On 2018-01-04, rickman wrote:
nospam wrote on 1/3/2018 8:38 AM:
In article , harry newton
wrote:

but remember this is an Apple-only problem

nope. it's a battery chemistry issue which affects android and any
other device that uses a battery.

there is *no* avoiding it. *every* battery ages.

Yes, but it doesn't have to impact the operation of the product in the
first year.

Where's the evidence that all (or even the majority) of iPhones are
impacted in the first year? Answer: it doesn't exist because it's
bull**** hyperbole.

A well designed product would be sized to continue to operate as the
battery ages.

Apple devices *do* continue to operate as the battery ages. I've got an
eight year old iPad 1st generation sitting right here beside me that's
working just fine on the original battery. And the feature in question
actually extends the *runtime* of devices with dying batteries rather
than putting so much load on them they fail outright and shut down the
device. Personally, eeking out every little bit of runtime possible
happens to be precisely what I *expect* from the OS that runs on my
devices. Is that something that sets Apple users apart from the rest of
the herd?

I've had laptop batteries that worked nearly as well as new for two or
three years.

Just two or three? I'm posting this on a six year old MacBook Pro with
the original battery (486 cycles and counting and 88% healthy) without
any issues. I have an iPhone 3GS that still works on the original
battery. I have a 2010 iPhone 4 in the car as a dedicated dashcam that
still runs great too.

Do you not understand the issue?

Do you?

Apple would seem to have either not given this attention in the design
stage (indicating incompetence)

Nonsense. Apple's customers have good experiences, which is why Apple
tops customer satisfaction and rakes in the profits. Real-world use
trumps some blogger with a slant any day.

or they made a conscious decision to allow battery deterioration to
impact the operation of the phone in the first year of operation (with
potential warranty issues).

Anecdotes and hyperbole don't equate to pandemics. This entire "issue"
is a big, overblown bucket of bull**** from people who don't understand
the engineering involved. And a few months from now it'll be forgotten
and replaced with the next new "scandal".

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