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Michael A. Terrell writes:
So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income or total worth. That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote: Michael A. Terrell writes: So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income or total worth. That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000? What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially. Tom |
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if this had anything to do with Science hardware or electronics it would be
interesting. Suffice it to say that anyone who gives anything without expecting something in return would be a great thing. However, charity, is the furthest thing from most peoples minds, that give huge amounts of money to anyone. Its all bout the business end of things. "Tom MacIntyre" wrote in message ... On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: Michael A. Terrell writes: So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income or total worth. That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000? What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially. Tom |
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Tom MacIntyre wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: Michael A. Terrell writes: So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income or total worth. That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000? What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially. Without question, someone giving away 6% of personal wealth that they could not spend in 10 lifetimes is meaningless. If I may inject some considerations. Money itself doesn't matter except for a feeling of security. Richness doesn't necessarily mean greedy. Possessions are a good indicator IMO. Also, time spent doing something matters. Spending 6% of your time helping other people is meaningful. Whether giving 6% of your income is charitable just depends. If I had as much money, I might never stop shopping and get very little done. |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:31:45 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
Michael A. Terrell writes: So he gives more in dollars, but a LOT less in percentage of income or total worth. That's not true. He has already given away perhaps 6% of his total lifetime worth. How many ordinary people have given away $100,000? How many people _have_ $1,666,666.67 to give away 6% _OF_? (which, BTW, is probably a serious underestimate of Uncle Billy's "total lifetime worth".) If I have ten bucks in my pocket, and I give a street bum a buck, am I more generous than Bill Gates, since that's 10% of my entire wealth? And another thing - there's a serious misunderstanding going around that says that "size of pile of money" can in any way be related to "worth". Just ask Nicklaus: http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/real-progstory.html ;-P Cheers! Rich |
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JAD wrote:
if this had anything to do with Science hardware or electronics it would be interesting. Suffice it to say that anyone who gives anything without expecting something in return would be a great thing. However, charity, is the furthest thing from most peoples minds, that give huge amounts of money to anyone. Its all bout the business end of things. You are right. They get tax breaks for the big donations, but someone who gives money or other gifts that can barely scrape by is giving a lot more. When was the last time a billionaire given away every cent they owned? Its east to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Tom MacIntyre writes:
What about % of income above the level to comfortably sustain an individual/family? Someone earning $50k a year giving 6% is digging deeper than someone earning $500k giving 6%, at least potentially. If you play with figures long enough, you can make Bill Gates look stingy no matter how much money he gives away. But he is still giving away billions of dollars, and he only has $50 billion to play with. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Michael A. Terrell writes:
Its east to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day. How noble of you. I'm sure nobody else ever does that. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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John Doe writes:
Without question, someone giving away 6% of personal wealth that they could not spend in 10 lifetimes is meaningless. How much money does he have to give away before it meets your personal definition of meaningful? Spending 6% of your time helping other people is meaningful. Whether giving 6% of your income is charitable just depends. On whether you are hated as much as Bill Gates or not, apparently. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian writes:
If I have ten bucks in my pocket, and I give a street bum a buck, am I more generous than Bill Gates, since that's 10% of my entire wealth? It depends on many things. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?
"Never Mind" wrote in
: On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:46:23 -0700, do_not_spam_me wrote: I'm looking for a techical explanation. Somewhere in the Far East there is a big factory making ****loads of crystals. These crystals have a nominal spec, but are subject to tolerances. Somewhere in that factory these crystals are measured. Those closest to the designated frequency are shipped to Seiko, the farthest to Dell. Watches tend to spend a lot of time strapped to a temperature-regulated heat source (a human). PCs usually are not. As mentioned in previous (non-technical) replies, PCs are not often used as timepieces, so lower tolerance (cheaper) components will be used. I'll add that frequency of opperation will depend on supply voltage. So the difference between running on battery 2.5V and running on AC 5.0 to 3.3V (depending on chipset) will cause the clock to gain or loose time. Parasitic capacitance also affects opperational frequency. These are tightly controled in a watch, but are of little concern in a PC. Solution: Get a program called Dimension 4. It runs on startup, syncs your PC clock to an internet time server, then exits. It can work in other modes too. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Michael A. Terrell writes: Its easy to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day. How noble of you. I'm sure nobody else ever does that. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. I don't claim to be "noble", and I know that others have done it, but not enough have done it. I just did what I thought was right, at that time. I've been homeless twice in my life and I know what its like to go days at a time without food. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Gordon reeder writes:
Solution: Get a program called Dimension 4. It runs on startup, syncs your PC clock to an internet time server, then exits. It can work in other modes too. Note that XP already has provisions for automatic synchronization over the Net. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:57:39 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote: Michael A. Terrell writes: Its easy to give away $100,000 when its just pocket change. I have given away my last $5 to a friend who needed money to eat when I had no job, and not enough food to feed myself the next day. How noble of you. I'm sure nobody else ever does that. Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. I don't claim to be "noble", and I know that others have done it, but not enough have done it. I just did what I thought was right, at that time. I've been homeless twice in my life and I know what its like to go days at a time without food. I've been "homeless" too, and if you go "days without food" you're not begging properly. Did you know that it's possible to make $10.00-$20.00/hour begging in the streets? It's true, it takes a little bit of experience to get past that false pride, but hey, it's cash! And expecially[SIC] if you're demonstrably a crip, you could probably make better money than I am, who is only an ordinary ugly hairy guy. And sometimes people give me stuff like a whole baked chicken in a deli box, or 5/8 of a pizza, and more than once, someone has donated some pot. Guess I'm glad I'm not some kind of arrogant republican who's all stuck on keeping up appearances. One time, some guy asked, "What's the money for?" I said, "Drugs and alcohol." He gave me a $20.00 bill. Life is an adventure. I'm a mad metascientist, and my life is my laboratory. Why the **** would I want to try to do the same thing billions and billions of people have done before me, and wind up dead anyway? Guess I lucked out on the medical side - I'm a Veteran, so I can just trundle on down to Long Beach if I need medical attention. Which I don't need very often, probably because I love myself the way I am. :-) Good Luck! Rich |
the topic has gone over the edge
your begging the old fashioned way and you have internet access? Get with it
man, I'm a Technobum. I don't need to deal with the elements. I sit in blogs and virtual street corners, I make twice that. |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
snip BTW, Mr. Gates gives more money to charity each year than most of you will earn in a lifetime... I suppose some of you will consider that to be tax evasion.... I'm still not sure why my freaking clock runs slow...... lol.... Good day... He should give a goddam sight more than he does. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. |
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"Gary H" wrote in message .. . Michael A. Terrell wrote: snip BTW, Mr. Gates gives more money to charity each year than most of you will earn in a lifetime... I suppose some of you will consider that to be tax evasion.... I'm still not sure why my freaking clock runs slow...... lol.... Good day... He should give a goddam sight more than he does. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. whishing it was you don't you? Don't lie. You wish he was your best friend, nieghbor, your clone..... I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. |
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Gary H writes:
He should give a goddam sight more than he does. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. I'll call it envy, thinly disguised. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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JAD wrote:
"Gary H" wrote in message .. . Michael A. Terrell wrote: snip BTW, Mr. Gates gives more money to charity each year than most of you will earn in a lifetime... I suppose some of you will consider that to be tax evasion.... I'm still not sure why my freaking clock runs slow...... lol.... Good day... He should give a goddam sight more than he does. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. whishing it was you don't you? Don't lie. You wish he was your best friend, nieghbor, your clone..... I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. No, no no it's not true. :-) |
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Gary H wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: snip BTW, Mr. Gates gives more money to charity each year than most of you will earn in a lifetime... I suppose some of you will consider that to be tax evasion.... I'm still not sure why my freaking clock runs slow...... lol.... Good day... He should give a goddam sight more than he does. None of your business what he gives nor does it matter what you think he 'should'. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. And CPM was 'stolen' from Digital Equipment Corp RT-11 right down to pip but if you think MS-DOS looks like CPM then you never used CPM. On the other hand one wonders how he ran the 'stolen' 8 bit 8080 CMP code on 16 bit processors. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. He got rich because instead of bitching about it he went ahead and did it. I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. Yep. |
