On 06/12/2021 04:24 PM, Marilyn Manson wrote:
We chose to see the North Rim first because we hate crowds. While there,
we were chatting with one of the NPS Rangers.

"Should we visit the South Rim? We hate crowds."

"I've worked for the NPS for close to 40 years. I've always chosen the quietest, most
remote assignments because I hate crowds, so I know what you mean. That said,
you're here. You'll regret coming all the way out here and not seeing the South Rim.
It's worth the drive. Get there early, see what want and leave when you want."

If you want quiet and remote, go to Toroweap.

https://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/tuweep.htm
http://www.zionnational-park.com/toroweap.htm

The ranger said he had to go to the South Rim once or twice a year for
meetings and that's exactly how he liked it. I did have a flat and as
soon as I got back to civilization, if Kanab qualifies, I replaced the
joke that Ford provides for a jack with a bottle jack.

I bit the bullet and went to the South Rim a couple of years ago. It was
in the fall so it wasn't too bad. No way am I going to Phantom Ranch
unless I'm heavily sedated and tied to a mule.

We went there when I was a kid and my mother was one of those people
hanging ten off the edge for a photo op. My father and I hung back about
twenty feet. otoh she hated boats. We got her out in a boat once and it
was pretty tense.