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Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


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Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


On Tuesday I spent an hour tying to un-wedge a failed software install on 7
the next coputer in front of me had vists. I never thought I'd be glad to
see Vista.

Win 7 - Makes vista look good.

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http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...5-468ee51e9484

Among others.

On the plus side, the advantage to using an operating system that millions
of others use: it doesn't matter what kind of ****ed up problem you're
having, someone's had it before, and most even fixed it. In my day, I've
done a number of registry hacks with relative confidence...and a fair
backing of support articles. JFGI.

Tim

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"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.




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On 2/7/2013 1:37 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even remotely
like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


What I did was take ownership of everything.

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=w...pe=&as_rights=



File sharing can also be a problem with other operating systems and
smart phones.

To share files with axim and linux, have to edit the registry
Please try the following in Windows 7:

Open Registry Editor, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa\

Create LMCompatibilityLevel (DWord) and set the value to 1


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mike wrote:
On 2/7/2013 1:37 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even remotely
like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


What I did was take ownership of everything.

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=w...pe=&as_rights=




File sharing can also be a problem with other operating systems and
smart phones.

To share files with axim and linux, have to edit the registry
Please try the following in Windows 7:

Open Registry Editor, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa\

Create LMCompatibilityLevel (DWord) and set the value to 1


The Win7 drive, which works and CHKDSK finds no problems is AFU - -
Partinfo.EXE from Partition Magic shows the following garbage:

Disk 0: 18365 Cylinders, 224 Heads, 19 Sectors/Track.
========================== Partition Tables =========================
Partition -----Begin---- ------End----- Start Num
Sector # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS Cyl Head Sect Sect Sects
--------- - ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- --------- ---------
0 0 80 0 32 33 07 12 223 19 2048 204800
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 32.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 33.
Error #116: Starting sector of partition is inconsistent.
ulStartSect = 2048
Begin C,H,S = 640
Error #110: Number of sectors in partition is inconsistent.
ucSectors = 204800
end - begin = 54688
0 1 00 12 223 20 0C 1023 254 63 206848 36657152
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 1 00 48 134 15 0C 8661 146 10 206848 36657152
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 134.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 15.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 146.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 10.
0 2 00 1023 254 63 07 1023 254 63 36864000 41297920
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 2 00 8661 146 11 0718365 25 5 36864000 41297920
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 146.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 11.
Error #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
ucEndCylinder (18365) must be less than 18365.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 25.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 5.
================================================== ============================
Disk 0: 38164.8 Megabytes
============================ Partition Information
===========================
Volume Partition Partition Start
Total
Letter:Label Type Status Size MB Sector # Sector
Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- --------- - ---------
---------
NTFS Pri,Boot 100.0 0 0 2048
204800
*:NO NAME FAT32X Pri 17899.0 0 1 206848
36657152
NTFS Pri 20165.0 0 2 36864000
41297920
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x800, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 2048 (0x00000800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 204799 (0x31FFF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 8533 (0x2155)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x606C6EC06C6E9098
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x32800, Type: FAT32
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSDOS5.0
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 32
5. Reserved Sectors: 6688
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 19 (0x0013)
12. Number of Heads: 224 (0x00E0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 206848 (0x00032800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 36657152 (0x022F5800)
15. Big Sectors Per FAT: 8944
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0x0000
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x00000002)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 41
25. Serial Number: 0xC4B38ED0
26. Volume Name: NO NAME
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x2328000, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 36864000 (0x02328000)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 41297919 (0x27627FF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 786432 (0xC0000)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x220088B100888D8B
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55




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On 2/8/2013 3:25 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
mike wrote:
On 2/7/2013 1:37 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even remotely
like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


What I did was take ownership of everything.

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=w...pe=&as_rights=





File sharing can also be a problem with other operating systems and
smart phones.

