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Jim Thompson July 4th 07 02:31 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson
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Tim Wescott July 4th 07 02:47 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

You want phosphoric acid, IIRC. It's the stuff in Naval Jelly, at any
rate. It cleans the rust and leaves a mild, paintable, anti-corrosion
film behind.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

D from BC July 4th 07 05:54 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:31:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson


You could try a wire wheel on a drill..
http://www.doityourself.com/invt/u201593
The link is just an example....
D from BC

Michael A. Terrell July 4th 07 06:28 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?



Ospho


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Barry Lennox July 4th 07 10:19 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:31:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?


I'd use a flap wheel or sanding disk to remove 90% of the crap. Maybe
a slosh over with phosphoric acid or one of the off-the-shelf
versions, then a coat of "Hammerite" works wonders. Limited colors,
but it's pretty tough.

Barry

Mick July 4th 07 02:19 PM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson

Kill rust?
Mick C

John Ferrell July 4th 07 02:39 PM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:31:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson

If it has not reached the flaking point Rustoluem spray paint will do
just fine. Follow the instructions on the can. It will take at least
overnight to dry. If it has reached the flaking point mechanical
removal of the rust is advised!

John Ferrell W8CCW
"Life is easier if you learn to
plow around the stumps"

oppie July 4th 07 05:15 PM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson


You start some pretty strange threads sometimes Jim...

If you don't get a good answer from the techies here, you can also try
news:rec.crafts.metalworking

Oppie


HapticZ July 4th 07 08:44 PM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
try a litre of classic coca cola

it erodes everything, including teeth.


"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
...
Jim Thompson wrote:
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

You want phosphoric acid, IIRC. It's the stuff in Naval Jelly, at any
rate. It cleans the rust and leaves a mild, paintable, anti-corrosion
film behind.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" gives you just what it says.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html




Martin Riddle July 5th 07 12:39 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson


I second the navel jelly. Then Murtic acid for heavy jobs ;)

BTW, use rustolium and their primer. If not I really like the Painters Touch
paint, really good UV protection.

Cheers



Joerg July 5th 07 01:47 AM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

When I put out the flag today ...



Good man. We went to a parade today, out in the boonies. Scouts,
farmers, tractors, horses and so on. Then the Weber was fired up.
Country living is good. But after a parade with lots of horses it does
smell a bit ....


... I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?


I'd go with John's advice. Brush off any coarse stuff with a wire brush,
then a fresh coat of your favorite color Rustoleum. Ace has some good
stuff as well. Initially I thought that there is no free lunch when it
comes to rust but my wife convinced me. She regularly spray-paints
rusted lawn chairs and afterwards the paint lasts years. And this is
Cahleefohniah where is does rain and freeze and all that.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Jimmie D[_2_] July 8th 07 02:56 PM

Cleaning Steel Prior to Painting?
 

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
When I put out the flag today I noticed that the steel wall bracket is
rusting, in spite of this being Arizona, where rust is forbidden ;-)

Do I remember correctly that cleaning steel in a mild acid solution is
the best treatment to remove the rust, then prime and paint?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave


By a vinyl holder. Wife picked up 2 for less than $2 ea. Otherwise remove
the rust mechanically, finish up wiht some naval jelly, prime and paint.

Not worth the two bucks to me.
When mine doesnt have a flag in it it holds a support for hanging flower
pots




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