On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:09:04 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/16/2021 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:13:51 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:
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I had an old Crapsman. I hated that too. I didn't like using the
machine. It's still holding down the basement floor, getting in my
way. I gotta figure out how to get rid of scrap metal around here.
Our landfill/transfer station's building burned down a couple of years
ago so they closed the whole deal. The alternate is about 40mi and is
run by a different county. I have no idea how to use it, if we even
can. Once I figure it out, my RAS will be traveling with it.

What about scrap metal? Can you sell it for that?

Not sure where. I'd do it. Foisting that junk on a would-be
woodworker wouldn't be fair to woodworking.


Voltage is the same so you will have to deal with that.

The Laguna is 3 hp, the Jet is 2 hp. 2 is probably going to be plenty.

I have two 20A circuits, one for the DC and the other for the tools
(they aren't going to be used at the same time). A 30A (3HP) circuit
would be a RPITA.

Yes, and why I have a long 10/3 extension cord.

I dislike extension cords with a passion. I'm always tripping on
them. My basement is unfinished so it's possible. The big problem is
the sunken living room in the middle of the house. Getting wires down
to the "sunk" part and back up isn't fun. A pipe, like 10/2, is going
to no fun at all.

Well I would not use extension cords if I did not have to but everything
being mobile and stored mostly against the walls requires that set up.
Most every thing gets moved to the middle of my 3 car garage when I'm
using electrical tools.

Except for my TS, all of my tools are stored against the wall. Of
course, that's where they're used too. I'm just adding a couple more
240V outlets to the chain for the lathe and something else (sander or
jointer). Hmm, maybe I should put one on the opposite wall, before I
close up the wall they're on now. More mission creep.


Can you put your hands on one before the purchase. Rockler and
Woodcraft are common stores, maybe not for you, but both carry both
brands. BUT right NOW neither are likely to have one on the floor to
look at. My local Woodcraft store is almost empty of anything that is
not built in the USA.

We have both (two of each, actually). With the shortage of power
tools, no one has anything right now. I'm really not ready to buy
quite yet so maybe the situation will correct itself before I am.

I understand the "over seas" manufacturers production is way down.

Everything has been pushed out until summer or late summer. Of course
they want you to order (and pay) now. Don't think that's going to
happen.


Will shipping be a consideration? I had my jointer/planer delivered
into my garage for $25 above purchase price,

Yeah. I'm done moving tools like that in my pickup. I gust about
ruptured a duck getting the lathe from the pickup into the basement. I
would have left it until morning but it was supposed to rain. I
didn't think it would be a good idea.

Is the Laguna mobile? YES, build in wheels.

The old one had fixed wheels. From the ratings it was an issue
moosing it around the shop.


Fixed wheels are better than no wheels but not much... My drum sander
has an enclosed base with fixed wheels. I have managed to place it
against a wall in a location that does not require turning. I pull it
straight out whan I use it and push it straight back in when I'm done.
I'm certain that it is lighter weight than a jointer so turning a
jointer will probably be more troublesome.

My sander has the three-point wheels. It's good enough but takes some
jockeying.

Yes BUT! the 3 wheel bases are stable on an uneven floor. ;~) I was
really concerned about giving up the 3 wheel base for my Jet cabinet saw
and its 50" extension when I got the SawStop with 4 wheel base and
nothing under the 50"+ extension. The extension on the SS simply
floats. It has legs about 1/2" from touching the floor, per SS's
advice. The legs are simply to prevent tipping if you load the
extension up with a lot of weight.



I bought the top end Bora mobile base for my 500 lb. jointer/planer.
Each wheel swivels vs the model with only 2 swivel wheels. It actually
glides more easily than my SawStop mobile base, and I thought it was
pretty easy to maneuver. The SawStop will remain in place when elevated
on to the wheels. The jointer will take off towards the garage door
opening, natural slant of the garage floor. I have to keep at least one
of the locking feet at each wheel, 4, locked.

I bought three of the predecessor to that base. It looks identical,
except that only two of the wheels swivel. Same problem as the
three-point, above. I have one on my DP, which rarely gets moved
(cleaning day) and one on my router table (and the other under a bench
somewhere because Woodcraft was blowing them out, cheap). I wish I'd
gotten the four swivel one. I would have put it on my BS but bought
the ridiculously expensive "mobility kit" instead.

BTW, the "mobility kit" for the lathe was $500. Yes, halfa-grand!
It's a little heavy to move. It is a wonder to behold though. A
marvel of over-engineering.

The crappy kit for the bandsaw was $150, IIRC. It works but the rear
wheels and axle are really cheezy for that kind of money.

I have a hoist fixed in one spot so after assembly everything has to
move into its place. I'm alone and not about to lift these things
without some serious mechanical advantage.

My house is built with "engineered" beams so won't take anything
heavier than a light fixture hanging from them. I had to find
somewhere that wires didn't interfere too badly and build a beam
between walls at that spot to support a hoist. That spot is right
behind my saw so everything moves.

BTW, I used the Sagulator to design the beam(s). .25" deflection at
1000lbs, center concentrated, between walls 13' apart.

I was considering the 2 swivel but decided that maneuvering with 4
swivels means I can move it in any direction to park, parallel or
perpendicular to a fixed wall or object.

Yes, but I think that one had just hit the market so they were blowing
out the older ones for $50. I thought I could live with it.