To share files with axim and linux, have to edit the registry
Please try the following in Windows 7:

Open Registry Editor, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa\

Create LMCompatibilityLevel (DWord) and set the value to 1


The Win7 drive, which works and CHKDSK finds no problems is AFU - -
Partinfo.EXE from Partition Magic shows the following garbage:

Disk 0: 18365 Cylinders, 224 Heads, 19 Sectors/Track.
========================== Partition Tables =========================
Partition -----Begin---- ------End----- Start Num
Sector # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS Cyl Head Sect Sect Sects
--------- - ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- --------- ---------
0 0 80 0 32 33 07 12 223 19 2048 204800
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 32.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 33.
Error #116: Starting sector of partition is inconsistent.
ulStartSect = 2048
Begin C,H,S = 640
Error #110: Number of sectors in partition is inconsistent.
ucSectors = 204800
end - begin = 54688
0 1 00 12 223 20 0C 1023 254 63 206848 36657152
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 1 00 48 134 15 0C 8661 146 10 206848 36657152
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 134.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 15.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 146.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 10.
0 2 00 1023 254 63 07 1023 254 63 36864000 41297920
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 2 00 8661 146 11 0718365 25 5 36864000 41297920
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 146.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 11.
Error #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
ucEndCylinder (18365) must be less than 18365.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 25.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 5.
================================================== ============================

Disk 0: 38164.8 Megabytes
============================ Partition Information
===========================
Volume Partition Partition Start Total
Letter:Label Type Status Size MB Sector # Sector Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- --------- - ---------
---------
NTFS Pri,Boot 100.0 0 0 2048 204800
*:NO NAME FAT32X Pri 17899.0 0 1 206848 36657152
NTFS Pri 20165.0 0 2 36864000 41297920
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x800, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 2048 (0x00000800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 204799 (0x31FFF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 8533 (0x2155)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x606C6EC06C6E9098
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x32800, Type: FAT32
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSDOS5.0
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 32
5. Reserved Sectors: 6688
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 19 (0x0013)
12. Number of Heads: 224 (0x00E0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 206848 (0x00032800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 36657152 (0x022F5800)
15. Big Sectors Per FAT: 8944
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0x0000
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x00000002)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 41
25. Serial Number: 0xC4B38ED0
26. Volume Name: NO NAME
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x2328000, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 36864000 (0x02328000)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 41297919 (0x27627FF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 786432 (0xC0000)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x220088B100888D8B
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55


I know zip about all the numbers, but I can tell you one thing...
If you let windows 7 install and reformat/repartition the hard drive,
you get a hidden partition at the beginning. Win7 uses it for some stuff
that I never need. I think it also played an incidental role in copy
protection.
And it played havoc with older programs that did image
backups and older disk analysis programs, cuz they weren't able to
properly map the physical partitions to the logical ones. That may
be cured by more recent versions.

My solution was to eliminate it.
If you use a different program, like Gparted run from a live linux CD,
you cans set up your NTFS partitions. Tell win7 installer to use
the existing partitions and you'll get an installation without that
hidden partition. Life got simpler after that.
AFAIK, the only thing I lost was the feature that lets you automagically
mount encrypted thumb drives. Never wanted that anyway.
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"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.



I got that "What can I do if........." box when I installed 7 - it was for a
Dell all in one from Freecycle, the previous owner said there were no
drivers for it on Win7.

I clicked that "What can I do if........." - IIRC it took me to a dialogue
box with an option to "install with optimal defaults" - I've been using the
Dell all for one ever since.

You do have to make at least one pass of attempting to install the product's
drivers, and it sometimes takes a bit of trial & error to provoke the What
can......... box to appear when you want it.

A bit of perseverance usually pays off.

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mike wrote:
On 2/8/2013 3:25 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
mike wrote:
On 2/7/2013 1:37 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even remotely
like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


What I did was take ownership of everything.

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=w...pe=&as_rights=






File sharing can also be a problem with other operating systems and
smart phones.

