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I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like
to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper |
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On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 5:32:54 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper Did you do an image search using your favorite search engine? |
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On 26 Sep 2016 09:32:52 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper This product is quite robust - but a bit ugly. http://www.leevalley.com/en/Hardware...,43648&p=32145 Look around for better prices - or check the Re-Store / used outlets. Check their " Instr" link for some install advice - good to consider, regardless of the product that you buy. John T. |
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On 9/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? I used the wall lumber storage system from Rockler, and designed and built a sheet goods rack to go underneath. I don't see the racks I used on Rockler's website and it looks like they've cheapened their offering (and raised the price), and distance between standards they show on their website is ridiculous. In any event, here's mine, although I'd be tempted to build them myself today. Wall Storage: https://goo.gl/photos/BFCFieF6UodE7Q4c9 Sheet goods: Dimensions: https://goo.gl/photos/MovXFYg912iNjk6k8 As Built: https://goo.gl/photos/985tx96GAFJai1ky6 Been using it for about five years now and I'm basically happy with it for the size of the shop ... but it is a desperation measure due to shop size. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 9/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use these that I from from Griz about 10 years ago. IIRC Woodcraft sells this stile too. Very HD. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-W...campaign=zPage |
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On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 9/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use these that I from from Griz about 10 years ago. IIRC Woodcraft sells this stile too. Very HD. As opposed to a "rail"? ;-) http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-W...campaign=zPage |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:
On 9/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use these that I from from Griz about 10 years ago. IIRC Woodcraft sells this stile too. Very HD. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-W...campaign=zPage When I built my shed (12'x10'), I doubled-up four of the studs along one side, notching the inner face of each pair of studs sufficent to slide a length of two-by-four horizontally between the the two studs for each of the four locations across the length of the shed, and three locations vertically (for three shelves). The center shelf currently has seven 8/4 x 8" x 120" Rgh Cherry on the outer half and twelve 4/4 x 6-7 x 96-132" S2S Red Oak on the inner half. The lower shelf is mainly white oak, and the top shelf is some mahogany and a 25 b.f. of dalbergia nigra (pre-CITES). |
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"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message web.com... I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? I made my own... My problem was that the lumber rack was to be on a concrete block wall which would have required a lot of PITA drilling if I depended on the CB wall for support. I didn't. Instead... 1. 5 - 2x4 uprights, floor to ceiling length 2. Uprights hooked together on edge at 24" interval by two pieces of 3/4" ply about 5-6 inches wide set into the uprights at about 18-24" from top and bottom of uprights. 3. Hooked together uprights were attached to wall with screws into the furring strips under the drywall. 4. Arms are 21" 2x4s lapped on each side with pieces of 3/4" ply; the ply pieces are longer than the 2x4 so the ply fully overlaps the uprights and are attached to them with 2 - 1/4" bolts. Each upright has four arms. Now, that isn't going to hold up much weight before the screws pull out of the furring strips so... 5. I made a plinth of PT 2x4s that is butted against the uprights and Tapconed to the floor. It has a piece of 1/4 ply on top so that sawdust doesn't accumulate inside. That helps hold the rack up but not all that much. What really holds it up is... 6. A 2x4 across the front of the uprights at the ceiling and lagged to each truss. The top set of arms was positioned so that long pieces lumber could extend over the top of a door. They can extend to the other side too. I could get 16' lengths on the arms but there would be a 4' overhang on each end...too much except to get something out of the way temporarily. At the moment I have about 1500 pounds of lumber on it, steady as a rock. I had 200 bf of mahogany on one shelf. |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
: I use these that I from from Griz about 10 years ago. IIRC Woodcraft sells this stile too. Very HD. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-W...t-Pair-/H2535? utm_campaign=zPage Those look very much like the ones Menards sells. They feel heavy duty, and if installed properly should hold quite a bit. They're the ones I'm leaning towards. Puckdropper |
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Swingman wrote in
: *snip* Sheet goods: Dimensions: https://goo.gl/photos/MovXFYg912iNjk6k8 As Built: https://goo.gl/photos/985tx96GAFJai1ky6 Been using it for about five years now and I'm basically happy with it for the size of the shop ... but it is a desperation measure due to shop size. I like that sheet goods rack. Looks like it'll be easy to flip through pieces to find what I'm looking for. It looks like it could be built in an evening, the hardest part would literally be cutting the plywood for the base. Puckdropper |
