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Eeyore March 31st 07 11:34 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 
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TimPerry March 31st 07 06:43 PM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 
what fires the 2n5064 in the crowbar circuit? looks like the 2 gates are
tied together and go nowhere else. how does that make a diac?


"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Eeyore March 31st 07 06:56 PM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 


TimPerry wrote:

what fires the 2n5064 in the crowbar circuit? looks like the 2 gates are
tied together and go nowhere else. how does that make a diac?


You know, I'd never looked at that in detail. That's puzzling.

I do indeed use a diac myself in that application. Look at the Behringer EP2500
schematic, they copied it 'verbatim'.

Graham


TimPerry April 1st 07 01:41 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
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TimPerry wrote:

what fires the 2n5064 in the crowbar circuit? looks like the 2 gates

are
tied together and go nowhere else. how does that make a diac?


You know, I'd never looked at that in detail. That's puzzling.


maybe leakage at the p-n junction on one is enough to fire the gate on the
other under full DC conditions. just a wild guess.... or maybe the
schematics are just plain wrong. it's not uncommon, unfortunately. i don't
feel like tearing mine apart just for curiosity's sake.


I do indeed use a diac myself in that application. Look at the Behringer

EP2500
schematic, they copied it 'verbatim'.

Graham


any chance you have a QSC USA 850 schematic? a DJ blew mine up. i don't use
to anymore except as a loaner but im sentimentally attached to it.



Phil Allison April 1st 07 03:29 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 

"TimPerry"

any chance you have a QSC USA 850 schematic? a DJ blew mine up. i don't
use
to anymore except as a loaner but im sentimentally attached to it.



** All QSC's shems are here.

http://www.qscaudio.com/support/tech...rt/schems1.htm






........ Phil



TimPerry April 1st 07 04:50 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
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"TimPerry"

any chance you have a QSC USA 850 schematic? a DJ blew mine up. i don't
use
to anymore except as a loaner but im sentimentally attached to it.



** All QSC's shems are here.

http://www.qscaudio.com/support/tech...rt/schems1.htm






....... Phil


thank you Phil, this explains why one channel remains functional with one
internal fuse blown.



Phil Allison April 1st 07 06:33 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 

"TimPerry"

what fires the 2n5064 in the crowbar circuit? looks like the 2 gates are
tied together and go nowhere else. how does that make a diac?



** It doesn't - as a rule.

Just tried two GE brand C106D1s ( 400 volt, 4 amp sensitive gate SCRs)
connected as shown in the QSC schem.

Functioned like a pair of soggy, 18 volt zeners wired back to back.





........ Phil




Eeyore April 1st 07 07:06 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 


TimPerry wrote:

any chance you have a QSC USA 850 schematic? a DJ blew mine up. i don't use
to anymore except as a loaner but im sentimentally attached to it.


I'm sure it's at qscaudio.com, under support.

Graham



Eeyore April 1st 07 07:13 AM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 


Phil Allison wrote:

"TimPerry"

what fires the 2n5064 in the crowbar circuit? looks like the 2 gates are
tied together and go nowhere else. how does that make a diac?


** It doesn't - as a rule.

Just tried two GE brand C106D1s ( 400 volt, 4 amp sensitive gate SCRs)
connected as shown in the QSC schem.

Functioned like a pair of soggy, 18 volt zeners wired back to back.


Hardly the best substitute for a low voltage diac !

Graham


TimPerry April 1st 07 01:31 PM

QSC RMX2450 schematic for a.a.p.l-s
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Phil Allison wrote:

"TimPerry"

what fires the 2n5064 in the crowbar circuit? looks like the 2 gates

are
tied together and go nowhere else. how does that make a diac?


** It doesn't - as a rule.

Just tried two GE brand C106D1s ( 400 volt, 4 amp sensitive gate

SCRs)
connected as shown in the QSC schem.

Functioned like a pair of soggy, 18 volt zeners wired back to back.


Hardly the best substitute for a low voltage diac !

Graham


it might be that purchasing got a really good deal on 5064's.

i wonder what happens when the NP cap goes bad. it fires every half cycle?




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