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Yet more nailgun follies, or, why not to tape down the trigger...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm
LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) ‹ A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". |
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Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had
a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". |
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Ya know, I can't think of any framing gun capable of handling a 4" nail.
All the ones I've ever used had 3 1/2" max capacity except a palm nailer..... hmmmm........naw, he couldn't have done that with a palm nailer, could he? --dave "Woodcrafter" wrote in message u... Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". |
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Woodcrafter wrote:
Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". Pain is a very interesting thing that way. I've had plenty of things punctured where I didn't feel any pain (including my nose, my tongue, and several other, less "sensitive" body parts) It really depends on how you're wired, basically. Nerve receptors aren't exact science and you will often feel pain in the "wrong" place, especially in situations like this. I mean, how many nerve endings are there in the top of your mouth and your sinus cavities? As for blood, unless the nail is removed there's no reason to expect a lot of blood either. Still, makes you think twice doesn't it? bkr |
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(snip) Weird, how could you not feel that?
No kiddin' the article said he "unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier" If he "unknowingly" did it, how'd he pinpoint that it was 6 days ago? And, more importantly, how the heck did he get it through the roof of his mouth and into his skull pointing straight up AND not realise it? BULL! I can touch the top of my mouth with my tongue and can feel it, so I can't imagine a framing spike blasting through the roof of my mouth and into my skull and "not realise it". Either he was goofing off and knew exactly what he did, or this was one helluva stupid botched suicide attempt. I use a framing gun almost daily, and have seen quite a few accidents. Unless the business end of the gun is very near a body part when it fires, the nail generally sticks out, at least enough to remove it. The real question is why did he have that gun in his mouth to begin with. That was no "accident" , there is his story, and there is the truth. He's a TRUE dumbass, and full of BS. --dave "bkr" wrote in message ... Woodcrafter wrote: Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". Pain is a very interesting thing that way. I've had plenty of things punctured where I didn't feel any pain (including my nose, my tongue, and several other, less "sensitive" body parts) It really depends on how you're wired, basically. Nerve receptors aren't exact science and you will often feel pain in the "wrong" place, especially in situations like this. I mean, how many nerve endings are there in the top of your mouth and your sinus cavities? As for blood, unless the nail is removed there's no reason to expect a lot of blood either. Still, makes you think twice doesn't it? bkr |
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I guess the thought that maybe the nail itself and it's position in the
guy's head might have affected his memory hasn't occurred to anyone? As for the dating, perhaps either the guy or his wife or fellow workers were able to recall when he worked with his nail gun the last time? Or maybe the whole thing is BS. Who cares? John Emmons "Dave Jackson" wrote in message k.net... (snip) Weird, how could you not feel that? No kiddin' the article said he "unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier" If he "unknowingly" did it, how'd he pinpoint that it was 6 days ago? And, more importantly, how the heck did he get it through the roof of his mouth and into his skull pointing straight up AND not realise it? BULL! I can touch the top of my mouth with my tongue and can feel it, so I can't imagine a framing spike blasting through the roof of my mouth and into my skull and "not realise it". Either he was goofing off and knew exactly what he did, or this was one helluva stupid botched suicide attempt. I use a framing gun almost daily, and have seen quite a few accidents. Unless the business end of the gun is very near a body part when it fires, the nail generally sticks out, at least enough to remove it. The real question is why did he have that gun in his mouth to begin with. That was no "accident" , there is his story, and there is the truth. He's a TRUE dumbass, and full of BS. --dave "bkr" wrote in message ... Woodcrafter wrote: Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". Pain is a very interesting thing that way. I've had plenty of things punctured where I didn't feel any pain (including my nose, my tongue, and several other, less "sensitive" body parts) It really depends on how you're wired, basically. Nerve receptors aren't exact science and you will often feel pain in the "wrong" place, especially in situations like this. I mean, how many nerve endings are there in the top of your mouth and your sinus cavities? As for blood, unless the nail is removed there's no reason to expect a lot of blood either. Still, makes you think twice doesn't it? bkr |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:34:17 GMT, Paul Hays
wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) ‹ A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. He was just letting the brad hold it until the glue dried. |
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When is the last time (or even first time for that matter) that your dentist