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On 9/26/2016 11:49 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
I like that sheet goods rack. Looks like it'll be easy to flip through pieces to find what I'm looking for. It looks like it could be built in an evening, the hardest part would literally be cutting the plywood for the base. Be my guest. I have the SketchUp file if it would help. Be glad to email it to you. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use a surplus pallet rack I got for free that looks a lot like this, minus the wire shelves: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7f44ziTE_N4/maxresdefault.jpg Mine is all green, 6 shelf beams (3 shelves). It measures OD 98"W X 30"D X 90"H, had to take 30" off the orig height so it would stand up in the shop. |
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On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 3:13:08 PM UTC-4, Spalted Walt wrote:
Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use a surplus pallet rack I got for free that looks a lot like this, minus the wire shelves: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7f44ziTE_N4/maxresdefault.jpg Mine is all green, A Festool wood storage rack! Who knew? 6 shelf beams (3 shelves). It measures OD 98"W X 30"D X 90"H, had to take 30" off the orig height so it would stand up in the shop. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 3:13:08 PM UTC-4, Spalted Walt wrote: Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use a surplus pallet rack I got for free that looks a lot like this, minus the wire shelves: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7f44ziTE_N4/maxresdefault.jpg Mine is all green, A Festool wood storage rack! Who knew? Wrong tint http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDU2WDEwODI=/z/s2AAAOSw091VBaIE/$_1.JPG |
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On 09/26/2016 2:13 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
.... I use a surplus pallet rack I got for free ... That's a definite "u suk!" find, there...I've been looking for ages and everybody's awful proud of 'em... |
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On 09/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. ... What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? .... In the old barn there are 6" columns 8ft on center with one side of the driveway where old milking stalls stood having a double row only about 6ft apart. I had some old 1" shaft material so I drilled thru the columns and inserted shaft sections extending about 2ft. That leaves enough room to walk along. I then filled in w/ single 2X6 tied to the mow floor joists overhead and added the intermediate sag support... But, not everybody has a WWI-era 40x70 (roughly) barn to repurpose, either... The real kicker for it as the shop is the bottom floor height is only 7ft; there's 30ft headroom to the center beam in the mow but that would mean arranging for getting everything up there which I'd love to do but haven't tackled... |
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On 9/26/2016 5:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper Home made is best. You will get what you need, hold more, and it will cost less. I used 2x4 uprights, w/ 2x8s. The 2x8s are cut at an angle for supports. You could also do 2x4 supports with ply doubler or tripplers. You then get to layout your own system. I ran the 2x4 uprights from floor to floor joist above. They are tied in with carriage bolts to the joists, and held away from the wall a few inches, and a little foot on the bottom holds the spacing from the wall. This allows air, or small panels to go behind it. Mine are 16" on center. -- Jeff |
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On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 4:32:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I started off storing horizontally but eventually went to vertical storage, simply because it gave me better access to the wood and more storage per square foot. |
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On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 11:52:11 AM UTC-5, nor... wrote:
Swingman wrote in Sheet goods: As Built: https://goo.gl/photos/985tx96GAFJai1ky6 I like that sheet goods rack. Puckdropper Hah! I'm wondering if Puck is, also, asking about something he's not admitting to, that he's as guilty, as some of us (hoarders!), that we tend to keep all sorts of "scrap" and it starts to overwhelm our storage/work areas. Some of my various storage systems are.... disorganized. Lots of smaller (length) stuff is best described as just heaped in areas, some horizontal, some vertical. I'm not qualified to recommend a racking system.... *unless, maybe, you want a system that racks. Some of you guys sure have a clean shop. Is that normal? That sheet good rack does look good, though. For my scenario, I'd be tempted to put heavy duty casters on it, to move it out or out of the way, when needed. I have an area in the shop's garage (lots of sheet goods) that could use a wheeled cart. Maybe, center casters lower, than on the ends, to turn on a dime? Sonny |
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On 9/27/2016 6:43 AM, Sonny wrote:
Hah! I'm wondering if Puck is, also, asking about something he's not admitting to, that he's as guilty, as some of us (hoarders!), that we tend to keep all sorts of "scrap" and it starts to overwhelm our storage/work areas. Some of my various storage systems are.... disorganized. Lots of smaller (length) stuff is best described as just heaped in areas, some horizontal, some vertical. I'm not qualified to recommend a racking system.... *unless, maybe, you want a system that racks. Some of you guys sure have a clean shop. Is that normal? That sheet good rack does look good, though. For my scenario, I'd be tempted to put heavy duty casters on it, to move it out or out of the way, when needed. I have an area in the shop's garage (lots of sheet goods) that could use a wheeled cart. Maybe, center casters lower, than on the ends, to turn on a dime? Yep, as you see below, you're right about pack rat creep. Thought about casters when designing/building it, but my shop is so small there is no place to move it to: https://goo.gl/photos/czP1sb2qAHAD9UCv9 -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 9/26/2016 10:30 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 9/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper I use these that I from from Griz about 10 years ago. IIRC Woodcraft sells this stile too. Very HD. As opposed to a "rail"? ;-) LOL. Looks like griz is no longer carrying those. They are very HD. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-W...campaign=zPage |
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On 9/26/2016 11:44 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in : I use these that I from from Griz about 10 years ago. IIRC Woodcraft sells this stile too. Very HD. http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-W...t-Pair-/H2535? utm_campaign=zPage Those look very much like the ones Menards sells. They feel heavy duty, and if installed properly should hold quite a bit. They're the ones I'm leaning towards. Puckdropper To tell you the truth I feared that I would over load the wall itself with this system, so I also mounted a 2x4 vertically at the bottoms of the standards/rails to carry the straight down force along with 5/16" Spax lag screws. I can do pull ups between two of the brackets. |
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On 9/26/2016 3:32 PM, dpb wrote:
On 09/26/2016 2:13 PM, Spalted Walt wrote: ... I use a surplus pallet rack I got for free ... That's a definite "u suk!" find, there...I've been looking for ages and everybody's awful proud of 'em... He does suck! |
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Sonny wrote in
: Hah! I'm wondering if Puck is, also, asking about something he's not admitting to, that he's as guilty, as some of us (hoarders!), that we tend to keep all sorts of "scrap" and it starts to overwhelm our storage/work areas. Some of my various storage systems are.... disorganized. Lots of smaller (length) stuff is best described as just heaped in areas, some horizontal, some vertical. I'm not qualified to recommend a racking system.... *unless, maybe, you want a system that racks. Some of you guys sure have a clean shop. Is that normal? That sheet good rack does look good, though. For my scenario, I'd be tempted to put heavy duty casters on it, to move it out or out of the way, when needed. I have an area in the shop's garage (lots of sheet goods) that could use a wheeled cart. Maybe, center casters lower, than on the ends, to turn on a dime? Sonny No, no, it's just that I like a nice rack... Especially one that's the right size for the available space. It's not the scraps that are causing the problem, it's that I've got layers upon layers of various sheet goods piled against a wall. Reasonably sized boards are piled against another wall. It makes it hard to get to what I need, or even to keep in mind what I have in inventory. Much of my scrap problem went away with the fire pit. I've been thinking about wheels as well. It could then fit tight against the wall and then move out to the aisle when I need a piece. I think locking casters would be a necessity. Puckdropper |
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Puckdropper wrote:
No, no, it's just that I like a nice rack... Especially one that's the right size for the available space. Puckdropper Who doesn't like a nice rack? -- -Mike- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper Wandel's cantilevered shelves are strong and economical. https://woodgears.ca/shelves/index.html https://woodgears.ca/shelves/garage.html http://woodgears.ca/shelves/high.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhnVvcLsp-8 |
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On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 11:49:10 AM UTC-4, Spalted Walt wrote:
Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper Wandel's cantilevered shelves are strong and economical. https://woodgears.ca/shelves/index.html https://woodgears.ca/shelves/garage.html http://woodgears.ca/shelves/high.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhnVvcLsp-8 I did something similar in my garage for storing Soap Box Derby cars. The thing I did differently was to use 45° 2x4 supports from the front of the 3' deep shelves back to the studs. I then screwed short pieces of horizontal 2x4's to the insides of the diagonals (perpendicular to the wall) and added a ~18" deep shelf under each 3' shelf. I had 4 sets of these (2 up, 2 across) on the side wall of my garage. I could put a Derby car on each upper shelf and boxes of wheels, helmets and other Derby supplies on the lower shelves. It made it easy to keep the gear associated with each car right with each car. These days the 3 remaining sets hold all sorts of miscellaneous garage stuff. I have no clue where all that stuff was stored when the garage was full of Derby cars. I certainly don't have any free space now that the cars are gone. ;-) |
