Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I don't
feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain (which
is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just looked out and
doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his route
across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4 pouch left its
going to be difficult to get back and find out whether he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across the
footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the ruts made by
the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a spade to dig the bike
out and get to the ruts.

"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just
looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his route
across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4 pouch
left its going to be difficult to get back and find out whether he
made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across the
footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the ruts
made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a spade
to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers

"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I don't
feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just looked
out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his route
across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4 pouch left
its going to be difficult to get back and find out whether he made it
back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across the
footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the ruts made
by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a spade to dig
the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


What time is it there?

"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I don't
feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just looked
out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his route
across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4 pouch left
its going to be difficult to get back and find out whether he made it
back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across the
footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the ruts made
by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a spade to dig
the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

The great global warming hoax leads us to expect milder winters.

We've not had snow of any significance before mid February for as many
winters back as I can remember.

This seems to be a freak weather event, the news forecaster said the cold
snap has ripped through N Europe - even hitting Spain (apparently pretty
rare!).

"ian field" wrote in message
...

"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just
looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his
route across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4
pouch left its going to be difficult to get back and find out
whether he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across
the footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the
ruts made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a
spade to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


What time is it there?


GMT -5

Cheers

"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...
What time is it there?


GMT -5

Cheers


Good answer grin

Where in NY are you Martin? I'm in White Plains, NY
Oppie

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:48:22 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
wrote:



"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just
looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his route
across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4 pouch
left its going to be difficult to get back and find out whether he
made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across the
footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the ruts
made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a spade
to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


4 (F) here in NH... about the same as yesterday, and I doubt tomorrow
will be any warmer.

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:48:22 -0500, Martin Riddle wrote:

snip

Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


29 (F) in Richmond, VA

depending on whom you listen to, anywhere from 3 to 12 inches of snow by
tomorrow nite (Sat).



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ian field wrote:
"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just
looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his
route across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4
pouch left its going to be difficult to get back and find out
whether he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across
the footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the
ruts made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a
spade to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

The great global warming hoax leads us to expect milder winters.

We've not had snow of any significance before mid February for as many
winters back as I can remember.

This seems to be a freak weather event, the news forecaster said the
cold snap has ripped through N Europe - even hitting Spain
(apparently pretty rare!).

How does this water get into the air? Ocean warming.

http://ecws.eas.cornell.edu/degaetano_MetApps_web.pdf

Abstract

The characteristics of seasons with enhanced East Coast winter storm and
storm

surge activity are identified from among a set of global atmospheric
circulation indices

and local land and sea surface temperature anomalies. Without regard for
storm strength

or surge potential, the most active East Coast winter storm (ECWS) seasons
occur in

association with El Niño events. There is also some indication that such
seasons are

preferred under the positive phase of the Pacific decadal oscillation. In
terms of storm

surge potential, forecasts of strong ECWS activity are more skillful than
direct forecasts

of the number of extreme surge events. In both cases, sea surface
temperatures (SST) off

the southeast U.S. coast and in the Gulf of Mexico differentiate high
seasonal activity

from relatively inactive seasons. Warmer than normal SST in both regions
during

summer provide a measure of storm activity in the subsequent winter.

The results provide a means of anticipating seasonal East Coast winter storm

activity, and to some degree impacts, that is similar to widely used
forecasts of tropical

storm activity. From a predictive standpoint, forecasts of active strong
storm seasons and

low surge activity exhibit fairly high false alarm ratios. However, the
false alarm rate for

forecasts of low storm activity or high surge activity is less than 10%.



Welcome to the warmest instrumentally measured decade in history.

PeterD wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:48:22 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
wrote:



"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just
looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his
route across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4
pouch left its going to be difficult to get back and find out
whether he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across
the footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the
ruts made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a
spade to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


4 (F) here in NH... about the same as yesterday, and I doubt tomorrow
will be any warmer.

Weather for Chicago, IL
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Current: Cloudy
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"Oppie" wrote in message
...
"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...
What time is it there?


GMT -5

Cheers


Good answer grin

Where in NY are you Martin? I'm in White Plains, NY
Oppie

I'm on the Island, by RFG (Republic Airport). Looks like You're gonna
get some snow tomorrow.
If it stays cold enough us guys by the shore will get some too.

Cheers

"Jim Whitby" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:48:22 -0500, Martin Riddle wrote:

snip

Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


29 (F) in Richmond, VA

depending on whom you listen to, anywhere from 3 to 12 inches of snow
by
tomorrow nite (Sat).


