On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:38:23 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 07:12:38 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 3:10:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 12:28:51 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:
Got lucky, just got the call from the county health dept, which
is one of the places I registered. Good thing I pursued many
avenues, I registered at about 8 places.
Be sure you cancel the rest of them. Part of the gridlock problem is
people slamming every available server requesting an appointment for
one shot. Then they don't show up and the vaccine might be wasted.
We have people hanging around the vaccination stations, just hoping to
"scalp" a dose left by a no-show.

No way to cancel at any of the places I registered with, about 7 of them.
But there isn't any risk of anything being wasted. This is just registration
to be notified when you can make an appointment. And even then they
don't appear to be waiting very long, they notify way more people than they
have vaccine for. You would think that once they notified you via text or email
they would tell you that they have a spot available, you need to now make
the appointment by midnight tomorrow. Instead, a friend of mine got
notified from one of the 6 NJ state megasites that he registered with via
email around 8PM. They said they had appointments available,
gave him a code to go online and make one. By the time he saw the
email and got to the website,
it was 75 mins later. He filled out the questionare for the appointment,
at the end it said, sorry, no more appointments available, nothing about
what to do next.

Now next thing, you'd think that once selected, you should be at the top
of the list when they get vaccine. But it's been about a week and he's
heard nothing more, so it looks like you go back into the big pool with
everyone else. He's 76, pre-existing conditions, so he's clearly in the
active pool. So, it's one big cluster f***. Fortunately for him, he got
lucky and heard by word of mouth to try a county near him in NC
where he lives part time. He got through by phone and got the vaccine.

So I'll see when and if I get contacted by the 7 other places I'm registered
with. All this is govt incompetence, both from the Trump administration and
the states. They had 9 months to get this right, to have people register
starting in Sept or Oct., to have websites and phone banks that could
handle it, to do it by first letter of your last name to avoid a rush, etc.
But the US has fallen badly and can't get up. We have the death numbers
to prove it. As I've said before, where were the plans to quickly bring up
more lines to make any of the six vaccines that panned out? We should
be hearing that there will be new lines producing the two vaccines
coming on line next month, etc. Instead that dope Trump refused an
offer from Pfizer to play more orders, Biden had to do it, that vaccine
isn't coming until summer. There should have been plans to replicate
any of the 6 vaccine lines to make enough to get 80% of Americans
vaccinated in 6 months. Make sure the equipment is available, use
DPA. Instead Trump declared that we were in a war, then surrendered
and chose lying and denial.
I don't know if you noticed but Biden is the president now and this is
all on him if you really believe the president has anything to do with
it at all.


You're just confused and wrong again. Trump had 9 months to work on
a rational, uniform system for the country. Remember in spring when he
held that news conference and told the whopping lies about Google having
2500 engineers working on a website? A website that all Americans
could access and that would direct them to a Covid testing facility,
where anyone that wanted a test could get one? All a total fabrication,
it was immediately denied by Google. Just imagine if instead he had
actually done something like that, to get a website that all states and
facilities could have used to schedule vaccines. He had 9 months.
Biden has had 3 weeks.


I don't.
Once the vaccines are allocated to the states, the feds are out of it.
I do agree there should be a single portal to sign up and it sounds
like when they actually get the private pharmacies doing this in any
meaningful way they will be using the computer network that pharmacies
already have in place.
This is still a vaccine shortage problem tho and will not be solved
until they can keep up with demand.

Imagine if we had a competent, fit president. Trump is supposed to be the
business genius, the guy that can organize, build things, make things happen.
What would a Jack Welch, Andy Grove or Bill Gates have asked and done?
It's not rocket science.

1 - Let's have a goal of being able to vaccinate 75% of Americans within
4 months of first vaccine availability. What will it take to meet that?

2 - We have 6 vaccine candidates, we don't know which ones will be
successful, so let's have plans in place, the equipment needed, facilities,
to put any of the 6 into volume production to meet that. What will it
take? Make sure the eqpt is available, use DPA as needed.

3 - Have a national website for easy vaccine registration, get people
to register starting in September.


Instead Trump was so stupid and reckless that when Pfizer offered up 100 mil
more doses in late summer, Trump refused. Biden finally ordered them, but
now they won't arrive until late summer because everyone else is ahead of
us. We are just extremely lucky that
three of the 6 vaccines panned out. Suppose only one had, where would we be
then? We can do great things, we created a massive, unprecedented industrial
program to build the atomic bomb, nothing like it has been seen since. We
had a program to put man on the moon. Those took leadership and vision.
Under Trump, instead of that, we had lying and denying. Israel has 66% vaccinated
and they don't even make any vaccine.