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CBHvac wrote

Coleman is a York unit...good when installed correctly....Goodman makes
JaniJunks..err..Janitrols...even installed correctly, they suck total
complete ass...
I keep more parts on the trucks and in stock for that POS than anything.
And to be fair, out of all the Yorks we install a year, we average about 4
warranty issues a month..on some equipment we didnt install, but out of the
units we have, only one has had a major warranty callback, and that was a
simple fan motor, and one that the local Rheem dealer installed about 6
years ago had a compressor go out, and that was warranty...


Rheem/Ruud are some of the best units out there...when installed correctly.
Trane, MADE by American Standard, is a POS too...So is Lennox. Carrier
thinks the world is a guinea pig..All units use a scroll compressor, unlike
Trane, or York (has several models with Scrolls) and if I wasnt a York
Dealer, I would be a Rheem/Ruud dealer due to the fact they are tough as
tanks, ugly as sin ( the biggest drawback next to the service end) and last.


Trane was on the verge of going out of business, when American Standard, who
had aquired the GEs HVAC division saved them.
Trane, has a GREAT marketing campaign...but ask me what I repair, and
replace more of than Goodmans.....Tranes...


Nope...we determine total system size based upon Manual J, or T, or
N...depends on the situation, and type of system, and structure.
Then, we do a manual D, to make sure that enough air is delivered, and at
the proper speed, and volume to maintain the temps as the system is
designed, while maintaining the correct static pressures in the system.


Bottom line: Name means NOTHING Install means ALL.

Even a Janitrol, with all their issues, and problems, cheap cases, cheaper
parts, will do the job as its designed..till it breaks...and it will break..
We recently got a new account...an apartment complex with a few new
Goodmans, (about 50) [50 What, Goodman's or Rheems?]

Who installed them and what was causing the compressor failures? Those
factors will be the key as to why the compressors failed at that rate!
I'm willing to bet that if you investigate sufficiently you will find a
maintenance or install cause for most of those compressor failures. D-

some older Rheems, and some ancient (pre 78 era) GE and
Payne units...out of all the units.....we have been running our asses silly
with Goodman warranty...in one day alone, we put in 5
compressors...sorry..but thats life with a Goodman.


We both know there are a "Major Qualifications" to make in most of these
cases. How were they installed and maintained! These are the major
determining factors when assessing or drawing any conclusions concerning
the difference in equipment.

Most of the working components of most air conditioner's are
manufactured by the same companies. Yes, some makes and models of
compressors and fan motors may be better than others but in my many
years in this industry I have not known of some companies putting
seconds' in their units.

Therefore, if the entire system duct work, airflow, etc., is designed
and operating at its spec standards, I see no reason why one Brand Name
is going to be much superior to another Brand Name. The cabinets were a
bit light and the paint faded on Goodmans, but if operating to specs
they held up better than many other Brands I worked on. I did hate the
aluminum coils Carrier and others had for years. Retired since September
1992. D-

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