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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
I wish someone would make an adapter that would allow powertools to use
other manufacturer's batteries, like using my Ridgid batteries for DeWalt and vice-versa. |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:45:49 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
I wish someone would make an adapter that would allow powertools to use other manufacturer's batteries, like using my Ridgid batteries for DeWalt and vice-versa. There's probably too many infringement problems for that to happen. |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:45:49 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
wrote: I wish someone would make an adapter that would allow powertools to use other manufacturer's batteries, like using my Ridgid batteries for DeWalt and vice-versa. The only motive for that is to make a profit. I don't see much of a profit in providing such an adapter considering the potential number of combinations. If your batteries die, get a good rebuild and have better than new in most cases. |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:55:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
If your batteries die, get a good rebuild and have better than new in most cases. What I'd like to see is someone rebuilding the older batteries with the newer and lighter Li-ion technology. |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
Can't be done.
The lithium generally use different prongs, so the charger knows what it is charging. Lithium can not be charged the same as nicad or nimh. Also the cell voltage is different. You'll never see an old nicad/nimh holding lithium. You will see a reload of the lithium with lithium. On 2/26/2012 12:22 PM, Dave wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:55:30 -0500, Ed wrote: If your batteries die, get a good rebuild and have better than new in most cases. What I'd like to see is someone rebuilding the older batteries with the newer and lighter Li-ion technology. |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:45:49 -0500, "Buck Turgidson"
wrote: I wish someone would make an adapter that would allow powertools to use other manufacturer's batteries, like using my Ridgid batteries for DeWalt and vice-versa. Better yet, get all mfgrs to standardize the battery pack interface. -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On 2/26/2012 1:10 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:45:49 -0500, "Buck wrote: I wish someone would make an adapter that would allow powertools to use other manufacturer's batteries, like using my Ridgid batteries for DeWalt and vice-versa. Better yet, get all mfgrs to standardize the battery pack interface. They already do... on the inside anyway. The manufacturers of power tools are unlikely to manufacture batteries as well. Those are bought from the battery makers. The battery case is just a hollow container there to allow the batteries to be removable. That's a much better setup than batteries wired-in. I've had my Ryobi 9 and 12 volt drill batteries rebuilt - using Nimh cells. I _think_ they were originally NiCad. Nice increase in run-time as a result. |
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On 2/26/2012 1:07 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Can't be done. The lithium generally use different prongs, so the charger knows what it is charging. Lithium can not be charged the same as nicad or nimh. Also the cell voltage is different. Yeah, that is incorrect. AAMOF you can plug any Festool battery that will fit into a current Festool Charger regaudless of chemical makeup or voltage. http://www.festoolusa.com/products/c...-3-495227.html You'll never see an old nicad/nimh holding lithium. This link leads to batteries with same cases and diferent chemical make up batteries that will all fit the same tool and charger. http://www.festoolusa.com/accessorie...-chargers.html |
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Richard wrote: On 2/26/2012 1:10 PM, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:45:49 -0500, "Buck wrote: I wish someone would make an adapter that would allow powertools to use other manufacturer's batteries, like using my Ridgid batteries for DeWalt and vice-versa. Better yet, get all mfgrs to standardize the battery pack interface. They already do... on the inside anyway. The manufacturers of power tools are unlikely to manufacture batteries as well. Those are bought from the battery makers. The battery case is just a hollow container there to allow the batteries to be removable. That's a much better setup than batteries The smart chargers most manufacturers use today depend on heat sensors built into their battery packs to determine optimum charging times. That's one of the reasons the cheap tools, like HF, all have low-amp chargers that must be manually disconnected after a time, or risk frying either the battery or charger. If you wanted to use a plain charger with no logic control, and take responsibility for correct charging cycle time and polarity yourself, you could always get a power wart of adequate voltage and current capacity and attach a set of alligator clips. Doubtful you would get the same battery life as the dedicated charger provides though. -- Often wrong, never in doubt. Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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That may be true of festool. I doubt they use a stupid charge technology.
