Got a friend starting to look into a table saw, and he just read the
review in Workbench that gave the Craftsman OR35504 hybrid Editors
choice. I have been pointing him toward the Grizzly G1023SL

Since both are about the same price, AND he has been using my Unisaw
for the last 6 months - which would YOU suggest is the best for him.
Both weigh about the same, and with a mobility base both should be as
convenient to roll around his garage. I personally think the 3hp
motor alone would tip this to the Grizzly Also, he already has a 220v
outlet in the garage, so that is NOT a factor

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John

I love my Grizzly left tilt. It was dead on right out of the box. I
have had no problems with it.

Ed
John wrote:
Got a friend starting to look into a table saw, and he just read the
review in Workbench that gave the Craftsman OR35504 hybrid Editors
choice. I have been pointing him toward the Grizzly G1023SL

Since both are about the same price, AND he has been using my Unisaw
for the last 6 months - which would YOU suggest is the best for him.
Both weigh about the same, and with a mobility base both should be as
convenient to roll around his garage. I personally think the 3hp
motor alone would tip this to the Grizzly Also, he already has a
220v
outlet in the garage, so that is NOT a factor

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John

reasons to choose the grizzly over craftsman
1) 3 honest H.P. (not rated at max starting current like craftsman)
2) the Trunions are 5 to 6 times more
masive (more iron = less vibration)
3) three belt drive system (not single)
4)thicker castiron top(see#2)
5) Built for the commerical market, not the home market
I upgraded to the Grizzly Last Fall and could not be happier.Every adjusted
was dead on out of the Box . I used a Dial Indicater and no measurement was
out more than .002"
If you look at the guts of the Craftsman, all they did was mount the
contracter type trunnions the cabinet instead of the top and move the motor
inside
Enough Said,

Dave

"John" wrote in message
...

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John




Reasons to pick Craftsman over Griz? I can't think of any!
Seems to me the Griz is a bit heavier, plus the motor you mention. 1-3/4 HP
120/240 volt on the Craftsman versus the 3 HP 240 volt on the Griz.
Seems simple to me, buy the Grizzly
Greg

Hi John,

I went through the same thing recently and
bought the Griz.

After checking out the Craftsman, there is
no comparison. The motor, trunion action
(the handheels on the 1023 move like a
finely tuned watch - silky smooth), the
fences are comparable.

I've had it for less than a month. I was
amazed when it passed the "nickel test"
straight out of the box. Set the nickel on
end and then hit the "ON" switch. That
nickel didn't budge - no matter where on
the top I put it.

I could go on, but IMHO your friend will
thank you for recommending this saw.

Lou

In article , John
wrote:

Got a friend starting to look into a table saw, and he just read the
review in Workbench that gave the Craftsman OR35504 hybrid Editors
choice. I have been pointing him toward the Grizzly G1023SL

Since both are about the same price, AND he has been using my Unisaw
for the last 6 months - which would YOU suggest is the best for him.
Both weigh about the same, and with a mobility base both should be as
convenient to roll around his garage. I personally think the 3hp
motor alone would tip this to the Grizzly Also, he already has a 220v
outlet in the garage, so that is NOT a factor

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John

Hi, I bought the Griz 1023s last summer, love it, no problems....

Tony
wrote in message
oups.com...
I love my Grizzly left tilt. It was dead on right out of the box. I
have had no problems with it.

Ed
John wrote:
Got a friend starting to look into a table saw, and he just read the
review in Workbench that gave the Craftsman OR35504 hybrid Editors
choice. I have been pointing him toward the Grizzly G1023SL

Since both are about the same price, AND he has been using my Unisaw
for the last 6 months - which would YOU suggest is the best for him.
Both weigh about the same, and with a mobility base both should be as
convenient to roll around his garage. I personally think the 3hp
motor alone would tip this to the Grizzly Also, he already has a
220v
outlet in the garage, so that is NOT a factor

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John

Dave Anderson babbles:


reasons to choose the grizzly over craftsman
1) 3 honest H.P. (not rated at max starting current like craftsman)
2) the Trunions are 5 to 6 times more
masive (more iron = less vibration)
3) three belt drive system (not single)
4)thicker castiron top(see#2)
5) Built for the commerical market, not the home market
I upgraded to the Grizzly Last Fall and could not be happier.Every adjusted
was dead on out of the Box . I used a Dial Indicater and no measurement was
out more than .002"
If you look at the guts of the Craftsman, all they did was mount the
contracter type trunnions the cabinet instead of the top and move the motor
inside
Enough Said,

The Grizzly may well be the better choice. Certainly it is more powerful, and
it is a damned good saw. But your points don't bear examination.