Here's Long Islands Weather.... ( due to strong winds it will be
classified as a Blizzard, eat your heart out Denmark! )

Issued by The National Weather Service
New York City, NY
10:54 am EST, Fri., Dec. 18, 2009

.... BLIZZARD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH
SUNDAY MORNING...

A BLIZZARD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH SUNDAY
MORNING.

DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE OVER THE ATLANTIC SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT
WILL RESULT IN THE POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF HEAVY SNOW AND HIGH WINDS
ACROSS LONG ISLAND. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 12 INCHES WITH WIND
GUSTS OF UP TO 50 MPH ARE POSSIBLE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE EXACT TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM IS STILL
UNCERTAIN. A GLANCING BLOW WITH LESS SNOW AND LIGHTER WINDS REMAINS A
POSSIBILITY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR FALLING AND/OR BLOWING
SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS AND EXTREMELY POOR VISIBILITIES. THIS CAN LEAD TO
WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND MAKE TRAVEL VERY DANGEROUS.

&&

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:27:16 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
wrote:



"Jim Whitby" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:48:22 -0500, Martin Riddle wrote:

snip

Its winter, what do you expect?

21.5 degrees (F) here in NY.

Cheers


29 (F) in Richmond, VA

depending on whom you listen to, anywhere from 3 to 12 inches of snow
by
tomorrow nite (Sat).


Here's Long Islands Weather.... ( due to strong winds it will be
classified as a Blizzard, eat your heart out Denmark! )

Issued by The National Weather Service
New York City, NY
10:54 am EST, Fri., Dec. 18, 2009

... BLIZZARD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH
SUNDAY MORNING...

A BLIZZARD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH SUNDAY
MORNING.

DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE OVER THE ATLANTIC SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT
WILL RESULT IN THE POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF HEAVY SNOW AND HIGH WINDS
ACROSS LONG ISLAND. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 12 INCHES WITH WIND
GUSTS OF UP TO 50 MPH ARE POSSIBLE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE EXACT TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM IS STILL
UNCERTAIN. A GLANCING BLOW WITH LESS SNOW AND LIGHTER WINDS REMAINS A
POSSIBILITY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR FALLING AND/OR BLOWING
SNOW WITH STRONG WINDS AND EXTREMELY POOR VISIBILITIES. THIS CAN LEAD TO
WHITEOUT CONDITIONS AND MAKE TRAVEL VERY DANGEROUS.

&&




We're back to normal here... I just turned the A/C back on ;-)

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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:43:59 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]




We're back to normal here... I just turned the A/C back on ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I was in Flagstaff Wednesday and Thursday of last week, 16" of snow.
Some places around campus had close to 24" accumulation. Colder
than a well diggers... 12F one night, 7F the next. Never got
above 30F during the day.


--
Joe Chisolm
Marble Falls, Tx.

ian field wrote:
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

Everybody keeps forgetting that it's not called Global Warming anymore. Now
it's Climate Change!

That way, any change can be claimed to be anthropogenic.


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zero, and remove the last word.

"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"Oppie" wrote in message
...
"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...
What time is it there?


GMT -5

Cheers


Good answer grin

Where in NY are you Martin? I'm in White Plains, NY
Oppie

I'm on the Island, by RFG (Republic Airport). Looks like You're gonna get
some snow tomorrow.
If it stays cold enough us guys by the shore will get some too.

Cheers

Could be I overstated the "snowed in" bit - turns out the ridiculously
over-engineered inboard twin front disk (cleverly disguised as a drum brake)
binds at these low temperatures. Last night, after a big struggle I got it
up the drive but couldn't make it to the ruts left by the cars, this morning
when I dug it out of the snow drift that formed where I left it, the front
wheel was frozen solid, so I waited for the temperature to rise to 0C so I
could get a flame out of the butane blowtorch and thawed the brake
callipers.

Tonight, I checked the front wheel still turned several times before getting
ready to set off, as the sun set and the temperature fell, the wheel got
increasingly sticky so I got ready and set off, unfortunately as I got to
the snow ruts the front wheel just started sliding again.

Third time lucky (hopefully!) once I've slept off the latest intake of
bourbon, I can free up the brake and set off again - keeping my hand well
clear of the brake lever. Once I get on the main roads with no slush or ice
I can "feel" the front brake and warm up the pads.

"Joe Chisolm" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:43:59 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]




We're back to normal here... I just turned the A/C back on ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I was in Flagstaff Wednesday and Thursday of last week, 16" of snow.
Some places around campus had close to 24" accumulation. Colder
than a well diggers... 12F one night, 7F the next. Never got
above 30F during the day.


