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Sorry about the off topic post, but we here at Carter Products are happy
to announce we just turned 75! and we wanted you to share in the
celebration.

From the first band saw wheel with replaceable tires in 1929 to our
latest innovations for both the hobbyist and industrial woodworker in
2004, Carter Products has brought new ideas to life for 75 years.

As a thank you for 75 years of support Carter is pleased to offer
rec.woodworking usenet participants a special offer. For
details on this offer visit the following address:
http://www.carterproducts.com/75th

For industrial users we are also now having a sale on all
our lasers. For more information on our laser sale or any of our
products please contact Carter Products at or
call our toll free number 888-622-7837. Sale details and product info
can be found at
http://www.carterproducts.com/halfoff.asp

All our products can be viewed online and many classic products
purchased online at our newly updated web site.
http://www.carterproducts.com

Thanks to all the woodworkers who have relied on Carter to provide high
quality upgrades and innovative new products for large and small shops
around the world. We look forward to serving you for at least another 75
years.



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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:05:50 -0400, Carter wrote:
Sorry about the off topic post, but we here at Carter Products are happy
to announce we just turned 75! and we wanted you to share in the
celebration.


Hm. You know, it's one thing when a regular participant and
contributor here also sells stuff, it's an entirely different thing
when someone who doesn't, comes in with an ad. Maybe I've missed
it, but it looks to me like you're just using a forum you don't
contribute to for free advertising, is that the case here?


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Notice the"half-off" URL redirects to a 15% off page? Gotta love 'em. Wait, I
don't. Tom
Work at your leisure!
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"Carter" wrote in message
rvers.com...


Sorry about the off topic post, but we here at Carter Products are happy
to announce we just turned 75! and we wanted you to share in the
celebration.


Batten down the hatches, don the asbestos.

Me? I'm fine with your post. Maye "OT" should have been "FS", but close
enough.
And I don't mind a URL that directs me to a Sale page.


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Dave,

I agree that a vendor that doesn't contribute but wants our business is a
bit on the sly side but... Let's invite him to join in and provide some
guidance / advice on his products. We get some tips/hints and he gets a
world-wide audience. His ad was well done I might ad.

Bob S.


"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:05:50 -0400, Carter

wrote:
Sorry about the off topic post, but we here at Carter Products are happy
to announce we just turned 75! and we wanted you to share in the
celebration.


Hm. You know, it's one thing when a regular participant and
contributor here also sells stuff, it's an entirely different thing
when someone who doesn't, comes in with an ad. Maybe I've missed
it, but it looks to me like you're just using a forum you don't
contribute to for free advertising, is that the case here?






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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:01:15 GMT, Bob wrote:
Dave,

I agree that a vendor that doesn't contribute but wants our business is a
bit on the sly side but... Let's invite him to join in and provide some
guidance / advice on his products. We get some tips/hints and he gets a
world-wide audience. His ad was well done I might ad.


Perhaps, but he's going about it backwards if he wants me to consider
buying anything from him. In one of the VW auto groups, there's
a guy there (John) who is _very_ helpful and an active participant.
Picture Charlie Self, but with VW Beetle stuff. Months into
reading the group, I realized that he was also the person selling
restoration products, repair parts, and all that, that people were
refering to by vendor name (rather than his name, y'see, so it wasn't
obvious).

To contrast, if it's someone who hasn't participated (and/or
contributed) in a group and they wander in with their commercial,
I see it as about the same as someone crashing a party, breaking
into conversations, and trying to sell everyone at the party something.

It was one of the milder spam's that I've seen, but it's still a
pork product in a can with that disgusting jelly stuff on it.

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Hopefully (but I doubt it) the gentleman will read your posts and take it to
heart.

Bob S.


"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:01:15 GMT, Bob wrote:
Dave,

I agree that a vendor that doesn't contribute but wants our business is

a
bit on the sly side but... Let's invite him to join in and provide some
guidance / advice on his products. We get some tips/hints and he gets a
world-wide audience. His ad was well done I might ad.


