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Default Apple throttled your iPhone by cutting its speed almost in HALF!

He who is JF Mezei said on Wed, 3 Jan 2018 01:59:01 -0500:

We'll just have to see what apple does for iPhone 2018 models. (Whether
it grows battery capacity such that after 2 years, the battery is still
good enough to power the phone in cold weather) or whether this is still
done through software throttling.


Yup. Apple has to do *something* because nobody wants their $1000 iPhone X
to turn into an iPhone 1/2X in just one year.

Apple *knows* what the problem is, and they *knew* the problem when they
decided to secretly slip in the CPU halving in the first place.

That they resorted to a drastic move that nobody else has ever done for a
smartphone is a very strong indicator that a "real" solution is a new
design.

So I agree with you on your logic that Apple must do something so that this
Apple-only design problem doesn't happen with the 2018 iPhone models.

I think Apple learned a lesson here which is they should test their phones
in the real world - and where the real world happens to include weather
colder than it gets in Cupertino


The specs mention low operating temperature of 0+ALA-, so from a legal point
of view, they may be in the clear. (although for the first battery,
within a year, I saw it shutdown at +-12+ALA- once).


It's been proven already that Apple wasn't aware of the low-temperature
issues so it's just yet another piece of the puzzle that clearly indicates
Apple doesn't test their devices thoroughly enough.

What Samsung implemented for batteries is sort of what Apple needs to
implement for their phones - which is a rigorous testing system that
simulates what would happen in a year.

Remember, Apple said they were totally blindsided by the iPhone 6 problems,
which simply means they didn't test it because they were common.


So Apple needs to understand what they did wrong, and how to fix it.


I am pretty sure Apple has known for quite some time. They will just
have to break the news to Jony Ive who won't be able to make his baby
thinner in 2018.


That's a pretty accurate assessment that I agree with. If anything, they
need thicker phones, where their "legal remedy" from lawsuits might be a
trade-in program for a phone that works for more than a year but that has
to have a thicker case.

I agree with you that Apple *knows* all the possible solutions which is why
they came up with the genius idea that they implemented, got caught, and
apologized for (although their so-called apology was a soothing farce).

On the plus side, bigger batteries will give more autonomy as well as
proviode enough amps when cold.


Yup. My battery is 7,000 mAh. It lasts as long as I need it to last.
And when it's dead, I just pop in another.

I agree with you that better batteries is what they need, and they know
this, which is why they decided not to and to just do their secret trick.

They can't do the secret trick anymore, so, they'll have to fix the design
problem moving forward. Let's hope they fix it for 2018 models and that
they offer a new-design trade-in program for the previous iPhones.

I suspect that's what their out-of-court settlement will end up being:
a. A penalty
b. A trade-in for the customers to a design that actually works

In the end, I think Apple has an *easy* problem to solve which is so easy
to solve that it's not funny.


It's not that easy. If only they could shrink that huge taptic engine to
what it used to be like before (a small vibrator). Marketing might not
like that.


Well, it's not that easy if they want to keep the phones thin, but remember
this is an Apple-only problem so they can do whatever it is that the
Android manufacturers do and they won't have this problem.

So they can fix the design if they want to.

For the existing phones, it's pretty easy for them to just design a thicker
back and thicker battery, and that might solve their legal issues if they
offer a trade in. People might accept a bigger phone if it's the same
phone, essentially, but with the battery that works with it for more than
just one year.

I pity all those $1000 iPhone X owners who will have an iPhone 1/2 X in
just one year. Apple can't afford to alienate those customers who pay the
most. It might be why shipment forecasts are down 20 million from 50
million to 30 million. Dunno.

But if I was in the market for a $1000 iPhone X, and I knew it would be an
iPhone 1/2 X in just a year, I wouldn't plunk down $1000 for a phone with
that time-lapse halving "feature".

Apple could grow the smaller phones a bit to allow bigger battery. I
have to wonder at what stage the iPhone 9 is at right now and wether it
is too late or not to make such a change.


I'm going to agree with you and posit that the simplest solution is a
bigger battery. Of course, Apple already knew this, which is why they came
up with their simplest solution (which was to secretly halve the cpu).

Since they can't secretly halve the CPU anymore (they'll lose customers if
they continue that shady practice) - they have to do *something*, and that
something might be a bigger battery.

What I think is *easy* for Apple, given they have more money than God, is
just to make a trade-in for existing owners of a phone with a bigger
battery, and that will go a long way toward solving their self-created
legal troubles.

Once they get that backlog of legal troubles resolved, moving forward, all
they havfe rto do is implement what the Android people do, since this
problem is an Apple-only problem.

That's why the solution should be easy for them - since it's already solved
on the Android side. It's a self-created Apple-only problem that Apple can
easily solve if they want to solve it.

As you said ... we'll know in the future... so this is just conjecture.
I do appreciate that you speak as an adult would, and not as an Apple
Apologist would. That's refreshing for this newsgroup.