--
Joe Chisolm
Marble Falls, Tx.

Now we have fairly heavy snow, the wind is a little gusty too. Haven't
see a white-out yet.
About 8 inches have accumulated so far, another 6 hours to go. Looks
like we will get 20" or so.
We had a 13% chance of a white Christmas. As long as it stays cold we
actually will.

But this does not compare one bit to the blizzard of '78. Now that was a
storm.


Cheers

"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...
Where in NY are you Martin? I'm in White Plains, NY
Oppie

I'm on the Island, by RFG (Republic Airport). Looks like You're gonna get
some snow tomorrow.
If it stays cold enough us guys by the shore will get some too.

Cheers


We lucked out and only got about 4" of light powder. Pretty easy clean-up.

Was interesting to see how our 'new' dog did in the snow. We have four
cocker spaniels. The most recent one was a rescue; blind and about 13 years
old. I hadn't shoveled yet but the dogs wanted to go out. The three younger
ones ran out into the snow and were having a great time. Maxine (the rescue)
took one step out the back door, felt the snow and backed right back into
the kitchen. I had to go out and shovel a path before maxine would go out.
Then she was fine.
Oppie

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:14:12 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
wrote:



"Joe Chisolm" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:43:59 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]




We're back to normal here... I just turned the A/C back on ;-)

...Jim Thompson

I was in Flagstaff Wednesday and Thursday of last week, 16" of snow.
Some places around campus had close to 24" accumulation. Colder
than a well diggers... 12F one night, 7F the next. Never got
above 30F during the day.


--
Joe Chisolm
Marble Falls, Tx.

Now we have fairly heavy snow, the wind is a little gusty too. Haven't
see a white-out yet.
About 8 inches have accumulated so far, another 6 hours to go. Looks
like we will get 20" or so.
We had a 13% chance of a white Christmas. As long as it stays cold we
actually will.

But this does not compare one bit to the blizzard of '78. Now that was a
storm.


Cheers


Just now had to close the windows are fire-up the A/C... all the
cooking and baking was warming up the house ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
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Tom Del Rosso wrote:
ian field wrote:
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

Everybody keeps forgetting that it's not called Global Warming
anymore. Now it's Climate Change!

That way, any change can be claimed to be anthropogenic.

Yep, republican strategist Frank Luntz's idea. lol

On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:43:06 -0600, Ouroboros Rex wrote:

ian field wrote:
"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as Spain
(which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I just
looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his
route across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4
pouch left its going to be difficult to get back and find out whether
he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across
the footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to the
ruts made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can scrounge a
spade to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

The great global warming hoax leads us to expect milder winters.

We've not had snow of any significance before mid February for as many
winters back as I can remember.

This seems to be a freak weather event, the news forecaster said the
cold snap has ripped through N Europe - even hitting Spain (apparently
pretty rare!).

How does this water get into the air? Ocean warming.

http://ecws.eas.cornell.edu/degaetano_MetApps_web.pdf

Abstract

The characteristics of seasons with enhanced East Coast winter storm and
storm

surge activity are identified from among a set of global atmospheric
circulation indices

and local land and sea surface temperature anomalies. Without regard for
storm strength

or surge potential, the most active East Coast winter storm (ECWS)
seasons occur in

association with El Niño events. There is also some indication that such
seasons are

preferred under the positive phase of the Pacific decadal oscillation.
In terms of storm

surge potential, forecasts of strong ECWS activity are more skillful
than direct forecasts

of the number of extreme surge events. In both cases, sea surface
temperatures (SST) off

the southeast U.S. coast and in the Gulf of Mexico differentiate high
seasonal activity

from relatively inactive seasons. Warmer than normal SST in both regions
during

summer provide a measure of storm activity in the subsequent winter.

The results provide a means of anticipating seasonal East Coast winter
storm

activity, and to some degree impacts, that is similar to widely used
forecasts of tropical

storm activity. From a predictive standpoint, forecasts of active strong
storm seasons and

low surge activity exhibit fairly high false alarm ratios. However, the
false alarm rate for

forecasts of low storm activity or high surge activity is less than 10%.



Welcome to the warmest instrumentally measured decade in history.

So your assertion is that atmospheric water causes cold weather? Exactly
how does that work?

Just A. User wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:43:06 -0600, Ouroboros Rex wrote:

ian field wrote:
"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as
Spain (which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I
just looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the
new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his
route across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4
pouch left its going to be difficult to get back and find out
whether he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across
the footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to
the ruts made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can
scrounge a spade to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

The great global warming hoax leads us to expect milder winters.