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David Maynard wrote:
Gary H wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: snip BTW, Mr. Gates gives more money to charity each year than most of you will earn in a lifetime... I suppose some of you will consider that to be tax evasion.... I'm still not sure why my freaking clock runs slow...... lol.... Good day... He should give a goddam sight more than he does. None of your business what he gives nor does it matter what you think he 'should'. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. And CPM was 'stolen' from Digital Equipment Corp RT-11 right down to pip but if you think MS-DOS looks like CPM then you never used CPM. On the other hand one wonders how he ran the 'stolen' 8 bit 8080 CMP code on 16 bit processors. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. He got rich because instead of bitching about it he went ahead and did it. I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. Yep. Well, opinions *are* allowed and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked and I'm not bitching I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you. |
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Rich Grise wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:57:39 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote: I don't claim to be "noble", and I know that others have done it, but not enough have done it. I just did what I thought was right, at that time. I've been homeless twice in my life and I know what its like to go days at a time without food. I've been "homeless" too, and if you go "days without food" you're not begging properly. I never begged. I found odd jobs and paid for my own food. I may have slept in my truck and taken showers at a relatives house, but I was never a bum. They were paid for their kindness by doing repair work on their homes, cars or whatever needed worked on. Did you know that it's possible to make $10.00-$20.00/hour begging in the streets? It's true, it takes a little bit of experience to get past that false pride, but hey, it's cash! And expecially[SIC] if you're demonstrably a crip, you could probably make better money than I am, who is only an ordinary ugly hairy guy. Around here that will get you arrested. The homeless live in the Ocala national forest and are treated like trash. A lot of them a re veterans we are trying to help find jobs and get back on their feet but most want nothing to do with anyone outside of their camouflaged camps. Yes, I have to use a cane, but the only thing I want from that is for people to leave me enough room to walk with it and not for them to blow their horn and scream obscenities when I walk across a marked crossing from the parking lot into a store. And sometimes people give me stuff like a whole baked chicken in a deli box, or 5/8 of a pizza, and more than once, someone has donated some pot. Guess I'm glad I'm not some kind of arrogant republican who's all stuck on keeping up appearances. One time, some guy asked, "What's the money for?" I said, "Drugs and alcohol." He gave me a $20.00 bill. Life is an adventure. I'm a mad metascientist, and my life is my laboratory. Why the **** would I want to try to do the same thing billions and billions of people have done before me, and wind up dead anyway? yeah, life is an adventure. With my health i would have never made it into the space program, but I built a lot of communications gear for NASA, including equipment that is in orbit. Guess I lucked out on the medical side - I'm a Veteran, so I can just trundle on down to Long Beach if I need medical attention. Which I don't need very often, probably because I love myself the way I am. :-) Good Luck! Rich I'm a veteran, too. US Army, 26T20 MOS. In fact, I'm on a 100% VA disability now but back in the mid '70s the VA refused to help me, but the "Soldiers and Sailor's Relief Fund" gave me a whole $25 to help pay my bills and told that was all I would ever get from them. I am on medication for high blood pressure, Diabetes, and severe swelling in my legs. The medication for the Diabetes was doubled six months ago, and a new drug was added last week. The consulting surgeon from Shands Hospital in Gainsville (A large teaching and research hospital across the street from the VA hospital) told me last month that they have decided not to operate on my carpal tunnel because they don't think it will help me. They also recommended against severing the nerves along the outside of my left arm because I would loose almost all feeling in my left arm. The nerve damage causes a constant tingle like a mild electric shock from my little finger up past my elbow. Then there is something wrong with my left leg. It will buckle without warning, so I use a cane most of the time. When I don't, I have to lock my knee and walk that way to keep from falling. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Michael A. Terrell writes:
I never begged. I found odd jobs and paid for my own food. I may have slept in my truck and taken showers at a relatives house, but I was never a bum. Beggars and bums are not synonymous. There are situations and times in which some people may be temporarily reduced to begging without this necessarily reflecting upon their habitual industry. It is true that someone who chooses voluntarily to make a career of begging over the long term may be somewhat of a bum, particularly in developed countries where so many other options exist. Around here that will get you arrested. The homeless live in the Ocala national forest and are treated like trash. A lot of them are veterans we are trying to help find jobs and get back on their feet but most want nothing to do with anyone outside of their camouflaged camps. Yours must be a very cruel society. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Gary H writes:
Well, opinions *are* allowed and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked and I'm not bitching I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. Many people refuse to believe that anyone could become more successful than themselves through purely legitimate means because it implies that these such a person might be smarter than they are, and they cannot accept this possibility. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Many people refuse to believe that anyone could become more successful than themselves through purely legitimate means because it implies that these such a person might be smarter than they are, and they cannot accept this possibility. Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me? I know Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question about it. I didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief with accomplices before and after the fact. Why do you have to make it complicated? :-) |
