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Critiques, suggestions welcome...
http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice  480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. You also don't show us what the input waveform is (half wave or full wave?) or what the impedance from the input to common is (does it have a DC return?). All of these affect the performance of the circuit and need to be included in the simulation. It would also help if you identified how you got the results, specifically, which of the many test points shown on the schematic were used for each plot. You know these things but we can only guess. -- Jim Mueller To get my real email address, replace wrongname with dadoheadman. Then replace nospam with fastmail. Lastly, replace com with us. |
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On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You also don't show us what the input waveform is (half wave or full wave?) or what the impedance from the input to common is (does it have a DC return?). All of these affect the performance of the circuit and need to be included in the simulation. It would also help if you identified how you got the results, specifically, which of the many test points shown on the schematic were used for each plot. You know these things but we can only guess. You should be able to find all the nodes on the schematic? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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Ta-da!
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. Have you built this? Does it actually work? |
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#8
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Ta-da!
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:21:39 -0500, "Rick"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. Have you built this? Does it actually work? It will be bread-boarded today (Tuesday HK time). ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin om wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART. com wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin om wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART .com wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation |
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On 10/8/2012 3:13 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. I don't think I have seen a pair of professionals behave this way before. This is no different than attending a seminar and finding the two of you ****ing on each others' shoes! You (both of you) would never behave this way in person or in face to face public. I think you just don't realize how this looks to the rest of us. Rick |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
You should be able to find all the nodes on the schematic? ...Jim Thompson Agreed, they are well marked on the schematic but not on the simulation results. It would help if the graphs were labeled something like I2 (which matched a current sense point on the schematic). -- Jim Mueller To get my real email address, replace wrongname with dadoheadman. Then replace nospam with fastmail. Lastly, replace com with us. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:13:22 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: [snip] Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. Of course I do. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. There you go, flailing away, being rude and crude, trying to use slime to cover up that you still can't calculate the inverter interstage capacitance... in spite of the fact that I practically handed you the answer on a platter. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 08 Oct 2012 20:05:28 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: You should be able to find all the nodes on the schematic? ...Jim Thompson Agreed, they are well marked on the schematic but not on the simulation results. It would help if the graphs were labeled something like I2 (which matched a current sense point on the schematic). You've lost me there. Did you carefully read the axis labels? Pick a simulation waveform and tell me what you can't connect to a schematic point? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson -- JF |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:04:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson Scheme doesn't work with a full-wave rectifier in place. Works well in cheapy appliance controllers where it's no rectification other than the "pump" parts. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:23:26 -0400, rickman wrote:
On 10/8/2012 3:13 PM, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. I don't think I have seen a pair of professionals behave this way before. This is no different than attending a seminar and finding the two of you ****ing on each others' shoes! You (both of you) would never behave this way in person or in face to face public. Of course not. He has, several times, threatened to physically assault me if he got close enough. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:14:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:13:22 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: [snip] Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. Of course I do. