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Larry Jaques
 
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Default OT- Writer Mark Steyn Compares Gun(g) Ho America To "Civilized" Europe or Why Law Abiding Gun Owners Reduce Crime

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:58:04 -0500, Gary Coffman
brought forth from the murky depths:

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 22:01:31 +0000, Mark Rand wrote:
No comment one way or the other. Just interesting:-
http://ije.oupjournals.org/cgi/reprint/27/2/214.pdf


The most interesting thing is the implied concept that a "firearm death"
is somehow more awful than any other form of homicide or suicide.


The term was probably coined "for the children!" Other than that,
the CDC data seems to be fairly decent.

Riddle me this: Why is an epidemiological society looking
into firearm deaths and/or suicide? The term is defined
as "That which deals with the incidence, distribution, and
control of disease in a population."

Firearms and suicide are diseases now?!?


What the numbers seem to show is that in places where firearms are
easily available, they are the tool of choice, but where they aren't easily
available, other methods are used. No big surprise there.


Supporting your statement, 98% of suicides in the UK used methods
other than firearms since they're less available there.
http://cebmh.warne.ox.ac.uk/cebmh/elmh/nelmh/suicide/statistics/methods.html

(And look at those suicide figures. Asia is VERY depressed while most
of "civilised" Europe is ahead of the USA in figures, Mr. Steyn.)


Why are suicides included with crimes, anyway? And why aren't new
forms of suicide included in reports? Methods such as smoking,
drinking, overeating, and "talking on cell phone while driving"?
Advanced societies, huh? ;
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