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Default "Random" Circuit Needed.

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:31:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 07:26:29 +1000, "David Eather"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 05:14:13 +1000, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:07:54 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2015 02:00 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
For a simulation situation I need a random number generator with a
twist...

What I need to simulate is a "random" selection of one-of-16 outputs.

Clock "speed" is 12.5kHz ;-)

Built of 74HCxx parts is preferred... I have a full ensemble of those
device in my PSpice library.

Thanks in advance.

...Jim Thompson


How random? You could use a 16-bit PRBS made from two HC299 and an
HC86. Feed back Q14 XOR Q13, and tap out four stages to a HC154 demux.
If you need better randomness, use four PRBSes of different length.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I just need semi-random enough to test a fast AGC.

...Jim Thompson


there is a bias with the 8-bit just use the last 4 bit idea. With 255
'clocks' all states but 0000 will occur 16 times while 0000 will only
appear 15 - the cycle then repeats. The lack of the extra 0000 may cause
the bias point to continually drift high.


I was wondering about that myself... I'll see if there's a cure.

...Jim Thompson

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The cure is to force the counter into the all-zeros state (the
lockup state if you're using EXOR feedback) once per cycle and then
to force it back out again, like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7ea52axx6q6fny/LFSR.asc?dl=0

which'll give you a bias-free sequence since the counter will step
through all 256 states instead of just 255

John Fields