Perhaps, but he's going about it backwards if he wants me to consider
buying anything from him. In one of the VW auto groups, there's
a guy there (John) who is _very_ helpful and an active participant.
Picture Charlie Self, but with VW Beetle stuff. Months into
reading the group, I realized that he was also the person selling
restoration products, repair parts, and all that, that people were
refering to by vendor name (rather than his name, y'see, so it wasn't
obvious).

To contrast, if it's someone who hasn't participated (and/or
contributed) in a group and they wander in with their commercial,
I see it as about the same as someone crashing a party, breaking
into conversations, and trying to sell everyone at the party something.

It was one of the milder spam's that I've seen, but it's still a
pork product in a can with that disgusting jelly stuff on it.



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Dave Hinz wrote:
In one of the VW auto groups, there's a guy there (John)
who is _very_ helpful and an active participant.
Picture Charlie Self, but with VW Beetle stuff. Months into
reading the group, I realized that he was also the person selling
restoration products, repair parts, and all that, that people were
refering to by vendor name (rather than his name, y'see, so it wasn't
obvious).


Much like our own St. Robin of Lee? Or once upon a time
Bennet of TS Aligner fame. Though with the former I've nary
seen a commercial endorsement and the man demonstrates
probably the best bidness model I've ever seen whereas the
latter usually only spoke to alignment issues (his strong
suit) but is remembered for the long (OK, painful to those
who watched) flame wars with the likes of Puzzle Boy.

To contrast, if it's someone who hasn't participated (and/or
contributed) in a group and they wander in with their commercial,
I see it as about the same as someone crashing a party, breaking
into conversations, and trying to sell everyone at the party something.


You know though, I've seen many a "rep" type unbatten the
hatches and stick out their heads on forums like this but
few (OK, nearly none) get it right. The truth be known I
for one wouldn't mind having the place swarming with them as
long as they'd maybe minor in the Rob Lee School Of How To
Do It Right.

Hey! A guy can dream the improbable, can't he?

It was one of the milder spam's that I've seen, but it's still a
pork product in a can with that disgusting jelly stuff on it.


And what's up with that iridescent color (colour David) on
that stuff anyway?

UA100
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Well it worked, I just looked at their website!

John

Dave Hinz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:05:50 -0400, Carter wrote:

Sorry about the off topic post, but we here at Carter Products are happy
to announce we just turned 75! and we wanted you to share in the
celebration.



Hm. You know, it's one thing when a regular participant and
contributor here also sells stuff, it's an entirely different thing
when someone who doesn't, comes in with an ad. Maybe I've missed
it, but it looks to me like you're just using a forum you don't
contribute to for free advertising, is that the case here?



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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:32:14 -0400, Eddie Munster wrote:
Well it worked, I just looked at their website!


Wonderful. I have a cousin who sells cars, but I'm not posting ads
for his dealership here. Spammers keep doing it because people
keep buying from them...something to think about next time you're
sweeping out your inbox.



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Please excuse the extremely long post but I felt a response was
necessary.

I do take things like this to heart and am happy to contribute where I
can. However I have the unenviable position of being caught between two
ideals. The first being that I’m the newly appointed Director of Media
Services for the Carter Products Company, and thus its my job to get the
word out anyway I can about our products. The other being that I’m sure
you would rather get product advice from someone who has used a product,
not someone who also sells it. I’ve been lurking around rec.woodworking
for a while now, and even posted a few times with questions I’ve had.
I’ve been very tempted on more then a few occasions to post my opinions
when questions about bandsaw guides, tires, tension springs, etc. come
up. However in fear of being flamed because of my connection to Carter
Products I have not posted. I know for myself I would much rather get
advice from someone who has used a product but is in no way connected to
the company that sells the product. I’d be more then happy to extol what
in my opinion are the virtues of the full roller bearing guide, the need
to de-tension after every bandsaw use thus our Quick Release, but I’d
much prefer someone who owns our product or another product pass this
info on whether it be for our against our products. If you can think of
a way for me to talk about our products or give advice without getting
flamed for my bias towards them that would be great, but I cannot. So as
you see either way I’m doomed. Flamed if I do post, Flamed, as in this
case, if I don’t.

