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Default Mount a 2 stroke upside down?

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:01:25 -0700, wrote:

Because of the size and the way my bicycle frame is shaped it may be
more convenient, strictly from a mechanical point of view, to mount a
2 stroke bicycle engine upside down. Maybe upside down and backward.
If I did this the carb would need to be inverted because it is a float
bowl type carb. I suppose I could use a pumper type carb instead but I
don't know if I have one that is suitable as far as fuel and air flow
are concerned. Besides, small engine pumper carbs tend to be kind of
on/off devices in that they idle OK and and run wide open well but
don't do so well in the mid range throttle settings. I suppose I could
buy one but I'm cheap. So, if there is room to invert the carb what
else do I need to worry about? Will the crankcase tend to get too hot
since it will now be above the cylinder? And lets say that the engine
is not only inverted but also turned around. Now the engine will be
rotating the wrong way to drive the bike forward. Since the engine is
a two stroke it seems to me that I will only need to change the
ignition timing. I think this can be done simply by broaching a new
keyway in the spinning magnet flywheel. The ignition is a fully
electronic CDI type with no points. I assume the ignition works by
sensing the voltage rise in the magneto primary winding as there is no
other provision for detecting the position of the flywheel magnet.
Have I missed anything?
Thanks,
Eric


Model airplane 2 stroke motors are frequently mounted upside down and
run all right although if you flood one it might be a bit more
difficult to start and chainsaw run all right upside down.

As for running backward, I'm not sure of the efficiency as some modern
2 strokes use some pretty exotic porting that may be rotation
directional in nature. I'm leaning on model engine experience but some
glow plug designs of model engines seemed to run in either direction
with no problems and other, different in design, wouldn't seem to run
backwards at all.

But I don't think that you will do any mechanical damage by trying it.

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cheers,

John B.