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. There you go, flailing away, being rude and crude, trying to use slime to cover up that you still can't calculate the inverter interstage capacitance... in spite of the fact that I practically handed you the answer on a platter. ...Jim Thompson Demonstrate how. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. YAY! |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:36:37 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:14:55 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:13:22 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: [snip] Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. Of course I do. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. There you go, flailing away, being rude and crude, trying to use slime to cover up that you still can't calculate the inverter interstage capacitance... in spite of the fact that I practically handed you the answer on a platter. ...Jim Thompson Demonstrate how. Standard education issue. If I simply give you the answer you'll never learn to think things thru yourself ;-) I told you about "stack ratio" and asked WHERE are the ESD diodes and pointed you at the data sheet. Everything you need to know is there. You beat the crap out of me when I missed a bit of information from a data sheet. Why doesn't the same treatment apply to you? Hmmmm? Personally I don't think you'll _ever_ get it :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:35:46 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:23:26 -0400, rickman wrote: On 10/8/2012 3:13 PM, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. I don't think I have seen a pair of professionals behave this way before. This is no different than attending a seminar and finding the two of you ****ing on each others' shoes! You (both of you) would never behave this way in person or in face to face public. Of course not. He has, several times, threatened to physically assault me if he got close enough. What you need to worry about is MY health. Suppose I became terminally ill ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 06:22:28 -0500, "Rick"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:24:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:12:21 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 21:01:44 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:45:01 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:26:05 -0700, John Larkin m wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:21:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On 08 Oct 2012 01:09:30 GMT, Jim Mueller wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:59:17 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson ==============look here ======================= Your simulation doesn't include your power input source, presumably a rectifier, based on your label. Full-wave rectified, straight off AC line. +VRECT to -VDC You didn't show the Vrect waveform. What pulls it down? A bridge rectifier without some pulldown can't keep sloshing charge into/out of the current limiting capacitor. Replace Vrect with a floating AC supply and a bridge rectifier, and it won't work. Says the fraud. There's lots of pulldown... it's a PFC supply. ==============look here ======================= ...Jim Thompson Is the PFC supply on all the time? If so, what is this circuit needed for? It certainly can't be used to start up the PFC, if it needs the PFC for pulldown. Yep. I think the Chinese are fudging on me. They show me waveforms with a worst case trough no higher than about 10V off of -VDC. I've asked a New Zealander (in HK, they sort of speak English :-) to run a storage scope view from t=0. I will likely just halve the cap and pick off from a phase... I'm already on the "hot side" any way. ...Jim Thompson You call me a fraud! Clearly you didn't think this through. Looks like I saved your cookies again. I really should stop doing that. What's weird is that I pointed out this problem last week, and you're just now catching on to it. I was spending my time refining the control for the TRIAC. It's rare for the unloaded output of a bridge rectifier to look anything like abs(sin(w*t)). The Chinese assured me, and sent a scope photo. The bridge load capacitance is only 100nF... and there's a whole lot of **** hanging on there that's "defined" to me only as a block. But, indeed, your nudging raised my concerns, which is why I've requested a look-see by an English-speaking buddy. Which nudging, in normal _discussion_ is great. But your intent seems only to be an asshole. ...Jim Thompson Look at the conversation highlighted above. I pointed out the pulldown problem without personal comment. You replied by calling me a fraud. OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. YAY! YAY! Too soon. It didn't take :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:13:35 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:35:46 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:23:26 -0400, rickman wrote: On 10/8/2012 3:13 PM, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. I don't think I have seen a pair of professionals behave this way before. This is no different than attending a seminar and finding the two of you ****ing on each others' shoes! You (both of you) would never behave this way in person or in face to face public. Of course not. He has, several times, threatened to physically assault me if he got close enough. What you need to worry about is MY health. Suppose I became terminally ill ?:-) ...Jim Thompson There are people that I care about. You certainly aren't one of them. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:11:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:36:37 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:14:55 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:13:22 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: [snip] Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. Of course I do. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. There you go, flailing away, being rude and crude, trying to use slime to cover up that you still can't calculate the inverter interstage capacitance... in spite of the fact that I practically handed you the answer on a platter. ...Jim Thompson Demonstrate how. Standard education issue. If I simply give you the answer you'll never learn to think things thru yourself ;-) I told you about "stack ratio" and asked WHERE are the ESD diodes and pointed you at the data sheet. Everything you need to know is there. You beat the crap out of me when I missed a bit of information from a data sheet. Why doesn't the same treatment apply to you? Hmmmm? You said it yourself: I beat the crap out of you. Keep posting stupid nonsense, and keep insulting my wife, and I'll keep doing it. Personally I don't think you'll _ever_ get it :-) ...Jim Thompson Quit smirking and demonstrate. -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:44:18 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:11:14 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:36:37 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:14:55 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:13:22 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: [snip] Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. Of course I do. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. There you go, flailing away, being rude and crude, trying to use slime to cover up that you still can't calculate the inverter interstage capacitance... in spite of the fact that I practically handed you the answer on a platter. ...Jim Thompson Demonstrate how. Standard education issue. If I simply give you the answer you'll never learn to think things thru yourself ;-) I told you about "stack ratio" and asked WHERE are the ESD diodes and pointed you at the data sheet. Everything you need to know is there. You beat the crap out of me when I missed a bit of information from a data sheet. Why doesn't the same treatment apply to you? Hmmmm? You said it yourself: I beat the crap out of you. Keep posting stupid nonsense, and keep insulting my wife, and I'll keep doing it. Personally I don't think you'll _ever_ get it :-) ...Jim Thompson Quit smirking and demonstrate. I bet you have a neon sign outside your building, "The great and wonderful John Larkin works here" ;-) And you'll never "get it"... you lack the true engineering thinking processes to solve it... you're just a Tulane hacker ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:40:26 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:13:35 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:35:46 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:23:26 -0400, rickman wrote: On 10/8/2012 3:13 PM, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:03:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:57:08 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:46:26 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:17:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: OK. My apologies. How about we limit ourselves to strictly electronics from now on? ...Jim Thompson Apologize, sincerely, for calling my wife a slut, and claiming that I pimped her. Wonder why I expected that response? ...Jim Thompson Because you know what a gross asshole you have been, and you haven't the guts to properly apologize for it. I guess asking for an apology is silly; it wouldn't make you any less of a coarse asshole. Why would I want to be friendly with a creep like you? Hat tightening up again ?:-) What a complete jerk! ...Jim Thompson Well, I honor and value my wife. I suppose you don't honor or value yours. That makes sense. Anybody who would marry you, and give up her education and career to support you, must have something wrong with her. I don't think I have seen a pair of professionals behave this way before. This is no different than attending a seminar and finding the two of you ****ing on each others' shoes! You (both of you) would never behave this way in person or in face to face public. Of course not. He has, several times, threatened to physically assault me if he got close enough. What you need to worry about is MY health. Suppose I became terminally ill ?:-) ...Jim Thompson There are people that I care about. You certainly aren't one of them. You missed the meaning. I bet some smarter people took note. If you got run over by a car, I'd campaign to make that day a national holiday. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice 480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 10/7/2012 3:59 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Critiques, suggestions welcome... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SE...ype_Supply.pdf Sand in air ignored. ...Jim Thompson I don't know for sure but guess that circuit is for the initial start up, until the flyback takes over. I have a circuit I made using a depletion mode fet too that works for this and has been built. cheers, Jamie Version 4 SHEET 1 7488 1496 WIRE 1840 -1104 -1648 -1104 WIRE -48 -704 -656 -704 WIRE 144 -704 -48 -704 WIRE 352 -704 208 -704 WIRE 736 -704 352 -704 WIRE -48 -688 -48 -704 WIRE 352 -624 352 -704 WIRE -96 -608 -160 -608 WIRE -48 -544 -48 -592 WIRE 352 -496 352 -560 WIRE -48 -400 -48 -464 WIRE 128 -400 -48 -400 WIRE -48 -368 -48 -400 WIRE -896 -320 -1088 -320 WIRE -656 -320 -656 -704 WIRE -656 -320 -816 -320 WIRE 736 -320 736 -704 WIRE 736 -320 624 -320 WIRE 624 -288 624 -320 WIRE -160 -256 -160 -608 WIRE -48 -256 -48 -288 WIRE -48 -256 -160 -256 WIRE -1088 -240 -1088 -320 WIRE -48 -240 -48 -256 WIRE -656 -192 -656 -320 WIRE 624 -176 624 -208 WIRE -48 -112 -48 -176 WIRE 736 -112 736 -320 WIRE -1088 -96 -1088 -160 WIRE 128 -96 128 -400 WIRE 208 -96 128 -96 WIRE 288 -96 208 -96 WIRE -656 -80 -656 -128 WIRE 624 -64 624 -112 WIRE 704 -64 624 -64 WIRE 208 -48 208 -96 WIRE 288 -32 288 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56 VBottom 0 WINDOW 3 32 56 VTop 0 SYMATTR InstName R7 SYMATTR Value 22 SYMBOL cap -672 -192 R0 SYMATTR InstName C4 SYMATTR Value 0.01µ SYMBOL ind2 720 -128 R0 SYMATTR InstName L1 SYMATTR Value 1mH SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=1.1 Cpar=30p SYMBOL ind2 624 64 M180 WINDOW 0 36 80 Left 0 WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName L2 SYMATTR Value 28µH SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=0.4 SYMBOL cap 192 -48 R0 SYMATTR InstName C6 SYMATTR Value 10µ SYMBOL ind2 880 64 R180 WINDOW 0 36 80 Left 0 WINDOW 3 49 40 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName L3 SYMATTR Value 28µH SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=0.037 SYMBOL diode 944 -16 R270 WINDOW 0 32 32 VTop 0 WINDOW 3 0 32 VBottom 0 SYMATTR InstName D4 SYMATTR Value GSD2004W-V SYMBOL res -32 -272 R180 WINDOW 0 36 76 Left 0 WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName R10 SYMATTR Value 50K SYMBOL Xzener_DiodesInc -64 -176 M180 SYMATTR InstName U3 SYMATTR SpiceModel SMAZ16 SYMBOL schottky 528 176 R90 WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 0 WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 0 SYMATTR InstName D3 SYMATTR Value 1N5819 SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL res -800 -336 R90 WINDOW 0 0 56 VBottom 0 WINDOW 3 32 56 VTop 0 SYMATTR InstName R14 SYMATTR Value 1 SYMBOL diode 608 -48 R90 WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 0 WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 0 SYMATTR InstName D2 SYMATTR Value GSD2004W-V SYMBOL voltage -1088 -256 R0 WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 0 WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName V1 SYMATTR Value 170 SYMBOL diode 400 -48 R90 WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 0 WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 0 SYMATTR InstName D5 SYMATTR Value GSD2004W-V SYMBOL cap 496 -32 R0 SYMATTR InstName C7 SYMATTR Value 0.1µ SYMBOL nmos -96 -688 R0 SYMATTR InstName M1 SYMATTR Value DN2535 SYMBOL res -32 -448 R180 WINDOW 0 36 76 Left 0 WINDOW 3 36 40 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName R8 SYMATTR Value 1K SYMBOL PowerProducts\\LT1246 128 272 R0 SYMATTR InstName U1 SYMBOL polcap 1152 0 R0 SYMATTR InstName C10 SYMATTR Value 100µ SYMBOL res 1360 0 R0 SYMATTR InstName R9 SYMATTR Value 15 SYMBOL nmos 688 144 R0 SYMATTR InstName M2 SYMATTR Value STP8NM60 SYMBOL schottky 672 320 R180 WINDOW 0 24 72 Left 0 WINDOW 3 24 0 Left 0 SYMATTR InstName D1 SYMATTR Value 1N5819 SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL schottky 624 128 R90 WINDOW 0 0 32 VBottom 0 WINDOW 3 32 32 VTop 0 SYMATTR InstName D6 SYMATTR Value 1N5819 SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL npn -192 400 M0 SYMATTR InstName Q1 SYMBOL res -272 496 R0 SYMATTR InstName R11 SYMATTR Value 1meg SYMBOL res 608 -304 R0 SYMATTR InstName R12 SYMATTR Value 100 SYMBOL cap 608 -176 R0 SYMATTR InstName C5 SYMATTR Value 0.047nF SYMBOL diode 144 -688 R270 WINDOW 0 32 32 VTop 0 WINDOW 3 0 32 VBottom 0 SYMATTR InstName D7 SYMATTR Value GSD2004W-V SYMBOL cap 336 -624 R0 SYMATTR InstName C8 SYMATTR Value 44µF TEXT -128 824 Left 0 !.tran 1000m startup TEXT 768 120 Left 0 !K L1 L2 L3 1 TEXT -1080 888 Left 0 !.options reltol=0.01 TEXT -1080 928 Left 0 !.options trtol=7 TEXT -1088 968 Left 0 !.options Gmin=1e-9 method=Gear TEXT -1080 792 Left 0 !.include supertex.lib TEXT -744 -840 Left 0 ;ICE components part#: TX08069 (100kHz flyback transformer 120VDC-170VDC input and 20VDC output@1200mA plus 20Vaux@50mA) TEXT -728 -776 Left 0 ;how can we get full 1200mA regulated output load? (our bias winding is 20V but our output sags at high current draw..) |
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Ta-da!
I tried to upload a working zip file for the ltspice sim but can't with
my new server, if anyone wants it I can send it via email. cheers, Jamie |
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Ta-da!
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:53:28 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
You've lost me there. ...Jim Thompson No wonder! When I looked at your results the first time I completely missed the notes below each graph. Everything is there as you say. Zooming in really helps. Sorry about that. -- Jim Mueller To get my real email address, replace wrongname with dadoheadman. Then replace nospam with fastmail. Lastly, replace com with us. |
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