Likewise I really don’t consider myself to be an expert on woodworking.
I’m an amateur woodworker at best, who has been learning ever since my
grandfather first taught me how to use his bandsaw at the age of 12.
I’ve attended classes on woodworking, most recently at the Marc Adams
School of Woodworking, and while I enjoy what I can do in woodworking, I
don’t consider myself an expert at it. I’m not an engineer here, nor do
I develop any of the products, my job is to understand the basics of
them and create marketing and instructional materials for them. I’ve
really spent the last years of my life learning and perfecting my
current occupation (video, web design, marketing and multimedia) thus
woodworking is more of a weekend hobby then anything else to me. As such
I don’t feel really qualified to give that much info on a subject I am
still learning about. If questions arise about our products specifically
relating to some aspect like adjusting, mounting, etc. then I’d be all
over it, but typically questions are asking how people like the product
(mostly guides) or if they recommend it, and that’s not really fair for
me to comment because of my affiliation with the company that sells the
product. Since I only woodwork as a hobby I really am not that
knowledgeable about tons of equipment other than what I use, which as
you might expect is equipped with everything that Carter sells. I admit
I don’t monitor rec.woodworking daily so I’m sure there have been some
questions that I could add my two cents to that I’ve missed, but I can’t
devote all my time to the internet as my job requires I spend time
elsewhere and being a new father my family requires what little time I
have left over.

The purpose of the original message, which I might add was only posted
to rec.woodworking, was to pass on the news of Carters 75th anniversary
and give the rec.woodworking users the opportunity to gain a discount,
not typically extended to the end user (customer), on our products if
they were interested. Sure it’s secondary purpose was also as an ad,
sure I wanted it to generate further interest, exposure and hopefully
sales of our products, but no harm was intended with the posting.
Perhaps it should have read FS instead of OT but I did my best to label
it as off topic, thus in hopes to avoid the flames that followed. As
such I wish to convey my apologies for it’s intrusion into
rec.woodworking. As time permits I will try to participate where
appropriate. If anyone has specific questions regarding our products
please direct them to our address and we will
be happy to answer them or to myself at

Likewise post them here and other possibly more experienced and unbiased
users might be able to answer them, if not I’ll do my best to answer
them in a timely manner. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this response but
I felt it was necessary to do so. Again I’m sorry for any disruption my
posting may have made.

Lee
Director of Media Services
Carter Products Company


Bob wrote:

Hopefully (but I doubt it) the gentleman will read your posts and take it to
heart.

Bob S.


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Carter wrote:

Please excuse the extremely long post but I felt a response was
necessary.

I do take things like this to heart and am happy to contribute where I
can. However I have the unenviable position of being caught between two
ideals. The first being that I’m the newly appointed Director of Media
Services for the Carter Products Company, and thus its my job to get the
word out anyway I can about our products. The other being that I’m sure
you would rather get product advice from someone who has used a product,
not someone who also sells it. [snip of explanatory material]


Lee,
I personally have no problem with your original post, in fact I thought
it rather well done. wRECkers can be a cantankerous bunch of old farts
and fartettes, but with a few exceptions, we are fair and will slather
friend and foe alike with kudos and derision. Stick around. If you see
a question that one of your products can solve, have at it. If it's
great, you will hear about it. If it sucks, well ...

That said, if you need beta testing of your products, I just happen to
have this Delta 14"... ;-)

mahalo,
jo4hn

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"Carter" wrote in message

The first being that I’m the newly appointed Director of Media
Services for the Carter Products Company, and thus its my job to get the
word out anyway I can about our products.


This is the point of contention. USENET is a discussion area for subjects
of the particujlar newsgroup. It is not meant to be commercial. A simple
announcement may be alllowed, but you can split har between a simple
annoucement and a full blown advertisement at times. Personally, I did not
see any problem with shat you did as a one time thing as at least you were
offering a discount.