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Gary H writes:
Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me? I don't recall mentioning you. Hmm. I know Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question about it. I didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief with accomplices before and after the fact. Why do you have to make it complicated? Do you find "dime-store" psychology to be complicated? Bill Gates is no more a thief than any other corporate CEO. He happens to be the founder of a very successful company, and the founders of successful companies are routinely demonized, typically without any rational basis for doing so. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Gary H wrote:
David Maynard wrote: Gary H wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: snip BTW, Mr. Gates gives more money to charity each year than most of you will earn in a lifetime... I suppose some of you will consider that to be tax evasion.... I'm still not sure why my freaking clock runs slow...... lol.... Good day... He should give a goddam sight more than he does. None of your business what he gives nor does it matter what you think he 'should'. S.O.B. got rich by stealing CP/M and rewriting it slightly and calling it MS-DOS. And CPM was 'stolen' from Digital Equipment Corp RT-11 right down to pip but if you think MS-DOS looks like CPM then you never used CPM. On the other hand one wonders how he ran the 'stolen' 8 bit 8080 CMP code on 16 bit processors. Daddy was a big time lawyer and mommy was a big **** in government so, true to the American way, Billy got his own way and became very very rich. If some other poor S.O.B. off the street tried it, they would probably throw him so deep in the slammer they'd have to pump sunshine to him. He got rich because instead of bitching about it he went ahead and did it. I guess *you'll* call that *free* enterprise. Yep. Well, opinions *are* allowed Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business. and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS. and I'm not bitching It's precisely what you're doing. I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you. None of your business. |
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Gary H wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote: Many people refuse to believe that anyone could become more successful than themselves through purely legitimate means because it implies that these such a person might be smarter than they are, and they cannot accept this possibility. Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me? I know Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question about it. I didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief with accomplices before and after the fact. Why do you have to make it complicated? :-) Because you demonstrate the trait even in the denial of it. |
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David Maynard wrote:
Well, opinions *are* allowed Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business. Never said it was my business, just stated an opinion. and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS. It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire. and I'm not bitching It's precisely what you're doing. Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on all day. I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you. None of your business. True statement that. Damn, snotty little soul aren't you? |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gary H writes: Awwww, please don't practice your dime store psychology on me? I don't recall mentioning you. Hmm. Inferred. I know Bill Gates is much much smarter than I am, no question about it. I didn't say he wasn't. I merely said he was a thief with accomplices before and after the fact. Why do you have to make it complicated? Do you find "dime-store" psychology to be complicated? Nope, just useless. Bill Gates is no more a thief than any other corporate CEO. He happens to be the founder of a very successful company, and the founders of successful companies are routinely demonized, typically without any rational basis for doing so. Non sequitur. I wasn't discussing the matter nor comparing the individual to anyone else. Just making a statement. |
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David Maynard wrote:
Because you demonstrate the trait even in the denial of it. Jeeze, another would be amateur psychologist. Lawd hep us!! |
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Gary H wrote:
David Maynard wrote: Well, opinions *are* allowed Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business. Never said it was my business, You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any of your business. just stated an opinion. And I just stated it's none of your business. and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS. It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire. You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to do your supporting research. and I'm not bitching It's precisely what you're doing. Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on all day. It's self evident. I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you. None of your business. True statement that. Damn, snotty little soul aren't you? I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief, liar, whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or some other pejorative. |
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David Maynard wrote:
Gary H wrote: David Maynard wrote: Well, opinions *are* allowed Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business. Never said it was my business, You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any of your business. just stated an opinion. And I just stated it's none of your business. and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS. It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire. You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to do your supporting research. and I'm not bitching It's precisely what you're doing. Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on all day. It's self evident. I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you. None of your business. True statement that. Damn, snotty little soul aren't you? I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief, liar, whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or some other pejorative. I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments?? I find that most folks like the BGs of the world, you know, the Rockefellers and such... Their money always seems to become more respectable, the older it gets. As for me, just a point of view and that's about as simple as it gets. If you feel you have to jump to the defense of these poor helpless folks, then go for it. Shrug. Defend as much as you wish, go to war for them, bow and pray to them, so what. It still boils down to opinion and all the arguing in the world isn't going to change that. When it comes to folks like them, you would like to be able to kiss ass, I'd like to be able to kick ass. See, just a different point of view. Get over it. So, further response on this one would seem unnecessary on my part. Have a good day, maybe Bill will send you a Christmas card. Postage due. :-) |