To share files with axim and linux, have to edit the registry
Please try the following in Windows 7:

Open Registry Editor, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa\

Create LMCompatibilityLevel (DWord) and set the value to 1


The Win7 drive, which works and CHKDSK finds no problems is AFU - -
Partinfo.EXE from Partition Magic shows the following garbage:

Disk 0: 18365 Cylinders, 224 Heads, 19 Sectors/Track.
========================== Partition Tables =========================
Partition -----Begin---- ------End----- Start Num
Sector # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS Cyl Head Sect Sect Sects
--------- - ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- --------- ---------
0 0 80 0 32 33 07 12 223 19 2048 204800
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 32.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 33.
Error #116: Starting sector of partition is inconsistent.
ulStartSect = 2048
Begin C,H,S = 640
Error #110: Number of sectors in partition is inconsistent.
ucSectors = 204800
end - begin = 54688
0 1 00 12 223 20 0C 1023 254 63 206848 36657152
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 1 00 48 134 15 0C 8661 146 10 206848 36657152
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 134.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 15.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 146.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 10.
0 2 00 1023 254 63 07 1023 254 63 36864000 41297920
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 2 00 8661 146 11 0718365 25 5 36864000 41297920
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 146.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 11.
Error #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
ucEndCylinder (18365) must be less than 18365.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 25.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 5.
================================================== ============================


Disk 0: 38164.8 Megabytes
============================ Partition Information
===========================
Volume Partition Partition Start Total
Letter:Label Type Status Size MB Sector # Sector Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- --------- - ---------
---------
NTFS Pri,Boot 100.0 0 0 2048 204800
*:NO NAME FAT32X Pri 17899.0 0 1 206848 36657152
NTFS Pri 20165.0 0 2 36864000 41297920
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x800, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 2048 (0x00000800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 204799 (0x31FFF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 8533 (0x2155)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x606C6EC06C6E9098
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x32800, Type: FAT32
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSDOS5.0
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 32
5. Reserved Sectors: 6688
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 19 (0x0013)
12. Number of Heads: 224 (0x00E0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 206848 (0x00032800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 36657152 (0x022F5800)
15. Big Sectors Per FAT: 8944
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0x0000
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x00000002)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 41
25. Serial Number: 0xC4B38ED0
26. Volume Name: NO NAME
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x2328000, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 36864000 (0x02328000)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 41297919 (0x27627FF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 786432 (0xC0000)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x220088B100888D8B
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55


I know zip about all the numbers, but I can tell you one thing...
If you let windows 7 install and reformat/repartition the hard drive,
you get a hidden partition at the beginning. Win7 uses it for some stuff
that I never need. I think it also played an incidental role in copy
protection.
And it played havoc with older programs that did image
backups and older disk analysis programs, cuz they weren't able to
properly map the physical partitions to the logical ones. That may
be cured by more recent versions.

My solution was to eliminate it.
If you use a different program, like Gparted run from a live linux CD,
you cans set up your NTFS partitions. Tell win7 installer to use
the existing partitions and you'll get an installation without that
hidden partition. Life got simpler after that.
AFAIK, the only thing I lost was the feature that lets you automagically
mount encrypted thumb drives. Never wanted that anyway.

I installed Win7 from scratch on an empty drive and did no
reformatting / repartitioning.
Yes,i saw the 100Mb "system" _partition_ first; a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).
So, i should start over and make a HD with only partitions i want?

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"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.



I got that "What can I do if........." box when I installed 7 - it was
for a Dell all in one from Freecycle, the previous owner said there were
no drivers for it on Win7.

I clicked that "What can I do if........." - IIRC it took me to a
dialogue box with an option to "install with optimal defaults" - I've
been using the Dell all for one ever since.

You do have to make at least one pass of attempting to install the
product's drivers, and it sometimes takes a bit of trial & error to
provoke the What can......... box to appear when you want it.

A bit of perseverance usually pays off.

Well, i did install the "obsolete" drivers for sound and multimedia,
Win7 complained but seemingly took them.
A few boots later i had to do them again; now listed twice in the
hardware list..

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On 2/10/2013 5:48 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
mike wrote:
On 2/8/2013 3:25 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
mike wrote:
On 2/7/2013 1:37 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely
like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller:
PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy
now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually
as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


What I did was take ownership of everything.

https://www.google.com/search?as_q=w...pe=&as_rights=







File sharing can also be a problem with other operating systems and
smart phones.

