Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

See attachment.

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Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:00:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

See attachment.

...Jim Thompson

I see some distortion in #2 so #3 must be "improved" ;)

Cheers

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:35:40 -0400, Martin Riddle
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:00:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

See attachment.

...Jim Thompson

I see some distortion in #2 so #3 must be "improved" ;)

Cheers

Nope, just the opposite.

Input was 40.1kHz square wave, 0.25% off of design center. Delay
measured at zero crossing (with a Probe cursor so I could get a
numerical read-out)... 178ns (improved), 236ns (normal), 10ns time
step.

"Cute" idea, but non-productive.

Larkin will now claim that whatever I did, to translate his idea to
40kHz, was not what he meant.

But he'll not ever demonstrate what he meant... at least in a fashion
that can be independently verified.

'Tis a shame that we can't actually have _critical_ discussions of
design ideas here :-(

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:28:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:35:40 -0400, Martin Riddle
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:00:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

See attachment.

...Jim Thompson

I see some distortion in #2 so #3 must be "improved" ;)

Cheers

Nope, just the opposite.

Input was 40.1kHz square wave, 0.25% off of design center. Delay
measured at zero crossing (with a Probe cursor so I could get a
numerical read-out)... 178ns (improved), 236ns (normal), 10ns time
step.

"Cute" idea, but non-productive.

Larkin will now claim that whatever I did, to translate his idea to
40kHz, was not what he meant.

But he'll not ever demonstrate what he meant... at least in a fashion
that can be independently verified.

'Tis a shame that we can't actually have _critical_ discussions of
design ideas here :-(

...Jim Thompson

Question for students...

How and WHY might this behave differently with a sine wave input?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? -WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

Le Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:28:55 -0700, Jim Thompson a écrit:

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:35:40 -0400, Martin Riddle
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:00:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

See attachment.

...Jim Thompson

I see some distortion in #2 so #3 must be "improved" ;)

Cheers

Nope, just the opposite.

Input was 40.1kHz square wave, 0.25% off of design center. Delay
measured at zero crossing (with a Probe cursor so I could get a
numerical read-out)... 178ns (improved), 236ns (normal), 10ns time step.

"Cute" idea, but non-productive.

Larkin will now claim that whatever I did, to translate his idea to
40kHz, was not what he meant.

But he'll not ever demonstrate what he meant... at least in a fashion
that can be independently verified.

'Tis a shame that we can't actually have _critical_ discussions of
design ideas here :-(



You're doing your best to kill the will...


--
Thanks,
Fred.

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On 17 Aug 2013 09:29:33 GMT, Fred Bartoli
wrote:

Le Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:28:55 -0700, Jim Thompson a écrit:

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:35:40 -0400, Martin Riddle
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:00:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

See attachment.

...Jim Thompson

I see some distortion in #2 so #3 must be "improved" ;)

Cheers

Nope, just the opposite.

Input was 40.1kHz square wave, 0.25% off of design center. Delay
measured at zero crossing (with a Probe cursor so I could get a
numerical read-out)... 178ns (improved), 236ns (normal), 10ns time step.

"Cute" idea, but non-productive.

Larkin will now claim that whatever I did, to translate his idea to
40kHz, was not what he meant.

But he'll not ever demonstrate what he meant... at least in a fashion
that can be independently verified.

'Tis a shame that we can't actually have _critical_ discussions of
design ideas here :-(



You're doing your best to kill the will...

So I can't criticize? If my criticisms contain errors please point
them out.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

Jim Thompson wrote:
On 17 Aug 2013 09:29:33 GMT, Fred Bartoli
wrote:

You're doing your best to kill the will...

So I can't criticize? If my criticisms contain errors please point
them out.

The error is that you're criticizing what you expect someone to do in the
future. Nobody would bother trying.


--

Reply in group, but if emailing remove the last word.

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:14:14 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:
On 17 Aug 2013 09:29:33 GMT, Fred Bartoli
wrote:

You're doing your best to kill the will...

So I can't criticize? If my criticisms contain errors please point
them out.

The error is that you're criticizing what you expect someone to do in the
future. Nobody would bother trying.

Only Larkin's classic "go hide in the corner". Does he ever deliver
proof? Nope.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:33:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:14:14 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:
On 17 Aug 2013 09:29:33 GMT, Fred Bartoli
wrote:

You're doing your best to kill the will...

So I can't criticize? If my criticisms contain errors please point
them out.

The error is that you're criticizing what you expect someone to do in the
future. Nobody would bother trying.

Only Larkin's classic "go hide in the corner". Does he ever deliver
proof? Nope.


He's calling 'Proof', 'Math' now. Which I have never seen him do.

;D

Cheers

Which Output Is With Improved Phase Shift? - WhichOutputIsWithImprovedPhaseShift.pdf
 

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:23 -0400, Martin Riddle
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:33:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:14:14 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:
On 17 Aug 2013 09:29:33 GMT, Fred Bartoli
wrote:

You're doing your best to kill the will...

So I can't criticize? If my criticisms contain errors please point
them out.

The error is that you're criticizing what you expect someone to do in the
future. Nobody would bother trying.

Only Larkin's classic "go hide in the corner". Does he ever deliver
proof? Nope.


He's calling 'Proof', 'Math' now. Which I have never seen him do.

;D

Cheers

:-}

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.