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I have owned a shop for years and because the 27" and smaller TV set are
getting so cheap , I'm thinking about expanding to the projection and plasma
TVs. anyone do this type of work? do you do it mainly at the house or do you
take in the whole TV? also, is it mainly a board replacement from someone
like PTS type of situation? thanks. thom


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It is mostly component level repair in the house. ALL the newer HDTV
sets REQUIRE special interfaces and factory authorization in order to
even be able to get the service manuals. Plasma sets are all board
level repair via the manufacture, NOT PTS. The least expensive boards
on the Plasma sets are typically $350 authorized servicer cost.

I would expect you will have a significant investment in order to start
doing repairs on anything current technology.

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It is mostly component level repair in the house. ALL the newer HDTV
sets REQUIRE special interfaces and factory authorization in order to
even be able to get the service manuals. Plasma sets are all board
level repair via the manufacture, NOT PTS. The least expensive boards
on the Plasma sets are typically $350 authorized servicer cost.

I would expect you will have a significant investment in order to start
doing repairs on anything current technology.

..
bout what i expected to hear. are you in the tv repair business? i got in
one plasma lately made by samsung. ended up having one main pcb that had to
be replaced. it WAS expensive. i didn't need a special interface. it just
went in without any calibration. now PTS says they are carrying HDTV
boards. are you finding thats not gonna be the case? if its board level
repair on the plasmas then i wouldn't need any service manuals. gotta admit
i can't do component level in the house. hats off to tech who can. i've met
a few. was impressed for sure.





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What special interfaces are you talking about on ALL newer HDTVs? Which
manufacturers require factory authorization to get service manuals? I
service many major brands and don't have problems getting manuals for most
of them. I use no special interfaces on the sets that I service. Computer
monitors and many of the LCD and DLP projectors are another matter, but for
consumer HDTV most are not that big a problem.

Also, many repairs are not done in the home. Lots of sets have light boxes
or easily removable chassis and CRTs. We do minor repairs in the home and
pull to shop for majors, leaving only final alignments on reinstall.

I can't imagine that anyone is still profitable in the consumer TV business
not working on PTV.

Leonard

wrote in message
ups.com...
It is mostly component level repair in the house. ALL the newer HDTV
sets REQUIRE special interfaces and factory authorization in order to
even be able to get the service manuals. Plasma sets are all board
level repair via the manufacture, NOT PTS. The least expensive boards
on the Plasma sets are typically $350 authorized servicer cost.

I would expect you will have a significant investment in order to start
doing repairs on anything current technology.



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Agreed: The market place has change radically since the small shops could
even make a modest income repairing just the direct view small size teles.
Modern devices are a bit more complex, require a bit more diligence in
diagnostics and repair, but are not overly intimidating.
As the other posters noted, service manuals, almost a total requirement to
work on the newer technologies, are available from the manufacturers
normally with a paid subscription. Many manufacturers require that you are
authorized to repair their specific products before allowing you to
purchase that literature.
The tools are basically the same as in repair of direct view with some
rather expensive notations specific to RPTV, PLASMA, And the DLP/LCD sets.
You already have gotten your feet wet doing the Samsung Plasma Repair,
continue on with as much tutorial training you can get and try to become
authorized for a couple of the brands.
Our facilities do almost 95% of the repairs on site, in the home, place of
business, etc. Inclusive of CRT Replacement (Multiple in RPTV at times),
light engines, DMD boards, Etc. The combination units are preferred to have
serviced on a bench level process however. Good Luck.

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:_Uzpe.11538$Hj.2415@lakeread02...
What special interfaces are you talking about on ALL newer HDTVs? Which
manufacturers require factory authorization to get service manuals? I
service many major brands and don't have problems getting manuals for most
of them. I use no special interfaces on the sets that I service.
Computer
monitors and many of the LCD and DLP projectors are another matter, but
for
consumer HDTV most are not that big a problem.

Also, many repairs are not done in the home. Lots of sets have light
boxes
or easily removable chassis and CRTs. We do minor repairs in the home and
pull to shop for majors, leaving only final alignments on reinstall.

I can't imagine that anyone is still profitable in the consumer TV
business
not working on PTV.

Leonard

wrote in message
ups.com...
It is mostly component level repair in the house. ALL the newer HDTV
sets REQUIRE special interfaces and factory authorization in order to
even be able to get the service manuals. Plasma sets are all board
level repair via the manufacture, NOT PTS. The least expensive boards
on the Plasma sets are typically $350 authorized servicer cost.

I would expect you will have a significant investment in order to start
doing repairs on anything current technology.







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this is great guys. glad to hear from some other shop owners. because of my
back and the changing market, i got training and started working on
computers in addition to my consumer electronics. this has taken up the
slack but maybe not enough. can you guys know how or where i can get
training in the PTV, DLP and plasma? maybe a book or two would be sufficient
.. i have 25 years of experience in the direct view sets.