To share files with axim and linux, have to edit the registry
Please try the following in Windows 7:

Open Registry Editor, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa\

Create LMCompatibilityLevel (DWord) and set the value to 1


The Win7 drive, which works and CHKDSK finds no problems is AFU - -
Partinfo.EXE from Partition Magic shows the following garbage:

Disk 0: 18365 Cylinders, 224 Heads, 19 Sectors/Track.
========================== Partition Tables =========================
Partition -----Begin---- ------End----- Start Num
Sector # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS Cyl Head Sect Sect Sects
--------- - ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- --------- ---------
0 0 80 0 32 33 07 12 223 19 2048 204800
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 32.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 33.
Error #116: Starting sector of partition is inconsistent.
ulStartSect = 2048
Begin C,H,S = 640
Error #110: Number of sectors in partition is inconsistent.
ucSectors = 204800
end - begin = 54688
0 1 00 12 223 20 0C 1023 254 63 206848 36657152
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 1 00 48 134 15 0C 8661 146 10 206848 36657152
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 134.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 15.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 146.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 10.
0 2 00 1023 254 63 07 1023 254 63 36864000 41297920
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values a
0 2 00 8661 146 11 0718365 25 5 36864000 41297920
Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 146.
Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 11.
Error #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
ucEndCylinder (18365) must be less than 18365.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 25.
Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 5.
================================================== ============================



Disk 0: 38164.8 Megabytes
============================ Partition Information
===========================
Volume Partition Partition Start Total
Letter:Label Type Status Size MB Sector # Sector Sectors
------------- --------------- -------- ------- --------- - ---------
---------
NTFS Pri,Boot 100.0 0 0 2048 204800
*:NO NAME FAT32X Pri 17899.0 0 1 206848 36657152
NTFS Pri 20165.0 0 2 36864000 41297920
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x800, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 2048 (0x00000800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 204799 (0x31FFF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 8533 (0x2155)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x606C6EC06C6E9098
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x32800, Type: FAT32
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSDOS5.0
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 32
5. Reserved Sectors: 6688
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 19 (0x0013)
12. Number of Heads: 224 (0x00E0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 206848 (0x00032800)
14. Big Total Sectors: 36657152 (0x022F5800)
15. Big Sectors Per FAT: 8944
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0x0000
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x00000002)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 41
25. Serial Number: 0xC4B38ED0
26. Volume Name: NO NAME
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signatu 0xAA55
================================================== ======================
Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x2328000, Type: NTFS
================================================== ======================
1. Jump: EB 52 90
2. OEM Name: NTFS
3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
5. Reserved Sectors: 0
6. Number of FAT's: 0
7. Root Dir Entries: 0
8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
9. Media Descriptor: 248
10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
13. Hidden Sectors: 36864000 (0x02328000)
14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
16. Total NTFS Sectors: 41297919 (0x27627FF)
17. MFT Start Cluster: 786432 (0xC0000)
18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
19. Clusters per FRS: 246
20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
21. Serial Number: 0x220088B100888D8B
22. Checksum: 0x00000000
23. Boot Signatu 0xAA55


I know zip about all the numbers, but I can tell you one thing...
If you let windows 7 install and reformat/repartition the hard drive,
you get a hidden partition at the beginning. Win7 uses it for some stuff
that I never need. I think it also played an incidental role in copy
protection.
And it played havoc with older programs that did image
backups and older disk analysis programs, cuz they weren't able to
properly map the physical partitions to the logical ones. That may
be cured by more recent versions.

My solution was to eliminate it.
If you use a different program, like Gparted run from a live linux CD,
you cans set up your NTFS partitions. Tell win7 installer to use
the existing partitions and you'll get an installation without that
hidden partition. Life got simpler after that.
AFAIK, the only thing I lost was the feature that lets you automagically
mount encrypted thumb drives. Never wanted that anyway.