I’ve been lurking around rec.woodworking
for a while now, and even posted a few times with questions I’ve had.
I’ve been very tempted on more then a few occasions to post my opinions
when questions about bandsaw guides, tires, tension springs, etc. come
up. However in fear of being flamed because of my connection to Carter
Products I have not posted.


As long as you are giving honest advice, not just try to sell products I
don't see that this is a problem. If you sig line shows your affiliation
with Carter, we can make out own judgement. We all know of Setve Knight and
Mike at American Sycamore and others and when they say this or that works
best for them, we know they are giving honest opinion, not trying to sell
their product. They have experience with many products and share their
thoughts freely. No reason you should not. Not much different that when a
machinist, blacksmith, electrician pop in to answer questions in their area
of expertise.


I know for myself I would much rather get
advice from someone who has used a product but is in no way connected to
the company that sells the product. I’d be more then happy to extol what
in my opinion are the virtues of the full roller bearing guide, the need
to de-tension after every bandsaw use thus our Quick Release, but I’d
much prefer someone who owns our product or another product pass this
info on whether it be for our against our products.


I'd be interested in not just your opinion, but any real facts on the
subject. I de-tension every day and believe it to be beneficail. Others say
it makes no difference. I'm sure your quick release works wele, but I use a
cheaper product. Best way to handle that is to answer a question about it
rather than post a 20 page white paper on the subject that reeks of
advertising. .


If you can think of
a way for me to talk about our products or give advice without getting
flamed for my bias towards them that would be great, but I cannot.


Thee is a difference bwtween aswering a question and stating if it comes
from your perspective as a Carter employee and just rambling on about
somethiing with the main intention of telling us about Carter product.
Robin Lee does that often. He is held in high regard, we know his company,
we know his products, but he answers questions of general interest when he
can. He also answer questions directed to Lee Valley products when
appropriate. He NEVER steps in and says don't buy brand X, but my stuff
instead. Google up his posts for some guidance.
Ed





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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Robin Lee does that often. He is held in high regard, we know his company,
we know his products, but he answers questions of general interest when he
can. He also answer questions directed to Lee Valley products when
appropriate. He NEVER steps in and says don't buy brand X, but my stuff
instead. Google up his posts for some guidance.


Good idea. Jim Ray of McFeely's also lurks and contributes when
he can - you might read a few of his, as well, if you aren't
comfortable.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

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Carter wrote in message servers.com...
Please excuse the extremely long post but I felt a response was
necessary.

I do take things like this to heart and am happy to contribute where I
can. However I have the unenviable position of being caught between two
ideals. The first being that I’m the newly appointed Director of Media
Services for the Carter Products Company, and thus its my job to get the
word out anyway I can about our products. The other being that I’m sure
you would rather get product advice from someone who has used a product,
not someone who also sells it. I’ve been lurking around rec.woodworking
for a while now, and even posted a few times with questions I’ve had.
I’ve been very tempted on more then a few occasions to post my opinions
when questions about bandsaw guides, tires, tension springs, etc. come
up. However in fear of being flamed because of my connection to Carter
Products I have not posted. I know for myself I would much rather get
advice from someone who has used a product but is in no way connected to
the company that sells the product. I’d be more then happy to extol what
in my opinion are the virtues of the full roller bearing guide, the need
to de-tension after every bandsaw use thus our Quick Release, but I’d
much prefer someone who owns our product or another product pass this
info on whether it be for our against our products. If you can think of
a way for me to talk about our products or give advice without getting
flamed for my bias towards them that would be great, but I cannot. So as
you see either way I’m doomed. Flamed if I do post, Flamed, as in this
case, if I don’t.

