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Default Thoughts on this little oddity, anyone ...?


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I fired it up again, and put a sine wave in, then hooked up two channels
of my 'scope, one to the "A" output and one to the "B", both with the
same polarity, and was surprised to find that the two signals were
completely anti-phase,



** When servicing audio, knowing the polarity of the test signal and if
there is significant phase shift is important. A scope triggering off the
incoming wave will it not reveal this in single channel mode - so AF used
both channels.

A much better way is to use the External Synch input on your scope and
link it to a fixed output on your bench audio oscillator ( create on if
you have to). This way, you see instantly if the signal's phase has
reversed or has a large phase shift.

Also, triggering will be rock steady with nearly any kind of distorted,
noisy or contaminated signal on the scope screen.

Try it out for a day or two - you will never go back.



Interesting. Are you squaring up the generator's sine output, to give a
good sharp transition for syncing the scope ?


** FFS - that processing is inside any decent scope.

Supply it with 0.5volt rms sine wave and you are away.


The sync circuitry on this Hitachi scope is very good, and will produce a
perfectly stable trigger point from virtually any waveform, no matter how
complex or scruffy,


** Stable maybe, phase locked to the audio generator NO.

can see where it would be useful to be able to have a fixed known trigger
point, and from there, be able to look at relative phasing between amps,
and phase shift within an amp, using a single scope channel.



** Most scope have an internal /external switch you can flick anytime.

If you ever deal with tape recorders or tape echos, there is a big
difference with a play back signal.


.... Phil