11th 06 08:40 PM

Zenith Vertical Deflection Problems
 
Change electrolytics caps in the vertical


The Smoker King January 17th 06 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by
Change electrolytics caps in the vertical


I have done that also. A buddy of mine tested the vertical signal coming into the board with an O-scope, and he said the signal is bad before the board.

sofie January 17th 06 11:01 PM

Zenith Vertical Deflection Problems
 
The Smoker King:
Did your "buddy" with the O-scope then conclude that the jungle chip is
bad..... or another related failure.... or did he not conclude anything
about the real problem???
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Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
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"The Smoker King" wrote in message
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Wrote:
Change electrolytics caps in the vertical



I have done that also. A buddy of mine tested the vertical signal
coming into the board with an O-scope, and he said the signal is bad
before the board.


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The Smoker King




The Smoker King January 18th 06 04:27 PM

He did not conclude anything because he doesn't have the schematic and he never messed with the processor before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sofie
The Smoker King:
Did your "buddy" with the O-scope then conclude that the jungle chip is
bad..... or another related failure.... or did he not conclude anything
about the real problem???
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Best Regards,
Daniel Sofie
Electronics Supply & Repair
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"The Smoker King" wrote in message
...

Wrote:
Change electrolytics caps in the vertical



I have done that also. A buddy of mine tested the vertical signal
coming into the board with an O-scope, and he said the signal is bad
before the board.


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The Smoker King



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