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Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door



 
 
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Old June 7th 12, 01:53 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to undertake this myself,
however not clear this would be the best course of action.

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have a spare door to put
in place while the door is off being refinished.

Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the house is also not a
good idea.

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.

While that may be a secure way to install the door - am not receptive to having 6 screw
holes left in the door frame.

My location is west Houston / Katy area.

Very much appreciate any comments / suggestions on how to proceed - including
recommendations of craftsman / companies that are known to do reliable and high quality
door refinishing.

What is the preferred method for installing a kick plate - glued, screwed, or both?

Is the kick plate installed before the finish is applied?

Thanks in advance for comments from the group!

Regards,

Doug


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Old June 7th 12, 02:16 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 6/7/2012 6:53 AM, Doug wrote:
All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to undertake this myself,
however not clear this would be the best course of action.

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have a spare door to put
in place while the door is off being refinished.

Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the house is also not a
good idea.


You do not want to spray or apply spar varnish to the interior side of
the door. Spar varnish remains some what soft and flexible to resist
cracking. Basically the door will always have a bit of a sticky feel.
Use it only on the outside surface. Apply the new coat of varnish with
a brush or small roller.



Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.



While that may be a secure way to install the door - am not receptive to having 6 screw
holes left in the door frame.


So you caulk those holes and repaint.


My location is west Houston / Katy area.


Me 2


Very much appreciate any comments / suggestions on how to proceed - including
recommendations of craftsman / companies that are known to do reliable and high quality
door refinishing.


For what is worth, refinishing your door is probably going to be an
"regular maintenance" procedure every 3~5 years and probably more often
if your door faces west and or east and gets direct sun exposure.


What is the preferred method for installing a kick plate - glued, screwed, or both?


Take our pick, normally screwed.


Is the kick plate installed before the finish is applied?


No.


Thanks in advance for comments from the group!

Regards,

Doug



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Old June 7th 12, 03:40 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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"Doug" wrote in message

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to their
shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.

While that may be a secure way to install the door - am not receptive to
having 6 screw
holes left in the door frame.



Holes are easily filled and finished. I'd not be concerned at all. Easier
than posting a guard at the door at night. If these guys are pros, they
will do a pro job in the end.




What is the preferred method for installing a kick plate - glued, screwed,
or both?

Is the kick plate installed before the finish is applied?


Screws, after the finish is applied.




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Old June 7th 12, 05:16 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 6/7/2012 6:53 AM, Doug wrote:
All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to undertake this myself,
however not clear this would be the best course of action.

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have a spare door to put
in place while the door is off being refinished.

Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the house is also not a
good idea.

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.

While that may be a secure way to install the door - am not receptive to having 6 screw
holes left in the door frame.


Call me dense, but it's not really a temporary "door" if it's screwed to the
jamb, is it? I guess in order to get in and out of the house you have to use
an alternate door for that 7-10 days? Wouldn't it be possible for them to hang
a temporary door off the existing hinges along with your handle and lock
hardware so you could actually *use* the thing, and so that you wouldn't have
to repair any damage to the jamb afterwords? Doesn't seem that difficult to me...

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Old June 7th 12, 05:19 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 06/07/2012 08:16 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 6/7/2012 6:53 AM, Doug wrote:
All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to
undertake this myself,
however not clear this would be the best course of action.

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have
a spare door to put
in place while the door is off being refinished.

Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the
house is also not a
good idea.

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to
their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.

While that may be a secure way to install the door - am not receptive
to having 6 screw
holes left in the door frame.


Call me dense, but it's not really a temporary "door" if it's screwed to
the jamb, is it? I guess in order to get in and out of the house you
have to use an alternate door for that 7-10 days? Wouldn't it be
possible for them to hang a temporary door off the existing hinges along
with your handle and lock hardware so you could actually *use* the
thing, and so that you wouldn't have to repair any damage to the jamb
afterwords? Doesn't seem that difficult to me...


Well, if all the hinge/latch spacing/types were standard...


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Old June 7th 12, 06:24 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 6/7/2012 10:16 AM, Steve Turner wrote:

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to
their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.



Call me dense, but it's not really a temporary "door" if it's screwed to
the jamb, is it? I guess in order to get in and out of the house you
have to use an alternate door for that 7-10 days? Wouldn't it be
possible for them to hang a temporary door off the existing hinges along
with your handle and lock hardware so you could actually *use* the
thing, and so that you wouldn't have to repair any damage to the jamb
afterwords? Doesn't seem that difficult to me...


Call me denser ... 7-10 days to refinish a door??