Likewise I really don’t consider myself to be an expert on woodworking.
I’m an amateur woodworker at best, who has been learning ever since my
grandfather first taught me how to use his bandsaw at the age of 12.
I’ve attended classes on woodworking, most recently at the Marc Adams
School of Woodworking, and while I enjoy what I can do in woodworking, I
don’t consider myself an expert at it. I’m not an engineer here, nor do
I develop any of the products, my job is to understand the basics of
them and create marketing and instructional materials for them. I’ve
really spent the last years of my life learning and perfecting my
current occupation (video, web design, marketing and multimedia) thus
woodworking is more of a weekend hobby then anything else to me. As such
I don’t feel really qualified to give that much info on a subject I am
still learning about. If questions arise about our products specifically
relating to some aspect like adjusting, mounting, etc. then I’d be all
over it, but typically questions are asking how people like the product
(mostly guides) or if they recommend it, and that’s not really fair for
me to comment because of my affiliation with the company that sells the
product. Since I only woodwork as a hobby I really am not that
knowledgeable about tons of equipment other than what I use, which as
you might expect is equipped with everything that Carter sells. I admit
I don’t monitor rec.woodworking daily so I’m sure there have been some
questions that I could add my two cents to that I’ve missed, but I can’t
devote all my time to the internet as my job requires I spend time
elsewhere and being a new father my family requires what little time I
have left over.

The purpose of the original message, which I might add was only posted
to rec.woodworking, was to pass on the news of Carters 75th anniversary
and give the rec.woodworking users the opportunity to gain a discount,
not typically extended to the end user (customer), on our products if
they were interested. Sure it’s secondary purpose was also as an ad,
sure I wanted it to generate further interest, exposure and hopefully
sales of our products, but no harm was intended with the posting.
Perhaps it should have read FS instead of OT but I did my best to label
it as off topic, thus in hopes to avoid the flames that followed. As
such I wish to convey my apologies for it’s intrusion into
rec.woodworking. As time permits I will try to participate where
appropriate. If anyone has specific questions regarding our products
please direct them to our address and we will
be happy to answer them or to myself at

Likewise post them here and other possibly more experienced and unbiased
users might be able to answer them, if not I’ll do my best to answer
them in a timely manner. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this response but
I felt it was necessary to do so. Again I’m sorry for any disruption my
posting may have made.

Lee
Director of Media Services
Carter Products Company


Bob wrote:

Hopefully (but I doubt it) the gentleman will read your posts and take it to
heart.

Bob S.


Dear Lee:

I welcome your post and most woodworkers will welcome your post. No
need to apologize...no fowl here. I enjoyed your site and appreciated
the information.
I have done business with Carter since my days with The Edward B.
Mueller Co out of Cinncinati, OH. I invite you to take a look at my
website as well.

www.americansycamoreretreat.com

thanks,
Mike from American Sycamore


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Dave Hinz wrote:
something to think about next time you're
sweeping out your inbox.


Or getting blade guides for my bandsaw!

John

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jo4hn wrote:
....
I personally have no problem with your original post, in fact I thought
it rather well done. wRECkers can be a cantankerous bunch of old farts
and fartettes, but with a few exceptions, we are fair and will slather
friend and foe alike with kudos and derision. Stick around. If you see
a question that one of your products can solve, have at it. If it's
great, you will hear about it. If it sucks, well ...

....

Yeah, I agree exactly. Plenty of others have advertised their
services here. I don't see any problem with it as long as its related
to woodworking and it isn't repetitive.

Besides, this OT post is no worse than a dozen other OT threads that
are going on here (arguably better than most of them).
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Tue, Jun 15, 2004, 2:33pm (Carter) posts:
snip I've been very tempted on more then a few occasions to post my
opinions when questions about bandsaw guides, tires, tension springs,
etc. come up. snip If you can think of a way for me to talk about our
products or give advice without getting flamed for my bias towards them
that would be great, but I cannot. snip

The way Robin does it, works for me. Check out his style.

So as you see either way I'm doomed. Flamed if I do post, Flamed, as in
this case, if I don't. snip

Nah, you don't need to worry about getting flamed for that.
Somebody'll just pick something else to flame you about. LOL

snip As such I don't feel really qualified to give that much info on a
subject I am still learning about. snip

That doesn't stop certain people.

