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Global Warming Consensus Gone Up in Flames
By Bob Ellis on June 26th, 2009

Kimberley Strassel at the Wall Street Journal has a great piece on the
global warming debate and how Al Gore’s much-professed “consensus” has
crumbled to ruin.

Her article lists a number of people who are no longer following Al
Gore’s herd on the issue of anthropogenic global warming, and also
provides some insight into how this fragile “consensus” has been
devastated by science over conjecture and hysteria:

In April, the Polish Academy of Sciences published a document
challenging man-made global warming. In the Czech Republic, where
President Vaclav Klaus remains a leading skeptic, today only 11% of
the population believes humans play a role. In France, President
Nicolas Sarkozy wants to tap Claude Allegre to lead the country’s new
ministry of industry and innovation. Twenty years ago Mr. Allegre was
among the first to trill about man-made global warming, but the
geochemist has since recanted. New Zealand last year elected a new
government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old
cap-and-trade program.


The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen.
Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the
U.N. — 13 times the number who authored the U.N.’s 2007 climate
summary for policymakers. Joanne Simpson, the world’s first woman to
receive a Ph.D. in meteorology, expressed relief upon her retirement
last year that she was finally free to speak “frankly” of her
nonbelief. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, a Japanese environmental physical
chemist who contributed to a U.N. climate report, dubs man-made
warming “the worst scientific scandal in history.” Norway’s Ivar
Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for physics, decries it as the “new
religion.” A group of 54 noted physicists, led by Princeton’s Will
Happer, is demanding the American Physical Society revise its position
that the science is settled. (Both Nature and Science magazines have
refused to run the physicists’ open letter.)

Proof of concensus or lack thereof is not an indication of the
reliability of a given position; after all, the majority has been
proved wrong countless times throughout history, and someone has to be
the first person to be right about a new conclusion.

But when you have a situation where the more information we have on a
given contention, the fewer people buy into that contention, well,
that speaks powerfully that the contention was a bad one from the
start.

I have long said that the contention that human activity–over more
obvious and more powerful natural forces–is having a significant
impact on global temperatures just doesn’t pass the smell test.

To put it another way, it seems as if Occam’s Razor has been forgotten
in the modern world’s infatuation with wild and exciting ideas. In
case you’re not familiar with Occam’s Razor, it is a principle that
basically says assumptions should be avoided where ever possible. Or
to put it in plain language, of all reasonable explanations for a
phenomenon, the simplest is usually the correct one.

Sadly, objective examinations of information and assumptive restraint
have been abandoned in today’s world in favor of politically correct
agendas which are fueled by protection of reputation and ego. In
other words, instead of behaving like objective investigators, our
modern scientific and legislative community behaves like teenagers
caught up in herd-instinct pursuit of “the right clothes” or “the
right CD” or “the right look.”

I can only hope a sufficient number of the American people wake up to
the reality that the theory of AGW stinks…and that they get ticked off
enough to wake up a sufficient number of representatives in congress
to stop this mad rush to destruction before it’s too late.
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http://lmliberty.wordpress.com/2009/...venient-truth/


..July 8, 2009 • 3:00 PM
..Global temperatures DROPPED .74°F since Al “Hot Air” Gore released
‘An Inconvenient Truth’
Climate Kooks suffer from mental illness. That’s undeniable. I think
it’s a form of schizophrenia. In the good old days, the climate kooks
would be institutionalized and most likely lobotomized. Oh how I long
for the good old days.

Real science has concluded, based on fact and data (NOT theory and
models) that the earth has cooled almost three-quarters of a degree
Fahrenheit since that dope Al Gore produced his fictional movie, “An
Inconvienient Truth.” For those of you in Europe or Canada, that’s .4
celsius.

Here’s the best part. We have a kook president that wants to legislate
away “global warming,” and it’s not even happening! Only in America! I
told you, it’s about money and power.

Last month, June 2009 showed us yet another global temperature drop.
Yet, we still have kooks running around legislating the climate,
idiots screaming “do something.” Do something about what?

According to the latest data … “For the record, this month’s Al Gore /
‘An Inconvenient Truth’ Index indicates that global temperatures have
plunged approximately .74°F (.39°C) since ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ was
released.” (see satellite temperature chart here with key dates noted,
courtesy of www.Algorelied.com – The global satellite temperature data
comes from the University of Alabama in Huntsville. Also see: 8 Year
Downtrend Continues in Global Temps)

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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:37:33 -0700, Billy
wrote:

In article ,
(Vladimir Tschenko Badenov) wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:19:12 -0700, Billy
wrote:

In article ,
(Vladimir Tschenko Badenov) wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:36:05 -0400, Karl Kleinpaste
wrote:

Billy writes:
When are YOU going to get alarmed, when, except for the zoos, the only
animals left are pets and food animals? Our biosphere is dying, and we
can only save it, one raccoon at a time.

Geez...you haven't looked out my back door lately.

I live on 15 acres of nowhereness, northwest of Pittsburgh near the Ohio
line. On any given day, 20 or 30 deer wander by, mostly at the treeline
that abuts the open field of the next parcel, ~150ft behind the house.
Local turkey flocks are positively routine, and I don't mean 5, I mean
30 or 40 at a time. Raccoons aren't too common, but I see them now and
again. This year, there is a family of foxes living in the woods
somewhere just southwest of the house who step now and again into the
yard, generally at dawn or dusk.

The deer congregate most days in what we've long called "town hall",
which is a low hollow inside the treeline on the far side of the power
tower right-of-way, ~200yds due east of the house...except during
hunting season, when they disappear for parts unknown. They figured out
long ago when they need to make themselves scarce.

Then there's the possums that often befriend our cats for playful romps
after dark. Add in the moles and voles that the cats hunt during the
day. I can't say I'm sorry to see our feline Mighty Hunters having
success in that department, as long as they don't bring gifts (or
[worse] half-gifts) into the house. Coyotes avoid the house, but they
are known to live in the woods down near the creek, still on my property
but well toward the northeast corner of it.

No bears these days, at least none that we know of. But small stuff
like toads and whatnot are everywhere.

I could feed my household using nothing but a crossbow, without ever
having to step outside the yard immediately surrounding the house. All
I have to do is wait for the game to show up.

It's a funny view of "the dying biosphere" that some folks have.

Billy has bought into the hoax.

And your cite that it is a hoax is . . .?

Billy has read the numbers and understand them.


Billy believes that global warming is man-made; man can reverse it;
and if man doesn't reverse it, will be necessarily catastrophic.

Speaking for myself, I don't like the out look.
You didn't look at
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?cha...ID=00037A5 D-
A938-150E-A93883414B7F0000
"Impact from the Deep", did you?


Bill has drunk the Goron Kool-Aid.

I don't talk Neo-Nutcake. What are you trying to say?

Billy doesn't know that there is no longer a consensus.

Citation please.

Billy doesn't know that the global temp has dropped .74 since "An
Inconvenient Truth."

Cite please.

Happy to edify.

Let me know when you do that.
In the meantime the Union of Concerned Scientists
(you remember them, they were right about the ozone hole,
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...ience/faq-abou
t-ozone-depletion-and.html
and "acid rain".
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/coalvswind/c02c.html )
really don't like "Global Warming" that much either.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...l_warming_101/
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn