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Good grief!!! Don't you even know how to use Google!!! Here is the
first of 151,000 hits on 'leading edge dimmer'.
http://sound.westhost.com/lamps/dimmers.html



** Rod ( of ESP ) has been testing high efficiency lighting products for
some years now - beginning with my suggestion that the truth about CFLs
was
begging to be published somewhere on the net.

What is abundantly clear is that with very few exceptions, the products
being offered to the public and industry are wholly incompatible with
standard AC circuit protection methods and dimming equipment long used
with
incandescent lamps.

Egs

1. As little as 100 watts worth of CFLs or LED lights will regularly trip
breakers installed in lighting circuits designs to accept 2000 watts. The
tripping occurs at switch on due to unsuppressed surge spikes.

2. The same CFLs and LED lights cannot be successfully dimmed with common
triac dimmers as installed in millions of premises and WORSE STILL must
never be used in a circuit containing such a dimmer.

I doubt you will find this crucial information on any site other than ESP.


OK, so neither you nor Rod know what a 'leading edge dimmer' is,



** OK - you tell us what one is then.

Boy oh boy - YOU are just begging for it !!

You ****ing SMUG PRICK !!!



Point 1. A conventional circuit breaker would certainly be imune to
any type of transients;



** Shame how everyone's experience and maker's published specs say otherwise
!!

You bull****ting, brainless PIG !!!




Point 2. The incompatibility between conventional dimmers and CCFL /
LED lighting is well known, documented on most packages of the
lighting products, as well as the first few of the sources I found in
by the search.



** The words " non dimmable" on a pack convey NOTHING about what I posted
above and is detailed on the ESP site. A serious problem arises when a CFL
is plugged into a circuit that has a standard triac dimmer - regardless of
the setting - that makers do not mention.

Fact: most so called " non-dimmable" CFLs are dimmable with a variac.


Further, I am amused by the idea that someone purporting to be an
expert would rely on anecdotal information on something critical to
his area of expertise.



** Not one thing is anecdotal here - you BULL****TING PRICK.

I did extensive tests on many different CFLs and so did Rod Elliot - the
results are published on his site.

Your IGNORANCE IS MONSTROUS.

FOAD.



.... Phil