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"Gary H" wrote in message ... David Maynard wrote: Gary H wrote: David Maynard wrote: Well, opinions *are* allowed Opinions are like rear ends: everybody's got one. But I didn't say you couldn't have an 'opinion'. I said it was none of your business. Never said it was my business, You didn't have to as it's implicit in your 'critique', as if it's any of your business. just stated an opinion. And I just stated it's none of your business. and no, he got rich because mom and pop made sure things were fast-tracked Sure. Go ahead and tell me how "mom and pop" coerced mega-giant IBM into contracting Microsoft for Basic and DOS. It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire. You're the one making the claim and the accusation. It's not up to me to do your supporting research. and I'm not bitching It's precisely what you're doing. Did, didn't, did, didn't. There's a stupid argument that could go on all day. It's self evident. I've got plenty to keep me warm and happy. How about you. None of your business. True statement that. Damn, snotty little soul aren't you? I find it mildly amusing when those who spit out accusations (thief, liar, whatever) then accuse perceived 'defenders' of being 'snotty', or some other pejorative. I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments?? I find that most folks like the BGs of the world, you know, the Rockefellers and such... Their money always seems to become more respectable, the older it gets. As for me, just a point of view and that's about as simple as it gets. If you feel you have to jump to the defense of these poor helpless folks, then go for it. Shrug. Defend as much as you wish, go to war for them, bow and pray to them, so what. It still boils down to opinion and all the arguing in the world isn't going to change that. When it comes to folks like them, you would like to be able to kiss ass, I'd like to be able to kick ass. See, just a different point of view. Get over it. So, further response on this one would seem unnecessary on my part. Have a good day, maybe Bill will send you a Christmas card. Postage due. :-) don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you listening? Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping when someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought out very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well its nonsense. |
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JAD wrote:
don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you listening? Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping when someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought out very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well its nonsense. Ah well it's criticism based on many writings and rulings (I suppose) by "experts". He's ended up in court in the US (antitrust, guilty) and in Europe (antitrust, guilty) fined 32 million by South Korea's FTC (Fair Trade Commission, guilty) Yeah, self made man, always by the book, never stiffed anyone. Typical US mentality. Money first then trickle down to all the other mundane stuff kicking and screaming all the way. Gimme a break. Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast he woulda been sucked out of his socks. |
The truth about OS/2!!! [ Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?]
"Gary H" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: don't feel left out, maybe some bum will give you a card. Rich G are you listening? Your 'opinion spouts as envy. Why do you think its bowing , worshiping when someone takes the opposite side and defends someone who isn't around to defend himself? Your opinion is based on 'innuendo and is not thought out very well. And bashing someone without the facts straight is ....well its nonsense. Ah well it's criticism based on many writings and rulings (I suppose) by "experts". He's ended up in court in the US (antitrust, guilty) and in Europe (antitrust, guilty) fined 32 million by South Korea's FTC (Fair Trade Commission, guilty) Yeah, self made man, always by the book, never stiffed anyone. Typical US mentality. Money first then trickle down to all the other mundane stuff kicking and screaming all the way. Gimme a break. Ahhhh I C now where its coming from...... and here I thought it actually had something to do with money and Bill Gates........ Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast he woulda been sucked out of his socks. |
The truth about OS/2!!! [ Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?]
Gary H writes:
It's available everywhere. Find it yourself and post if you desire. Those of us who were there are not deceived by revisionist histories. In those days, it was big bad IBM versus tiny helpless Microsoft, not the other way around. Microsoft didn't (and couldn't) twist IBM's arm. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
The truth about OS/2!!! [ Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?]
Gary H writes:
I find it mildly amusing when some people hang out in these NGs simply to show off their vocabularies and to instigate arguments?? Are you asking or asserting? Some people have naturally rich vocabularies. The fact that they use them doesn't mean that they are showing off, although it might seem that way to people with more limited vocabularies. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
The truth about OS/2!!! [ Why aren't computer clocks as accurate as cheap quartz watches?]
Gary H writes:
Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast he woulda been sucked out of his socks. No, he would not. Nothing has really changed in that respect. He didn't really "pull" anything to begin with, and the consequences of what he did or did not do would not be different today. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gary H writes: Willey was lucky (and smart). He grabbed CP/M before the market conditions were what they are today. had he pulled something like that in recent times, he'd have been in a courtroom so fast he woulda been sucked out of his socks. No, he would not. Nothing has really changed in that respect. He didn't really "pull" anything to begin with, and the consequences of what he did or did not do would not be different today. :-) As you wish. |
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