I installed Win7 from scratch on an empty drive and did no reformatting
/ repartitioning.
Yes,i saw the 100Mb "system" _partition_ first; a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).
So, i should start over and make a HD with only partitions i want?


Well, that's what I did, but you may have other requirements.
It's more than just a waste of space. It's confusing to some older
programs that depend on a different mapping between physical and logical
partitions.

There seems to be no way to have win7 partition without that extra
thing at the start. Have to use some other partitioning system.
Bootable live GPARTED CD works.


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"Robert Baer" wrote in message
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Ian Field wrote:


"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents & Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?
OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.



I got that "What can I do if........." box when I installed 7 - it was
for a Dell all in one from Freecycle, the previous owner said there were
no drivers for it on Win7.

I clicked that "What can I do if........." - IIRC it took me to a
dialogue box with an option to "install with optimal defaults" - I've
been using the Dell all for one ever since.

You do have to make at least one pass of attempting to install the
product's drivers, and it sometimes takes a bit of trial & error to
provoke the What can......... box to appear when you want it.

A bit of perseverance usually pays off.

Well, i did install the "obsolete" drivers for sound and multimedia,
Win7 complained but seemingly took them.
A few boots later i had to do them again; now listed twice in the
hardware list..


That's what I had with the Dell all in one, I was scared to delete the
"extra" in case I hit the one that worked. It worked faultlessly for about a
year, then all of a sudden the printer wasn't recognised - I deleted both
instances to start from scratch and the install just breezed through. Now it
all works and I only have the one icon.

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Fred Abse wrote:
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a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).


Explain.

With four *available* partitions, i can support up to six operating
systems (i have done it with zero problems).
Tossing the use of a partition for functions that can be included
with a given OS is stupid and wasteful.

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Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:48:26 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).


Explain.

With four *available* partitions, i can support up to six operating
systems (i have done it with zero problems).
Tossing the use of a partition for functions that can be included
with a given OS is stupid and wasteful.


M$ use all four primary partitions just to make life more difficult for
Linux users ! Install W7 and then trash the the unwanted partition.
At this point you can use it as a container for many secondary
partitions.

Linux. I don't understand your comment about Linux wasting
partitions ! At one point in time I had three Linux installations and
one DOS (M$6.22) on a single HDD, a total of 9 partitions.

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Fred Abse wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:40:34 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:48:26 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).

Explain.

With four *available* partitions, i can support up to six operating
systems (i have done it with zero problems).
Tossing the use of a partition for functions that can be included
with a given OS is stupid and wasteful.


Not quite what I meant.

In what way is linux a waste of partitions?

May i pete again: does not Linux waste a partition for "LILO"?

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Robert Baer wrote:
Fred Abse wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:40:34 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:48:26 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).

Explain.

With four *available* partitions, i can support up to six operating
systems (i have done it with zero problems).
Tossing the use of a partition for functions that can be included
with a given OS is stupid and wasteful.


Not quite what I meant.

In what way is linux a waste of partitions?

May i pete again: does not Linux waste a partition for "LILO"?

I got tired fighting Win7 as the problems mounted up..installing
obsolete drivers and having it both accept them and reject them; Device
Manager show them (and most work) &&&& having to do this a number of
times before it works.
Despite drivers for sound being "accepted" in the same way, NO sound
and error message that audio service is not enabled..and NO SUCH
"service" available.
Wiped the damn drive.

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On 2/12/2013 10:16 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
Fred Abse wrote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:40:34 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:48:26 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

a waste of partitions
(just like Linux).

Explain.

With four *available* partitions, i can support up to six operating
systems (i have done it with zero problems).
Tossing the use of a partition for functions that can be included
with a given OS is stupid and wasteful.

Not quite what I meant.

In what way is linux a waste of partitions?

May i pete again: does not Linux waste a partition for "LILO"?

I got tired fighting Win7 as the problems mounted up..installing
obsolete drivers and having it both accept them and reject them; Device
Manager show them (and most work) &&&& having to do this a number of
times before it works.
Despite drivers for sound being "accepted" in the same way, NO sound and
error message that audio service is not enabled..and NO SUCH "service"
available.
Wiped the damn drive.