"Art" wrote in message
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Agreed: The market place has change radically since the small shops could
even make a modest income repairing just the direct view small size
teles. Modern devices are a bit more complex, require a bit more
diligence in diagnostics and repair, but are not overly intimidating.
As the other posters noted, service manuals, almost a total requirement
to work on the newer technologies, are available from the manufacturers
normally with a paid subscription. Many manufacturers require that you
are authorized to repair their specific products before allowing you to
purchase that literature.
The tools are basically the same as in repair of direct view with some
rather expensive notations specific to RPTV, PLASMA, And the DLP/LCD
sets. You already have gotten your feet wet doing the Samsung Plasma
Repair, continue on with as much tutorial training you can get and try to
become authorized for a couple of the brands.
Our facilities do almost 95% of the repairs on site, in the home, place of
business, etc. Inclusive of CRT Replacement (Multiple in RPTV at times),
light engines, DMD boards, Etc. The combination units are preferred to
have serviced on a bench level process however. Good Luck.

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:_Uzpe.11538$Hj.2415@lakeread02...
What special interfaces are you talking about on ALL newer HDTVs? Which
manufacturers require factory authorization to get service manuals? I
service many major brands and don't have problems getting manuals for
most
of them. I use no special interfaces on the sets that I service.
Computer
monitors and many of the LCD and DLP projectors are another matter, but
for
consumer HDTV most are not that big a problem.

Also, many repairs are not done in the home. Lots of sets have light
boxes
or easily removable chassis and CRTs. We do minor repairs in the home
and
pull to shop for majors, leaving only final alignments on reinstall.

I can't imagine that anyone is still profitable in the consumer TV
business
not working on PTV.

Leonard

wrote in message
ups.com...
It is mostly component level repair in the house. ALL the newer HDTV
sets REQUIRE special interfaces and factory authorization in order to
even be able to get the service manuals. Plasma sets are all board
level repair via the manufacture, NOT PTS. The least expensive boards
on the Plasma sets are typically $350 authorized servicer cost.

I would expect you will have a significant investment in order to start
doing repairs on anything current technology.







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http://clix.to/aptt Check this site out, may be of interest, or point you in
the right directions. Good Luck
"Thomas" wrote in message
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this is great guys. glad to hear from some other shop owners. because of
my back and the changing market, i got training and started working on
computers in addition to my consumer electronics. this has taken up the
slack but maybe not enough. can you guys know how or where i can get
training in the PTV, DLP and plasma? maybe a book or two would be
sufficient . i have 25 years of experience in the direct view sets.


"Art" wrote in message
...
Agreed: The market place has change radically since the small shops
could even make a modest income repairing just the direct view small
size teles. Modern devices are a bit more complex, require a bit more
diligence in diagnostics and repair, but are not overly intimidating.
As the other posters noted, service manuals, almost a total requirement
to work on the newer technologies, are available from the manufacturers
normally with a paid subscription. Many manufacturers require that you
are authorized to repair their specific products before allowing you to
purchase that literature.
The tools are basically the same as in repair of direct view with some
rather expensive notations specific to RPTV, PLASMA, And the DLP/LCD
sets. You already have gotten your feet wet doing the Samsung Plasma
Repair, continue on with as much tutorial training you can get and try
to become authorized for a couple of the brands.
Our facilities do almost 95% of the repairs on site, in the home, place
of business, etc. Inclusive of CRT Replacement (Multiple in RPTV at
times), light engines, DMD boards, Etc. The combination units are
preferred to have serviced on a bench level process however. Good Luck.

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:_Uzpe.11538$Hj.2415@lakeread02...
What special interfaces are you talking about on ALL newer HDTVs? Which
manufacturers require factory authorization to get service manuals? I
service many major brands and don't have problems getting manuals for
most
of them. I use no special interfaces on the sets that I service.
Computer
monitors and many of the LCD and DLP projectors are another matter, but
for
consumer HDTV most are not that big a problem.

Also, many repairs are not done in the home. Lots of sets have light
boxes
or easily removable chassis and CRTs. We do minor repairs in the home
and
pull to shop for majors, leaving only final alignments on reinstall.

I can't imagine that anyone is still profitable in the consumer TV
business
not working on PTV.

Leonard

wrote in message
ups.com...
It is mostly component level repair in the house. ALL the newer HDTV
sets REQUIRE special interfaces and factory authorization in order to
even be able to get the service manuals. Plasma sets are all board
level repair via the manufacture, NOT PTS. The least expensive boards
on the Plasma sets are typically $350 authorized servicer cost.

I would expect you will have a significant investment in order to start
doing repairs on anything current technology.









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