If questions arise about our products specifically relating to some
aspect like adjusting, mounting, etc. then I'd be all over it, but
typically questions are asking how people like the product (mostly
guides) or if they recommend it, and that's not really fair for me to
comment because of my affiliation with the company that sells the
product. Since I only woodwork as a hobby I really am not that
knowledgeable about tons of equipment other than what I use, which as
you might expect is equipped with everything that Carter sells. snip

I personally see no problem with you posting, should be a good
thing, just don't "push" the stuff. Wouldn't need to be here every day.
I'd say check out Robin's style, try to do half as well. A link, and a
line or three in a sig block. I'd have no prob with that.

JOAT
Use your brain - it's the small things that count.
- Bazooka Joe

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Tue, Jun 15, 2004, 6:56pm (EDT-3)
(Mike=A0at=A0American=A0Sycamore) says:
snip I invite you to take a look at my website as well.
www.americansycamoreretreat.com

Aaaarrrrgggghhh. Didn't intentionally leave you out of my response
Mike. But, it's late and all I could think of was Robin's name. I know
you and a number of others contribute to the group too. I don't know of
anyone who has a problem with any of you. Hmm, that didn't come out
exactly like I meant it. Anyway, everybody knows you guys are
associated with businesses, and I don't know of anybody that has a
problem with it. Still lame, but better. I think I need a cup of
coffee.

JOAT
Use your brain - it's the small things that count.
- Bazooka Joe

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(J T) wrote in message ...
Tue, Jun 15, 2004, 6:56pm (EDT-3)

(Mike at American Sycamore) says:
snip I invite you to take a look at my website as well.
www.americansycamoreretreat.com

Aaaarrrrgggghhh. Didn't intentionally leave you out of my response
Mike. But, it's late and all I could think of was Robin's name. I know
you and a number of others contribute to the group too. I don't know of
anyone who has a problem with any of you. Hmm, that didn't come out
exactly like I meant it. Anyway, everybody knows you guys are
associated with businesses, and I don't know of anybody that has a
problem with it. Still lame, but better. I think I need a cup of
coffee.

JOAT
Use your brain - it's the small things that count.
- Bazooka Joe




Hey there Joat:

Thank-you for the kind words. I do try to be of help and use my years
of selling and teaching woodworking, and yes I do need to promote my
business when I can and when approviate to do so. There are so many
nice people here that do offer words of encouragement and they do try
to help everyone. Thanks,
Mike


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Lee,

Please do stick around and continue to contribute whenever you feel it
appropriate. We all benefit from having reps of manufacturers and
retailers participate, and from a manufacturer's perspective it's hard
to imagine a better source of information from its consumers.

I personally don't even feel that it's inappropriate for you to offer
opinions and/or facts which you feel make your company's products
superior. As long as you identify your connection to the company so
that everyone understands where/who it is coming from, I see no
problem...

Not everyone will agree (that NEVER happens here), but that is just a
part of Usenet. I'm interested in Carter Products products (!) and
would welcome your input and participation.

Brad


Carter wrote in message servers.com...
Please excuse the extremely long post but I felt a response was
necessary.
(large snip)
Lee

Director of Media Services
Carter Products Company


Bob wrote:

Hopefully (but I doubt it) the gentleman will read your posts and take it to
heart.

Bob S.

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On 17 Jun 2004 08:22:51 -0700, brad wrote:

Not everyone will agree (that NEVER happens here), but that is just a
part of Usenet. I'm interested in Carter Products products (!) and
would welcome your input and participation.


Yup, participation is the way to go.
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" said in response to my post which encouraged the
OP to keep posting:

wrote in message . ..
Your thrust brings to mind the Packard Motorcar slogan "Ask the man
that owns one".

On 17 Jun 2004 08:22:51 -0700, (brad) wrote:

Please do stick around and continue to contribute whenever you feel it
appropriate. We all benefit from having reps of manufacturers and
retailers participate, and from a manufacturer's perspective it's hard
to imagine a better source of information from its consumers.


To which I respond: Sorry, I've never purchased any Carter Products.
Certainly would have disclosed that if I had.
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