Capture device drivers have always been problematic.

So, after you wiped the drive, what did you install that solved
the capture driver problem for obsolete hardware?
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:37:06 -0800, Robert Baer
wrote:

Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.


I'm not sure "remotely like" what you were looking for but the Windows
audio service is named "Windows Audio."

* NOT found.


The symptom you describe, however, is usually a driver problem. (The
full panoply of 'audio services' does not necessarily need to be
operative in order for Windows to play it's 'sounds').

* It accepts the driver, which was not designed for Win7, Device Manager
is happy, but NO GO.


2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents& Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?


There is no 'problem' to 'fix' and if you didn't have show hidden
system folders turned on you would never see them. But, since you
apparently do, you are seeing things for OS use that are not 'user
usable'.

Btw, for those claiming Vista is somehow 'better', it has those same
hidden links so your 'problem' wouldn't be any different.

Starting with Vista (continued in 7 and 8) the things XP kept in the
"\Documents and Settings" folder (plus other things) are now located
under "\Users." What you're seeing are (normally hidden) NTFS
'junction points' (introduced in Windows 2000) that are there for
backward compatibility with older programs so if they try to access
something in the old folder it will be automatically redirected to the
correct folder. But there's nothing for a user to see or do with them.

* Don't you mean \All Users in Documents and Settings?


\Documents and Settings redirects to \Users, which is where 'your
stuff' is now located under your username (just as it was under your
username in the Documents and Settings folder), so your documents are
in \Users\username\Documents (which is 'displayed' as My Documents).

OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??


The 'green bar' is an animated 'progress' indicator, so you know the
program is 'alive' and not 'locked up', and means it's waiting for
whatever action was initiated to 'complete' (or time out). In that
instance it's waiting for you to hit the 'ok' button, which
constitutes 'completion' (of the unauthorized attempt), so it knows
you 'got the message'.

* Do not remember an "OK" button, but will take your word for it.



4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?


Same as above, there's nothing to 'fix'. Those are just more junction
points and you apparently have yet to discover others, like "My
Music," "My Documents," and "My Videos" in the
Users/username/Documents folder. (In 7 they've been relocated to
directly under the username rather than a sub of Documents).

\Program Data\Documents points to \Users\Public\Documents and \Program
Data\Desktop points to \Users\Public\Desktop

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../bb756982.aspx

The things is, you should be familiarizing yourself with, and using,
the current folder locations and forget about the hidden links.

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.


It has nothing to do with being 'secretive'. Those 'folders' don't
exist, as such, and are simply pointers for the O.S. to use when
redirecting what an 'old program' does.


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flipper wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:13:54 -0800, Robert Baer
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flipper wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:37:06 -0800, Robert Baer
wrote:

Problems that i need help in solving:

1) Installed without any whimper, plays its "music" when booting.
Speaker icon has an "X", updated driver, no joy. Click on "X" and get
"one or more Audio Services is not running".
BUT.
According to the Computer Services list, there is NOTHING even
remotely like that!!
Nice BS.

I'm not sure "remotely like" what you were looking for but the Windows
audio service is named "Windows Audio."


* NOT found.


Where did you look? In services under Administrative Tools or in the
services tab in Task Manager?

* in something like computer management services,where all of the
services are supposed to be listed and one can set disable, automatic or
manual.
been too long. got so ****ed i wiped the drive.


"Windows Audio" is the name in services under Administrative Tools. In
Task Manager, the services tab, it shows as audiosrv (with "Windows
Audio" as the description).

* like i said, "nope".


For Windows Audio to operate properly Windows Audio Endpoint Builder
must also be running. And Windows Audio Endpoint Builder depends on
the Power service.


The symptom you describe, however, is usually a driver problem. (The
full panoply of 'audio services' does not necessarily need to be
operative in order for Windows to play it's 'sounds').

* Well i am sure it is a driver problem because the driver was for Win2K
and XP did not exist then (i think).


