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Jim Thompson[_3_] January 19th 11 05:01 PM

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Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Oppie[_6_] January 19th 11 05:28 PM

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?


Something like this?
http://www.smarthome.com/9770/Casa-T...-Server/p.aspx

This may help also
http://radio.about.com/od/createinte..._St ation.htm

With so many stations available on internet radio, either directly from the
station's website or through iTunes, why would you want to do it any other
way?




Oppie[_6_] January 19th 11 05:28 PM

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?


Something like this?
http://www.smarthome.com/9770/Casa-T...-Server/p.aspx

This may help also
http://radio.about.com/od/createinte..._St ation.htm

With so many stations available on internet radio, either directly from the
station's website or through iTunes, why would you want to do it any other
way?




PeterD January 19th 11 06:19 PM

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:01:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson


The local outlet store had some of these last year... Apparently they
were not big sellers.

Lab1 January 19th 11 06:32 PM

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On 1/19/2011 1:19 PM, PeterD wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:01:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson


The local outlet store had some of these last year... Apparently they
were not big sellers.


Winamp with Shoutcast and you have probably a good 90% of every radio
station on the planet at your finger tips these days.

--
-Scott

Jim Thompson[_3_] January 19th 11 06:52 PM

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:19:49 -0500, PeterD wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:01:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson


The local outlet store had some of these last year... Apparently they
were not big sellers.


I suspected as much. All I can find seem to require storing your
source material on a hard drive :-(

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Joel Koltner[_2_] January 19th 11 07:28 PM

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?


You're looking for a standalone box rather than something that uses a PC with
sound card, right?

If so, I haven't seen anything really suitable -- I'm looking for the same
thing. I've even toyed with the idea of building one, but realistically you'd
want it to be compatible with, e.g., your Roku Soundbridge there (and I'd want
it to work with my Logitech Squeezebox stuff), and to do that you need an MP3
(or similar) *encoder* in the box. Now, that's easy to do with a PC (there's
a very good, freely-available MP3 encoder called LAME available), but with a
little standalone "network accessible brick," typically their processors
(often low-end ARMs) don't have the floating-point unit that LAME wants...
and -- interestingly enough -- there are very few freely-available fixed-point
MP3 encoders out there, and the ones that do exist (e.g., one called SHINE)
are rather poor compared to LAME.

There are commercially-available fixed-point MP3 encoders, but apparently no
one seems to think the market is big enough to support this more traditional
approach.

At least that's my analysis of why standalone "feed in analog audio here, spit
out MP3/Shoutcast-encoded audio over Ethernet there" boxes don't seem to
exist.

I'd love to find out I'm wrong about that, though.

Someone will likely point out that you can pick up netbooks for all of ~$200
or so at times, and that would work just ducky to run LAME and perform this
function -- although you still have to install and configure all the software
yourself.

---Joel


Jim Thompson[_3_] January 19th 11 07:33 PM

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:28:33 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?


You're looking for a standalone box rather than something that uses a PC with
sound card, right?

If so, I haven't seen anything really suitable -- I'm looking for the same
thing. I've even toyed with the idea of building one, but realistically you'd
want it to be compatible with, e.g., your Roku Soundbridge there (and I'd want
it to work with my Logitech Squeezebox stuff), and to do that you need an MP3
(or similar) *encoder* in the box. Now, that's easy to do with a PC (there's
a very good, freely-available MP3 encoder called LAME available), but with a
little standalone "network accessible brick," typically their processors
(often low-end ARMs) don't have the floating-point unit that LAME wants...
and -- interestingly enough -- there are very few freely-available fixed-point
MP3 encoders out there, and the ones that do exist (e.g., one called SHINE)
are rather poor compared to LAME.

There are commercially-available fixed-point MP3 encoders, but apparently no
one seems to think the market is big enough to support this more traditional
approach.

At least that's my analysis of why standalone "feed in analog audio here, spit
out MP3/Shoutcast-encoded audio over Ethernet there" boxes don't seem to
exist.

I'd love to find out I'm wrong about that, though.


Same here. You'd think that would be a desirable product. But I
guess markets are driven by the iPhone crowd... they can't even walk
down the street without being glued to the Web :-(


Someone will likely point out that you can pick up netbooks for all of ~$200
or so at times, and that would work just ducky to run LAME and perform this
function -- although you still have to install and configure all the software
yourself.

---Joel


...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Joel Koltner[_2_] January 19th 11 08:10 PM

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Same here. You'd think that would be a desirable product.


Yep!

Would the netbook approach work for you, assuming the appropriate software was
already installed and configured?


Jim Thompson[_3_] January 19th 11 08:44 PM

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:10:36 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Same here. You'd think that would be a desirable product.


Yep!

Would the netbook approach work for you, assuming the appropriate software was
already installed and configured?


Yes.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Lab1 January 19th 11 11:00 PM

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On 1/19/2011 2:33 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

But I
guess markets are driven by the iPhone crowd... they can't even walk
down the street without being glued to the Web :-(


Some are so glued that they walk right into a mall fountain...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWtDpGM36J8
Splash!