We've not had snow of any significance before mid February for as
many winters back as I can remember.

This seems to be a freak weather event, the news forecaster said the
cold snap has ripped through N Europe - even hitting Spain
(apparently pretty rare!).

How does this water get into the air? Ocean warming.

http://ecws.eas.cornell.edu/degaetano_MetApps_web.pdf

Abstract

The characteristics of seasons with enhanced East Coast winter storm
and storm

surge activity are identified from among a set of global atmospheric
circulation indices

and local land and sea surface temperature anomalies. Without regard
for storm strength

or surge potential, the most active East Coast winter storm (ECWS)
seasons occur in

association with El Niño events. There is also some indication that
such seasons are

preferred under the positive phase of the Pacific decadal
oscillation. In terms of storm

surge potential, forecasts of strong ECWS activity are more skillful
than direct forecasts

of the number of extreme surge events. In both cases, sea surface
temperatures (SST) off

the southeast U.S. coast and in the Gulf of Mexico differentiate high
seasonal activity

from relatively inactive seasons. Warmer than normal SST in both
regions during

summer provide a measure of storm activity in the subsequent winter.

The results provide a means of anticipating seasonal East Coast
winter storm

activity, and to some degree impacts, that is similar to widely used
forecasts of tropical

storm activity. From a predictive standpoint, forecasts of active
strong storm seasons and

low surge activity exhibit fairly high false alarm ratios. However,
the false alarm rate for

forecasts of low storm activity or high surge activity is less than
10%.



Welcome to the warmest instrumentally measured decade in history.

So your assertion is that atmospheric water causes cold weather?

Nope, snow. Not to shock anyone, but that's what snow is made of. And
that was the subject.

Winter causes cold weather.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:59:03 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex" wrote:

Just A. User wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:43:06 -0600, Ouroboros Rex wrote:

ian field wrote:
"Martin Riddle" wrote in message
...


"ian field" wrote in message
...
Currently snowed in - the guest room has been made up for me but I
don't feel like sleeping.

How quick does a splash of bourbon evaporate from a hot coffee?

The news reports claim that the snow storms have hit as far as
Spain (which is apparently very unusual) its still snowing when I
just looked out and doesn't look like getting any better by the
new day!

The tobacco man is due back from the continent on Friday and his
route across SE England is even worse hit than here, With only 1/4
pouch left its going to be difficult to get back and find out
whether he made it back.

After a long struggle I got the motorcycle up the drive and across
the footpath (sidewalk) but got bogged down before I made it to
the ruts made by the cars, once everyone's up tomorrow I can
scrounge a spade to dig the bike out and get to the ruts.


Its winter, what do you expect?

The great global warming hoax leads us to expect milder winters.

We've not had snow of any significance before mid February for as
many winters back as I can remember.

This seems to be a freak weather event, the news forecaster said the
cold snap has ripped through N Europe - even hitting Spain
(apparently pretty rare!).

How does this water get into the air? Ocean warming.

http://ecws.eas.cornell.edu/degaetano_MetApps_web.pdf

Abstract

The characteristics of seasons with enhanced East Coast winter storm
and storm

surge activity are identified from among a set of global atmospheric
circulation indices

and local land and sea surface temperature anomalies. Without regard
for storm strength

or surge potential, the most active East Coast winter storm (ECWS)
seasons occur in

association with El Niño events. There is also some indication that
such seasons are

preferred under the positive phase of the Pacific decadal
oscillation. In terms of storm

surge potential, forecasts of strong ECWS activity are more skillful
than direct forecasts

of the number of extreme surge events. In both cases, sea surface
temperatures (SST) off

the southeast U.S. coast and in the Gulf of Mexico differentiate high
seasonal activity

from relatively inactive seasons. Warmer than normal SST in both
regions during

summer provide a measure of storm activity in the subsequent winter.

The results provide a means of anticipating seasonal East Coast
winter storm

activity, and to some degree impacts, that is similar to widely used
forecasts of tropical

storm activity. From a predictive standpoint, forecasts of active
strong storm seasons and

low surge activity exhibit fairly high false alarm ratios. However,
the false alarm rate for

forecasts of low storm activity or high surge activity is less than
10%.



Welcome to the warmest instrumentally measured decade in history.

So your assertion is that atmospheric water causes cold weather?

Nope, snow. Not to shock anyone, but that's what snow is made of. And
that was the subject.

Winter causes cold weather.

And that is supposed to impress who?

Post some electronics.