took a full skull X-ray? Every time I've gone to the dentist all they do is those annoying little "bite down on this" X-ray of the small area of your mouth they are working on. Most dentists I know don't even have the capacity to do a full skull X-ray. "Dave Jackson" wrote in message k.net... (snip) Weird, how could you not feel that? No kiddin' the article said he "unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier" If he "unknowingly" did it, how'd he pinpoint that it was 6 days ago? And, more importantly, how the heck did he get it through the roof of his mouth and into his skull pointing straight up AND not realise it? BULL! I can touch the top of my mouth with my tongue and can feel it, so I can't imagine a framing spike blasting through the roof of my mouth and into my skull and "not realise it". Either he was goofing off and knew exactly what he did, or this was one helluva stupid botched suicide attempt. I use a framing gun almost daily, and have seen quite a few accidents. Unless the business end of the gun is very near a body part when it fires, the nail generally sticks out, at least enough to remove it. The real question is why did he have that gun in his mouth to begin with. That was no "accident" , there is his story, and there is the truth. He's a TRUE dumbass, and full of BS. --dave "bkr" wrote in message ... Woodcrafter wrote: Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". Pain is a very interesting thing that way. I've had plenty of things punctured where I didn't feel any pain (including my nose, my tongue, and several other, less "sensitive" body parts) It really depends on how you're wired, basically. Nerve receptors aren't exact science and you will often feel pain in the "wrong" place, especially in situations like this. I mean, how many nerve endings are there in the top of your mouth and your sinus cavities? As for blood, unless the nail is removed there's no reason to expect a lot of blood either. Still, makes you think twice doesn't it? bkr |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:30:51 GMT, Brian Henderson
wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:34:17 GMT, Paul Hays wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) ‹ A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. He was just letting the brad hold it until the glue dried. I can hardly believe it took this long for someone to bring up this one... golf clap Mike Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin |
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Just FYI: It was on CNN tonight. The story is true - he's
recovering in Hospital. They even showed the x-rays. CNN thought it was kind of a strange event "suicide", and the hospital is quoted as saying "no". This is the second time in the past year, that someone has come into their hospital with a nail embeded in their head and not knowing it. Somehow they've ruled out "suicide" as the motive. Personally, some people shouldn't be allowed to own these toys. Pat On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:21:52 GMT, "Dave Jackson" wrote: (snip) Weird, how could you not feel that? No kiddin' the article said he "unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier" If he "unknowingly" did it, how'd he pinpoint that it was 6 days ago? And, more importantly, how the heck did he get it through the roof of his mouth and into his skull pointing straight up AND not realise it? BULL! I can touch the top of my mouth with my tongue and can feel it, so I can't imagine a framing spike blasting through the roof of my mouth and into my skull and "not realise it". Either he was goofing off and knew exactly what he did, or this was one helluva stupid botched suicide attempt. I use a framing gun almost daily, and have seen quite a few accidents. Unless the business end of the gun is very near a body part when it fires, the nail generally sticks out, at least enough to remove it. The real question is why did he have that gun in his mouth to begin with. That was no "accident" , there is his story, and there is the truth. He's a TRUE dumbass, and full of BS. --dave "bkr" wrote in message ... Woodcrafter wrote: Weird, how could you not feel that? If anything, he would certainly have had a bit of blood in his mouth. I wonder how much the truth was bent, and by who? :-) Ouch! -- Regards, Dean Bielanowski Editor, Online Tool Reviews http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com Over 70 woodworking product reviews online! ------------------------------------------------------------ Latest 6 Reviews: - Infinity Kitchen Making Router Bit Set - Jorgensen Cabinet Master Clamps - Sherwood Lathe Copy Attachment - Ryobi Right Angle Drill - Porter Cable COIL250 Coil Nailer - Taunton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Furniture & Cabinet Construction ------------------------------------------------------------ "Paul Hays" wrote in message thlink.net... http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat...il-skull_x.htm LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) A dentist found the source of the toothache Patrick Lawler was complaining about on the roof of his mouth: a four-inch nail the construction worker had unknowingly embedded in his skull six days earlier. It doesn't actually say that he'd taped the trigger, but blamed the accident on a "backfire". Pain is a very interesting thing that way. I've had plenty of things punctured where I didn't feel any pain (including my nose, my tongue, and several other, less "sensitive" body parts) It really depends on how you're wired, basically. Nerve receptors aren't exact science and you will often feel pain in the "wrong" place, especially in situations like this. I mean, how many nerve endings are there in the top of your mouth and your sinus cavities? As for blood, unless the nail is removed there's no reason to expect a lot of blood either. Still, makes you think twice doesn't it? bkr |
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Doug Brown wrote:
your mouth they are working on. Most dentists I know don't even have the capacity to do a full skull X-ray. Or the spin around your head thing. The "pan scan" I think. You're right, actually. Though I suppose an oral surgeon might have a full blown X-ray machine. Or maybe the X-ray depicted came from the surgeon who ultimately extracted the nail, and the dental X-ray only showed a piece of it. No, probably not. I looked at the picture again. Those pan scan things don't show anything that high up, and neither would standard bite blocks. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or what? I assumed it meant that the gun appeared to fire normally, but he didn't see a nail emerge, so he just figured it was a faulty discharge. I can't envision a nail coming out backwards, at least not on my nailgun. Shoot forwards and ricochet, yes, but that's about it. |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:07:11 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote: This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or what? I think it means that the body of the nailgun flew backwards and socked him in the mush. He knew he'd been hit by it, just didn't realise it had also fired a nail. |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:07:11 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or what? I think it means that the body of the nailgun flew backwards and socked him in the mush. He knew he'd been hit by it, just didn't realise it had also fired a nail. I've not heard enough fact to have a clue as to what actually happened...the statement he made in the hospital that I saw wasn't even decipherable as he was obviously still coming out from under sedation. What I think I heard the news commentator say was that he knew one nail had fired, but wasn't aware of the second one that got him. (And implies that one reason he didn't realize he'd been hit was that he saw one nail go flying so had no reason to think a second was in him. But that's my interpretation of what I think was said.) As near as I can tell, the second could (and based on the penetration in the x-ray almost had to) have been a richocet or at least fired while the gun was a fair distance from him or it would have pentrated much farther--those suckers are flying pretty fast when they leave the muzzle. So, my guess is, the first one caused the kick back which caused an inadvertent second to be fired which richoceted and got him. May have been a failure of the trip mechanism, but that has happened to me on the rare occasion... |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:07:11 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or what? I think it means that the body of the nailgun flew backwards and socked him in the mush. He knew he'd been hit by it, just didn't realise it had also fired a nail. I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But, every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act. Hanging upside down with mouth open? |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:37:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But, every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act. Hanging upside down with mouth open? Expecially while being hit in the mouth by _back_ of the gun.... |
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"Old Nick" On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:37:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But, every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act. Hanging upside down with mouth open? Expecially while being hit in the mouth by _back_ of the gun.... His story doesn't wash. I think he was biting his nails and is too embarrassed to admit it. |
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"Fletis Humplebacker" ! wrote:
"Old Nick" On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:37:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But, every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act. Hanging upside down with mouth open? Expecially while being hit in the mouth by _back_ of the gun.... His story doesn't wash. I think he was biting his nails and is too embarrassed to admit it. LOL! |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:27:58 -0800, "Fletis Humplebacker" ! vaguely
proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email chnchnch! His story doesn't wash. I think he was biting his nails and is too embarrassed to admit it. |
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Glenna Rose wrote:
they didn't mention a dentist, I don't recall that but that he went to the doctor. Perhaps someone took liberties with the story to make it sound "better." I'll tell you for certain, I find this much more believable I saw it on my local BFE TV station too. They said it was a dentist. Showed an interview with the guy with his head stitched up. (Caught a glimpse of the idiot light at Mom's house.) than women going into labor with a full-term pregnancy and claiming they didn't know they were pregnant! I know someone this happened to for real. She was extremely fat. She had twins, and never had a clue she was pregnant until she went to the ER with severe abdominal pain that she thought was digestion-related. On the lighter side, maybe he's related to Tim Taylor. He's self employed, and doesn't have any insurance. If an open gallbladder deal costs $50,000 I shudder to think what that kind of thing is going to set him back. Probably nothing. I think I'd be finding a bankruptcy attorney in his shoes. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:45:53 -0500, Silvan
wrote: He's self employed, and doesn't have any insurance. If an open gallbladder deal costs $50,000 I shudder to think what that kind of thing is going to set him back. Talkshow career. He's got 15 minutes - best get on with them. |
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"Backfire" , like "it just went off" is reporter speak meaning "we really
have no idea what we are talking about". "Upscale" wrote in message ... "Lobby Dosser" wrote in message This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or what? I assumed it meant that the gun appeared to fire normally, but he didn't see a nail emerge, so he just figured it was a faulty discharge. I can't envision a nail coming out backwards, at least not on my nailgun. Shoot forwards and ricochet, yes, but that's about it. |
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