* It accepts the driver, which was not designed for Win7, Device Manager
is happy, but NO GO.


Which OS was it designed for?

When using Windows 7 drivers a device showing 'no errors' in Device
Manager is usually a fairly good indicator, but with a non Windows 7
driver it does not necessarily mean that everything else in the OS is
'happy' with it because, despite linking up with the hardware, there
may be a 'missing hook' one of more services expect to be there.

What is Windows 7 installed on and what is the audio hardware?

* ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus motherboard; Realtek firmware.


2) Initially, could find a driver for: Multimedia Video Controller: PCI
bus 1,device 6, Function 0.
It is a video capture card, and it works (!). Tried installing an
outdated driver (!! accepted!!), and the Device Manager is happy now or
that.

3) In selecting the folder Documents& Settings, i get Access Denied.
How in the hell do i fix that?
Better yet, fix that problem for ALL other folders and files that may
have the same "restriction" in one step (not each one individually as i
may or may not find them)?

There is no 'problem' to 'fix' and if you didn't have show hidden
system folders turned on you would never see them. But, since you
apparently do, you are seeing things for OS use that are not 'user
usable'.

Btw, for those claiming Vista is somehow 'better', it has those same
hidden links so your 'problem' wouldn't be any different.

Starting with Vista (continued in 7 and 8) the things XP kept in the
"\Documents and Settings" folder (plus other things) are now located
under "\Users." What you're seeing are (normally hidden) NTFS
'junction points' (introduced in Windows 2000) that are there for
backward compatibility with older programs so if they try to access
something in the old folder it will be automatically redirected to the
correct folder. But there's nothing for a user to see or do with them.


* Don't you mean \All Users in Documents and Settings?


No. At this point I hadn't mentioned anything 'in' Documents and
Settings.

* well, then there is no \USERS folder in Win2K.


In Windows XP, Documents and Settings is the root folder where each
user, including "All Users" is located, as well as "Default User,"
"LocalService," and "NetworkService,' etc.

In Windows 7 the root folder is \Users... under which you will find
your username, "All Users," "Public," and "Default." (there is also a
Default Users junction link redirecting to plain ole Default for
programs still referencing 'Default Users')

LocalService and NetworkService were moved to \Windows\ServiceProfiles
because they are services rather than a 'user', per see.


\Documents and Settings redirects to \Users, which is where 'your
stuff' is now located under your username (just as it was under your
username in the Documents and Settings folder), so your documents are
in \Users\username\Documents (which is 'displayed' as My Documents).

OH.
While i leave that message box open, i see a green bar slowly
advancing..What the
heck is that??

The 'green bar' is an animated 'progress' indicator, so you know the
program is 'alive' and not 'locked up', and means it's waiting for
whatever action was initiated to 'complete' (or time out). In that
instance it's waiting for you to hit the 'ok' button, which
constitutes 'completion' (of the unauthorized attempt), so it knows
you 'got the message'.


* Do not remember an "OK" button, but will take your word for it.


Yeah, that's the "message box" you mentioned leaving open.

4) Access Denied also found at ..\Program Data\Documents, ..\Program
Data\Desktop, and other (but not all) sub-folders.
Again how can i fix?

Same as above, there's nothing to 'fix'. Those are just more junction
points and you apparently have yet to discover others, like "My
Music," "My Documents," and "My Videos" in the
Users/username/Documents folder. (In 7 they've been relocated to
directly under the username rather than a sub of Documents).

\Program Data\Documents points to \Users\Public\Documents and \Program
Data\Desktop points to \Users\Public\Desktop

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../bb756982.aspx

The things is, you should be familiarizing yourself with, and using,
the current folder locations and forget about the hidden links.

I hate Win7 in that it is so tight and secretive.
But newer programs "demand" it.

It has nothing to do with being 'secretive'. Those 'folders' don't
exist, as such, and are simply pointers for the O.S. to use when
redirecting what an 'old program' does.


One of these daze,i am going to start Win7 from scratch.
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