--
-Scott

Martin Riddle January 20th 11 12:33 AM

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"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message ...
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson
--


I think you can do that with 'Windows Media Encoder'

Audio IN -- WME -- Network Stream

See
http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jak...udio_file.html
And http://www.microsoft.com/expression/..._Overview.aspx


Cheers




Jim Thompson[_3_] January 20th 11 01:19 AM

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:33:23 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
wrote:



"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message ...
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson
--


I think you can do that with 'Windows Media Encoder'

Audio IN -- WME -- Network Stream

See
http://www.jakeludington.com/ask_jak...udio_file.html
And http://www.microsoft.com/expression/..._Overview.aspx


Cheers



Thanks, Martin, I'll give that a try.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

J.B. Wood January 20th 11 12:03 PM

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On 01/19/2011 12:01 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson

Hello, and I've appliances here at work that are capable of streaming
MPEG-4 video and audio. They are made by VBrick Systems but they cost
several thousand dollars each. You input an NTSC or PAL video source
and/or the accompanying analog stereo/mono audio and the stream is
output to your network. You can set parameters like bit rates for video
and audio, frame rate, picture resolution, etc. You would then play the
stream using a client player such as QuickTime or VLC (Out-of-the-box
Windows Media player doesn't support MPEG-4). As a cheaper alternative
you could use a computer with an audio grabber and freeware like VLC
(configured as a server rather than client) to accomplish the same
thing. If it's an Apple computer you could use the Darwin streaming
server software. Sincerely,

--
John Wood (Code 5520) e-mail:
Naval Research Laboratory
4555 Overlook Avenue, SW
Washington, DC 20375-5337

Joel Koltner[_2_] January 20th 11 05:19 PM

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"J.B. Wood" wrote in message
...
Hello, and I've appliances here at work that are capable of streaming MPEG-4
video and audio. They are made by VBrick Systems but they cost several
thousand dollars each.


Have you ever opened one up to see if it's running an x86 CPU? I'd say
there's a very good chance they do!


J.B. Wood January 21st 11 11:53 AM

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On 01/20/2011 12:19 PM, Joel Koltner wrote:
"J.B. Wood" wrote in message
...
Hello, and I've appliances here at work that are capable of streaming
MPEG-4 video and audio. They are made by VBrick Systems but they cost
several thousand dollars each.


Have you ever opened one up to see if it's running an x86 CPU? I'd say
there's a very good chance they do!

Hello, and all I know for sure is that they use a VxWorks embedded RTOS.
The model 4300 encoder boxes I have are a few years old and I don't
know what OS/processors VBrick Systems is using in their current product
line. Sincerely,

--
John Wood (Code 5520) e-mail:
Naval Research Laboratory
4555 Overlook Avenue, SW
Washington, DC 20375-5337

Fred January 27th 11 03:38 AM

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Jim Thompson wrote in
:

Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson


http://corp.orb.com/

Been using Orb for years to send TV/audio/video to troops in the field in
Iraq and Afghanistan.....right from their living room back home.

Works great....

Just plug your tuner into an old computer's sound card.


Jim Thompson[_3_] January 27th 11 05:34 PM

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:38:40 +0000, Fred wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote in
:

Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson


http://corp.orb.com/

Been using Orb for years to send TV/audio/video to troops in the field in
Iraq and Afghanistan.....right from their living room back home.

Works great....

Just plug your tuner into an old computer's sound card.


Thanks! I'll check into that.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

Remember: Once you go over the hill, you pick up speed

Jim Thompson[_3_] January 27th 11 07:54 PM

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:42:35 -0600, flipper wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:34:50 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:38:40 +0000, Fred wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote in
:

Does there exist an apparatus that I could connect the audio output of
my FM tuner, assign an IP address, and distribute throughout my PC
network?

...Jim Thompson

http://corp.orb.com/

Been using Orb for years to send TV/audio/video to troops in the field in
Iraq and Afghanistan.....right from their living room back home.

Works great....

Just plug your tuner into an old computer's sound card.


Thanks! I'll check into that.

...Jim Thompson


Did you not see the other two similar 'PC' solutions?

Microsoft Expressions 4 encoder (XP, Vista, Seven) is probably the
'easiest' for popping a tuner on the sound card and broadcasting it
out as you simply select 'live input', pick the sound card source,
"cue," tick streaming-broadcast, and hit 'start'.

Winamp is a bit more complex (separate server, manually editing a
config file, etc) but if you also want to stream local files I think
it's media browser makes that simpler than Expressions because you can
select directories and playlists vs 'files'. (Expressions seems more
geared to broadcasting a 'prepared presentation'.)

One of the things I like about both of those, though, is neither
requires 'signing in' to anything (although Winamp allows you to sign
up to their shoutcast radio list if you'd like to be a public
'Internet radio station').

Btw, I notice the same 'delay' before sound issueth forth on the
receiving end with Expressions as I did with Winamp.


Thanks for the info!

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

Remember: Once you go over the hill, you pick up speed


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