1. The Craftsman hybrid is rate at 1-3/4 HP.

2. The Grizzly trunnions MAY be about 50% heavier. It's been a while since I've
seen Grizz trunnions.

3. The single belt on the Craftsman is a multi-V poly on machined pulleys, and
is actually more effective than a 1-3/4 HP saw needs.

4. Dunno. I haven't measured either one. Have you? If you have, post the
thickness of your Grizz top, and I'll go measure the Craftsman in my shop, and
we'll KNOW.

5. Nope. It is built primarily for the hobby woodworker, as is the Craftsman.

6. The trunnions in the Craftsman are nothing like contractorf saw trunnions.

You said way more than enough, not much of which was accurate.


Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

Charlie

Bottom line, Which would YOU recommend to a friend like I described.

It would probably be a no brainer for HIM if we were looking at the
Craftsman vs a Unisaw - but at this price point, I don't really see
any reason for choosing the Craftsman over the Grizzly.

John

On 22 Jan 2005 20:43:21 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

Dave Anderson babbles:


reasons to choose the grizzly over craftsman
1) 3 honest H.P. (not rated at max starting current like craftsman)
2) the Trunions are 5 to 6 times more
masive (more iron = less vibration)
3) three belt drive system (not single)
4)thicker castiron top(see#2)
5) Built for the commerical market, not the home market
I upgraded to the Grizzly Last Fall and could not be happier.Every adjusted
was dead on out of the Box . I used a Dial Indicater and no measurement was
out more than .002"
If you look at the guts of the Craftsman, all they did was mount the
contracter type trunnions the cabinet instead of the top and move the motor
inside
Enough Said,

The Grizzly may well be the better choice. Certainly it is more powerful, and
it is a damned good saw. But your points don't bear examination.

1. The Craftsman hybrid is rate at 1-3/4 HP.

2. The Grizzly trunnions MAY be about 50% heavier. It's been a while since I've
seen Grizz trunnions.

3. The single belt on the Craftsman is a multi-V poly on machined pulleys, and
is actually more effective than a 1-3/4 HP saw needs.

4. Dunno. I haven't measured either one. Have you? If you have, post the
thickness of your Grizz top, and I'll go measure the Craftsman in my shop, and
we'll KNOW.

5. Nope. It is built primarily for the hobby woodworker, as is the Craftsman.

6. The trunnions in the Craftsman are nothing like contractorf saw trunnions.

You said way more than enough, not much of which was accurate.


Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

Been using a Grizzly 1023Z table saw in my shop since 2000 and haven't had a single problem. Great stuff for the price!

Try the TS 2000 blade from Ridge Carbide Tool:
http://www.ridgecarbidetool.com/html/table_radius.htm


Ed
Boston Accent Furniture

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Turn your woodworking into a full-time income and fire your boss!
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"John" wrote in message ...
Got a friend starting to look into a table saw, and he just read the
review in Workbench that gave the Craftsman OR35504 hybrid Editors
choice. I have been pointing him toward the Grizzly G1023SL

Since both are about the same price, AND he has been using my Unisaw
for the last 6 months - which would YOU suggest is the best for him.
Both weigh about the same, and with a mobility base both should be as
convenient to roll around his garage. I personally think the 3hp
motor alone would tip this to the Grizzly Also, he already has a 220v
outlet in the garage, so that is NOT a factor

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John

Hi (again) John,

As another perspective on my previous pro-Griz
post, it should be mentioned that the 1023SL is now
almost $1100 w/shipping. The Craftsman can be
purchased for under $800 from what I've seen
on this forum (using sales + coupons etc).

In reality, you are not comparing apples to
oranges, but maybe oranges to tangerines (?).

$300 is quite a difference in tool land. I think
that I remember a post from someone who got it
for around $700.

At those prices, you could not go wrong with the Craftsman.
For myself, I wanted a great saw that would be much
better than the contractor-type import which
I have used for the last 16+ years.

I did not want to buy another TS just to think that I
would want yet another upgrade in 5 years or so. Yet,
I did not (as a hobbyist) feel it necessary to spend
$2K+ on a Unisaw or PM.

In the end, it comes down to $.

Lou

In article , John
wrote:

Got a friend starting to look into a table saw, and he just read the
review in Workbench that gave the Craftsman OR35504 hybrid Editors
choice. I have been pointing him toward the Grizzly G1023SL

Since both are about the same price, AND he has been using my Unisaw
for the last 6 months - which would YOU suggest is the best for him.
Both weigh about the same, and with a mobility base both should be as
convenient to roll around his garage. I personally think the 3hp
motor alone would tip this to the Grizzly Also, he already has a 220v
outlet in the garage, so that is NOT a factor

So, any commnents?? Reasons to choose the Craftsman over the
Grizzly??

John