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"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message news:57ea8a4b$0$55834$c3e8da3 It's not the scraps that are causing the problem, it's that I've got layers upon layers of various sheet goods piled against a wall. Reasonably sized boards are piled against another wall. It makes it hard to get to what I need, or even to keep in mind what I have in inventory. Much of my scrap problem went away with the fire pit. I've been thinking about wheels as well. It could then fit tight against the wall and then move out to the aisle when I need a piece. I think locking casters would be a necessity. If you have the space, a separate container for sheet goods is worth while. Mine is against one wall, perpendicular to the lumber rack. It has casters so I can rotate it out for access if need be. Both are handy; however, I felt a third need...someplace to put milled pieces before assembly. In the past, they were all over everywhere; now they reside on a wheeled rack which is about 60" tall, 48" wide and 20"+- deep. Works for me |
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Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
I've been thinking about wheels as well. It could then fit tight against the wall and then move out to the aisle when I need a piece. I think locking casters would be a necessity. Puckdropper https://youtu.be/NSUwyMdPAEg?t=952 https://youtu.be/nZtIEFa3Ofk?t=338 |
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On 9/26/2016 4:32 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
I've been looking at wood storage options. I have some wall space I'd like to use. There are some commercial racks available and some shelving options I've been looking at. I'm trying to figure out what'll give me the best bang for the buck, with a good mix of storage capacity and actually finding what I'm looking for. What do you guys use? Do you have any favorites? If I store boards flat on shelves, how close do the supports need to be to prevent bowing? Puckdropper A word about storage shelves for scraps and whole boards. I have 5 rows of shelves, with a 9' ceiling, and through the years have learned to leave the bottom shelf empty to receive new project wood. I have learned to put the scrap pieces on the top shelf and large heavy boards on the lower shelves. This does not sound right but it is much easier to place and remove scrap pieces when you are standing on a ladder than it is to do the same with long heavy boards. Resist the temptation to place or store anything other than wood on your wood rack. |
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On 9/27/16 4:43 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
I started off storing horizontally but eventually went to vertical storage, simply because it gave me better access to the wood and more storage per square foot. I wish I could go vertical (9.5 foot ceilings), but 90% of my boards are 10', 12' and 16'. I made a rack system outside, behind the shop, long enough to hold the 16's. Two tiers, 4' deep with 3"x1/4" "C" channel cross supports on 4' centers. The outside is covered with corrugated roofing takeoffs from reroofing the shop. Being on the south side, it gets quite warm (solar kiln?), but holds an a$$ load of wood (several 1000 bf). The cross supports are bolted to 2"x2" vertical steel supports on each end, sunk into concrete piers. Problems are that the board I want is always on the bottom and the squirrels are impossible. The 4' spacing has never been a problem with warping, etc. The vertical supports mean I only have access from the end so I label each board with species and length. Lots of improvements could be made, but at least it is no longer stacked up on the shop floor 8^). Next would be a shed, probably 12' high, where the 'shorter' stuff could be vertical (the only way to do it right!) -BR |
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On 10/1/2016 8:59 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 9/27/16 4:43 AM, Dr. Deb wrote: I started off storing horizontally but eventually went to vertical storage, simply because it gave me better access to the wood and more storage per square foot. I wish I could go vertical (9.5 foot ceilings), but 90% of my boards are 10', 12' and 16'. How often do you need for a board that to be over 8' or 9' long? You can cut them down to that length now. ;~) I made a rack system outside, behind the shop, long enough to hold the 16's. Two tiers, 4' deep with 3"x1/4" "C" channel cross supports on 4' centers. The outside is covered with corrugated roofing takeoffs from reroofing the shop. Being on the south side, it gets quite warm (solar kiln?), but holds an a$$ load of wood (several 1000 bf). The cross supports are bolted to 2"x2" vertical steel supports on each end, sunk into concrete piers. Problems are that the board I want is always on the bottom and the squirrels are impossible. The 4' spacing has never been a problem with warping, etc. The vertical supports mean I only have access from the end so I label each board with species and length. Lots of improvements could be made, but at least it is no longer stacked up on the shop floor 8^). Next would be a shed, probably 12' high, where the 'shorter' stuff could be vertical (the only way to do it right!) -BR |
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On 10/01/2016 9:31 AM, Leon wrote:
.... How often do you need for a board that to be over 8' or 9' long? You can cut them down to that length now. ;~) .... And grain pattern-matching for a specific project out of them has just gone down the drain... After that, you're limited to what those lengths allow which may or may not, actually make the best presentation/use of the material. |
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On 10/1/2016 10:26 AM, dpb wrote:
On 10/01/2016 9:31 AM, Leon wrote: ... How often do you need for a board that to be over 8' or 9' long? You can cut them down to that length now. ;~) ... And grain pattern-matching for a specific project out of them has just gone down the drain... After that, you're limited to what those lengths allow which may or may not, actually make the best presentation/use of the material. Well there is that. ;~) Unless you cut out the grain patterns now. |
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On 10/01/2016 11:13 AM, Leon wrote:
On 10/1/2016 10:26 AM, dpb wrote: On 10/01/2016 9:31 AM, Leon wrote: ... How often do you need for a board that to be over 8' or 9' long? You can cut them down to that length now. ;~) ... And grain pattern-matching for a specific project out of them has just gone down the drain... After that, you're limited to what those lengths allow which may or may not, actually make the best presentation/use of the material. Well there is that. ;~) Unless you cut out the grain patterns now. And you propose to know where the center of the drawer is going to be in that sideboard commission you've yet to receive exactly how, now??? |
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On 10/1/2016 11:51 AM, dpb wrote:
On 10/01/2016 11:13 AM, Leon wrote: On 10/1/2016 10:26 AM, dpb wrote: On 10/01/2016 9:31 AM, Leon wrote: ... How often do you need for a board that to be over 8' or 9' long? You can cut them down to that length now. ;~) ... And grain pattern-matching for a specific project out of them has just gone down the drain... After that, you're limited to what those lengths allow which may or may not, actually make the best presentation/use of the material. Well there is that. ;~) Unless you cut out the grain patterns now. And you propose to know where the center of the drawer is going to be in that sideboard commission you've yet to receive exactly how, now??? Great points and I used to save pieces for that very fact. But the majority of the work I do depends more on the design vs. particular grain in the wood. I had the dilemma that the OP is talking about. I finally made the decision to not collect the odd pieces for what might or might not happen in the future. FWIW I still have 90% of those special boards because no project has been worthy. LOL Anyway I no longer look for pieces to keep for a possible future project and simply buy as needed these days and if I need a nice piece I cull through my suppliers pile. On a side note, the pantry cabinet I built for our home about 5 years ago has 22 small drawers and are mated in pairs. The grain is matched for the pairs. At eye level a pair of those drawers have grain that looks like the Liberty bell. No one notices that. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/ |
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On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 6:22:54 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On a side note, the pantry cabinet I built for our home about 5 years ago has 22 small drawers and are mated in pairs. The grain is matched for the pairs. At eye level a pair of those drawers have grain that looks like the Liberty bell. No one notices that. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/ Well, you should have strived for the Lone Star look.... Or the Long Horn look. Turn the drawers upside down and you'll see the Long Horn's head. Sonny |
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On 10/1/2016 7:22 PM, Leon wrote:
On a side note, the pantry cabinet I built for our home about 5 years ago has 22 small drawers and are mated in pairs. The grain is matched for the pairs. At eye level a pair of those drawers have grain that looks like the Liberty bell. No one notices that. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/ Took me a couple of seconds to find it, but that is because the crack in the center seems a bit out of scale. |
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On 10/1/2016 9:59 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 9/27/16 4:43 AM, Dr. Deb wrote: I started off storing horizontally but eventually went to vertical storage, simply because it gave me better access to the wood and more storage per square foot. I wish I could go vertical (9.5 foot ceilings), but 90% of my boards are 10', 12' and 16'. I made a rack system outside, behind the shop, long enough to hold the 16's. Two tiers, 4' deep with 3"x1/4" "C" channel cross supports on 4' centers. The outside is covered with corrugated roofing takeoffs from reroofing the shop. Being on the south side, it gets quite warm (solar kiln?), but holds an a$$ load of wood (several 1000 bf). The cross supports are bolted to 2"x2" vertical steel supports on each end, sunk into concrete piers. Problems are that the board I want is always on the bottom and the squirrels are impossible. The 4' spacing has never been a problem with warping, etc. The vertical supports mean I only have access from the end so I label each board with species and length. Lots of improvements could be made, but at least it is no longer stacked up on the shop floor 8^). Next would be a shed, probably 12' high, where the 'shorter' stuff could be vertical (the only way to do it right!) -BR I wish I had 9.5 foot cielings, I would do vertical storage. I would not leave my wood outside, there's too many chances that the bugs will set up a home, or the outside moisture becomes an issue. It's fine for construction grade lumber, but for lumber to be used for furniture, it's asking for trouble. You would have to acclimate it quite a bit longer than an indoor location. I realize many have garage shops, and the same moisture exists both outdoors and in the garage, but I would rather store it in doors. Just my opinion. -- Jeff |
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