Not even the entry door to the Vatican would take that long. I think I
would look for another re-finisher.

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Old June 7th 12, 06:36 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 6/7/2012 10:16 AM, Steve Turner wrote:

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to
their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.



Call me dense, but it's not really a temporary "door" if it's screwed to
the jamb, is it? I guess in order to get in and out of the house you
have to use an alternate door for that 7-10 days? Wouldn't it be
possible for them to hang a temporary door off the existing hinges along
with your handle and lock hardware so you could actually *use* the
thing, and so that you wouldn't have to repair any damage to the jamb
afterwords? Doesn't seem that difficult to me...


don't you have to mortise the hinges into the jamb for the door to
actually work? it's just not a matter of filling a few screw holes in
that case.

it's a temp door. why not leave the hinges in the jamb and mortise the
temp door to accept the existing hinges. that way, the jamb doesn't have
to change. the shop may have to occasionally by a temp door when the one
they're using gets torn up too much from different houses.

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Old June 7th 12, 06:52 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 6/7/2012 10:19 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 06/07/2012 08:16 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 6/7/2012 6:53 AM, Doug wrote:
All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to
undertake this myself,
however not clear this would be the best course of action.

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have
a spare door to put
in place while the door is off being refinished.

Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the
house is also not a
good idea.

Found a local shop that does this work - they remove your door to
their shop for 7-10
days, and install a temporary door by screwing it to the door jam.

While that may be a secure way to install the door - am not receptive
to having 6 screw
holes left in the door frame.


Call me dense, but it's not really a temporary "door" if it's screwed to
the jamb, is it? I guess in order to get in and out of the house you
have to use an alternate door for that 7-10 days? Wouldn't it be
possible for them to hang a temporary door off the existing hinges along
with your handle and lock hardware so you could actually *use* the
thing, and so that you wouldn't have to repair any damage to the jamb
afterwords? Doesn't seem that difficult to me...


Well, if all the hinge/latch spacing/types were standard...


And more likely the weather strip at the bottom of the door and
perimeter of the door will not mate properly.

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Old June 7th 12, 07:28 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

On 6/7/2012 6:53 AM, Doug wrote:
All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to undertake this myself,
however not clear this would be the best course of action.

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have a spare door to put
in place while the door is off being refinished.

Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the house is also not a
good idea.



It's a door not a work of art. Put a drop cloth on the floor. You can
strip sand and varnish the thing in place.

Spray??? A paint brush will work just as well.

It's said necessity is the mother of invention. Are you finding it
necessary to invent an excuse to get out of doing the job?

LdB
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Old June 7th 12, 07:40 PM posted to rec.woodworking
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Default Need to refinish a mahogany front entry door

Doug wrote:
All,

Need to refinish my mahogany front entry door - would like to
undertake this myself, however not clear this would be the best
course of action.


Why not?
___________

Understand that finishing in place is not practical and I do not have
a spare door to put in place while the door is off being refinished.
Spraying a large surface with multiple coasts of spar varnish in the
house is also not a good idea.


There is no reason that it can't be finished in place and there is no reason
to spray it. It isn't all that hard to get a good brushed on varnish
finish. You DO need a *good* brush.

You also don't want spar varnish. For some obtuse reason, people seem to
think that spar varnish is the ne plus ultra of varnishes. Not so. As I
and others have explained many times it is a specialized varnish for a
specialized purpose; namely, varnishing spars. It is good for that because
it is softer and more flexible and spars bend.
_______________

Very much appreciate any comments / suggestions on how to proceed -
including recommendations of craftsman / companies that are known to
do reliable and high quality door refinishing.


I would do it myself. I would go buy a decent marine varnish with an UV
inhibitor, a good brush and have at it. You probably wouldn't need more
than a quart.

Step one is sanding down the old finish; if it is varnish, no need to
totally remove it, just get down to a good layer. Step two is
varnishing...you flow it on and want the varnish thin enough to flow easily
but not so thin (or applied so thickly) that it runs. You'll need to apply
several (4-6) coats and don't do it in the sun.

I would not use a poly varnish; it is hard and durable but MUCH harder to
refinish. I'd use an alkyd/phenolic varnish. I always liked Z-Spar (the
"spar" in the brand name doesn't mean it is spar vanish). Here's one
source...
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...keyword=z_spar

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What is the preferred method for installing a kick plate - glued,
screwed, or both?


I'd screw it. With small, round head brass screws (assuming the plate is
brass).
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Is the kick plate installed before the finish is applied?


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