I have computerized chargers for my lithium and lipo batteries, the lithium ion and lithium poly invalidated my old computerized chargers used for nicad, and nimh. What festool probably has is a computer chip that senses voltage and is working off that for charge, for nicad and nimh it is probably either shutting off based on a curve, when the battery starts taking less amperage. For lithium ion and poly it probably uses a different set of criteria. Not like your Rigid, Dewalt, Bosch, Makita, Milwakee, or Royobi... Which probably don't have the sophistication built into the charger. BTW the more advanced lithium batteries prevent you from deep discharge. The lesser batteries don't. Temperature is not a great way to stop charging. It's the cheapest, and most destructive. On 2/26/2012 5:33 PM, Leon wrote: On 2/26/2012 1:07 PM, tiredofspam wrote: Can't be done. The lithium generally use different prongs, so the charger knows what it is charging. Lithium can not be charged the same as nicad or nimh. Also the cell voltage is different. Yeah, that is incorrect. AAMOF you can plug any Festool battery that will fit into a current Festool Charger regaudless of chemical makeup or voltage. http://www.festoolusa.com/products/c...-3-495227.html You'll never see an old nicad/nimh holding lithium. This link leads to batteries with same cases and diferent chemical make up batteries that will all fit the same tool and charger. http://www.festoolusa.com/accessorie...-chargers.html |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On 2/26/2012 9:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
program. Trade in your old style charger and buy a new one with two battery packs and you get a coupon for a free Chevy Volt. Battery not included ... -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:12:47 -0600, Swingman wrote:
On 2/26/2012 9:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: program. Trade in your old style charger and buy a new one with two battery packs and you get a coupon for a free Chevy Volt. Battery not included ... I _knew_ it was too bad to be true... -- Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air. -- John Quincy Adams |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
"Swingman" wrote ... On 2/26/2012 9:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: program. Trade in your old style charger and buy a new one with two battery packs and you get a coupon for a free Chevy Volt. Battery not included ... That was Johnnie Carson's old line. Brings back memories... |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article , Ed Pawlowski wrote: If your batteries die, get a good rebuild and have better than new in most cases. I looked into doing that for my DeWalt a few months ago -- the rebuilds were as expensive as new. Even the rebuild *kits* were was expensive as new. Unless I was looking in the wrong place, I couldn't justify rebuilding, which is a shame. you definitely looked in the wrong places Ed. Generally around $35 for a good rebuild. -- -Mike- |
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Ridgid - DeWalt Battery Adapter
On 2/27/2012 3:27 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
In , Mike wrote: Edward A. Falk wrote: In , Ed wrote: Unless I was looking in the wrong place, I couldn't justify rebuilding, which is a shame. you definitely looked in the wrong places Ed. Generally around $35 for a good rebuild. Yep, that's pretty much what I found. And here's a replacement for $31, including shipping: http://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-1500AH-.../dp/B0023S8F9U Any chance the rebuild is significantly better than the replacement? Rebuilds tend to be "fresh" they have not been setting on the shelf waiting for your to buy them and they typically have significantly higher amperage ratings. |
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On 2/27/2012 4:17 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/27/2012 3:27 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote: In , Mike wrote: Edward A. Falk wrote: In , Ed wrote: Unless I was looking in the wrong place, I couldn't justify rebuilding, which is a shame. you definitely looked in the wrong places Ed. Generally around $35 for a good rebuild. Yep, that's pretty much what I found. And here's a replacement for $31, including shipping: http://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-1500AH-.../dp/B0023S8F9U Any chance the rebuild is significantly better than the replacement? Rebuilds tend to be "fresh" they have not been setting on the shelf waiting for your to buy them and they typically have significantly higher amperage ratings. Actually I would shy from a pre-rebuilt, they have been setting on the shelf also. Have you own battery rebuilt. |
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Leon wrote:
On 2/27/2012 3:27 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote: In , Mike wrote: Edward A. Falk wrote: In , Ed wrote: Unless I was looking in the wrong place, I couldn't justify rebuilding, which is a shame. you definitely looked in the wrong places Ed. Generally around $35 for a good rebuild. Yep, that's pretty much what I found. And here's a replacement for $31, including shipping: http://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-1500AH-.../dp/B0023S8F9U Any chance the rebuild is significantly better than the replacement? Rebuilds tend to be "fresh" they have not been setting on the shelf waiting for your to buy them and they typically have significantly higher amperage ratings. My experience has not been "typical". I used Batteries Plus to rebuild a couple of DeWalt batteries and another machine with built-in batteries. They did not last nearly as long as the new batteries did and did not hold a charge as long. -- Gerald Ross If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong equipment. |
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:49:35 -0500, Gerald Ross
My experience has not been "typical". I used Batteries Plus to rebuild a couple of DeWalt batteries and another machine with built-in batteries. They did not last nearly as long as the new batteries did and did not hold a charge as long. Unfortunately, I had a similar experience when I had my Milwaukee drill batteries rebuilt. But, this was at least ten years ago, so the rebuilding technology and type of batteries being rebuild these days might have improved. |
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On 2/27/2012 3:27 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
In , Mike wrote: Edward A. Falk wrote: In , Ed wrote: Unless I was looking in the wrong place, I couldn't justify rebuilding, which is a shame. you definitely looked in the wrong places Ed. Generally around $35 for a good rebuild. Yep, that's pretty much what I found. And here's a replacement for $31, including shipping: http://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-1500AH-.../dp/B0023S8F9U Any chance the rebuild is significantly better than the replacement? +1. At the green battery shop. Whazit'sname? |
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Yep, that's pretty much what I found. And here's a replacement for $31, including shipping: http://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-1500AH-.../dp/B0023S8F9U Any chance the rebuild is significantly better than the replacement? Seems like the ones from www.primecell.com are. NIMH -Maximum capacity packs: NiMh batteries are usually available in two battery sizes. Small packs were 1.5 AH and large battery packs were 2.2 AH to 2.6 AH We rebuild the small case with 2.1 AH and the larger packs are improved to 3.3 AH. Either rebuild usually adds 50% more run time. |
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