[10x]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but it is some high speed
footage of the SawStop in action on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1


Joe
aka 10x

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[Mike Marlow[_2_]]

10x wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted before, but it is some high speed
footage of the SawStop in action on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1


Yeah - it's been posted before. I don't think there's a YouTube video on
SawStop that hasn't made its way to the group - or news article, or related
articles, or...

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-Mike-

[Ed Pawlowski]

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...
10x wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted before, but it is some high speed
footage of the SawStop in action on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1


Yeah - it's been posted before. I don't think there's a YouTube video on
SawStop that hasn't made its way to the group - or news article, or
related articles, or...

--

-Mike-



I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a real
finger. Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

[notbob]

On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a real
finger. Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. I was jes a tad bit skeptical. I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five!

nb

[SonomaProducts.com]

I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

But this is still America (for now), so until our Govt' says you must
buy it, you can make your own choice.

On Mar 24, 10:21*am, notbob wrote:
On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a real
finger. * Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. *I was jes a tad bit skeptical. *I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. *Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. *I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five! *

nb

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:33:35 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
wrote:

I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

If it were ObamaCare, you could wait until you sawed a finger off and then buy
the SawStop.

I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

SawStops are twice what I paid for my Unisaw. It's certainly not twice the
saw. If I had employees I likely would consider a SawStop cheap insurance.

But this is still America (for now), so until our Govt' says you must
buy it, you can make your own choice.

Not since yesterday it's not. Wait for more shoes to drop.

On Mar 24, 10:21*am, notbob wrote:
On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a real
finger. * Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. *I was jes a tad bit skeptical. *I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. *Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. *I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five! *

nb

[Al]

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

But this is still America (for now), so until our Govt' says you must
buy it, you can make your own choice.

On Mar 24, 10:21 am, notbob wrote:
On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a
real
finger. Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. I was jes a tad bit skeptical. I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five!

nb
Hmmmm, when I cut a finger off on the table saw it ended up costing me
$11,000, more surgery 6 months later was another 4,000-5,000. I wish I had a
saw stop! I miss my finger! That's what happens because of a brain fart.

[Robert Bonomi]

In article ,
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

SawStop doesn't give a MSRP that i could find on their web-site,

Dealer (base model) prices found on-line --
$3 grand for the cabinet saw
$1,600 for the contractor saw.

There are other contemporary on-line quotes of _over_ $4 grand for a
cabinet SawStop, by the tine you get the 'necessary' accessories.
(use a dado blade, you've got to have a different brake cartridge.
nearly $100 additional, etc. etc., ad nauseum.)


Aside: "Fine homebuilding" reported in 2003, that SawStop 2004 pricing
would be $699 for the contractor saw, and $2,199 for the cabinet saw.
That's a pretty hefty increase in circa 6 years. ($699 in 2004 is
a bit over $800 in today's money; $2,199 in 2004 is just over $2,500
of today's money.)

[LDosser]

"10x" wrote in message
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I don't know if this has been posted before,

ROTFL!!

but it is some high speed
footage of the SawStop in action on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1


Joe
aka 10x

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[Leon[_6_]]

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a
real
finger. Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. I was jes a tad bit skeptical. I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five!

nb

The problem with practicing good shop safety is that you do not know
everything that could happen and therefore cannot possibly prevent every
type of injury. You certainly have the right to choose how safe you want to
be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first step
to becoming injured.

[Leon[_6_]]

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

As would I.

I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

From what I have seen, about $500~$1000 more than a "comparable" saw.

[Leon[_6_]]

wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:33:35 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
wrote:

I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

If it were ObamaCare, you could wait until you sawed a finger off and then
buy
the SawStop.

You can do that now...




I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

SawStops are twice what I paid for my Unisaw. It's certainly not twice
the
saw. If I had employees I likely would consider a SawStop cheap
insurance.

You must have gotten a "deal" on your Unisaw as I have not seen a SawStop
that goes for more than $5K.

[Leon[_6_]]

"Al" wrote in message
...

Yeah. I was jes a tad bit skeptical. I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five!

nb
Hmmmm, when I cut a finger off on the table saw it ended up costing me
$11,000, more surgery 6 months later was another 4,000-5,000. I wish I had
a saw stop! I miss my finger! That's what happens because of a brain fart.


'~) and NO ONE has a big enough supply of Gas-X pills to keep'm safe for
ever.

[[email protected]]

On Mar 25, 11:33*am, "Leon" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:33:35 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
wrote:

I'd easily pay a few thou to get back the missing bit off one of my
fingers which was removed by a nasty ole RAS. The mistake I made could
have just as easily raked across the entire set of fingers on the left
hand but I was fortunate it was just a nib.

If it were ObamaCare, you could wait until you sawed a finger off and then
buy
the SawStop.

You can do that now...

But SawStop insurance won't cover the finger if it's purchased
afterwards.

I don't think the Saw Stops are a few thou more, maybe almost a thou.
And a damn fine piece of equipment from the close looks I've taken.
I'll have one at some point. Wouldn't stand an employee in front of
anything less either.

SawStops are twice what I paid for my Unisaw. *It's certainly not twice
the
saw. *If I had employees I likely would consider a SawStop cheap
insurance.

You must have gotten a "deal" on your Unisaw as I have not seen a SawStop
that goes for more than $5K.

3HP, LT, 2-wings, 50" Biesemeyer. $1600 a year ago. The SawStop was
$3295 at the time.

[SonomaProducts.com]

On Mar 25, 9:29*am, "Leon" wrote:
"notbob" wrote in message

...

On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a
real
finger. * Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. *I was jes a tad bit skeptical. *I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. *Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. *I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five! *

nb

The problem with practicing good shop safety is that you do not know
everything that could happen and therefore cannot possibly prevent every
type of injury. *You certainly have the right to choose how safe you want to
be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first step
to becoming injured.

Amen bruddah

[notbob]

On 2010-03-25, Leon wrote:

be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first step
to becoming injured.

So, you're saying that MILLIONS of former woodworkers are morons and
they're all missing digits cuz Sawstop didn't exist? Who knew?

nb

[SonomaProducts.com]

On Mar 25, 10:55*am, notbob wrote:
On 2010-03-25, Leon wrote:

be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first step
to becoming injured.

So, you're saying that MILLIONS of former woodworkers are morons and
they're all missing digits cuz Sawstop didn't exist? *Who knew? *

nb

No. Anybody can\does make a mistake and Saw Stop can\could've minimize
the cost of that mistake.

[Max]

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
On Mar 25, 10:55 am, notbob wrote:
On 2010-03-25, Leon wrote:

be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first
step
to becoming injured.

So, you're saying that MILLIONS of former woodworkers are morons and
they're all missing digits cuz Sawstop didn't exist? Who knew?

nb

No. Anybody can\does make a mistake and Saw Stop can\could've minimize
the cost of that mistake.

Just the thought of how much more money I would have to spend on a saw stop
and the repairs after an accident would be enough to keep me doubly alert.

Max (gad!! Now I'm afraid to use the damn saw.)

[SonomaProducts.com]

On Mar 25, 8:30*pm, "Max" wrote:
"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message

...
On Mar 25, 10:55 am, notbob wrote:

On 2010-03-25, Leon wrote:

be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first
step
to becoming injured.

So, you're saying that MILLIONS of former woodworkers are morons and
they're all missing digits cuz Sawstop didn't exist? Who knew?

nb
No. Anybody can\does make a mistake and Saw Stop can\could've minimize
the cost of that mistake.

Just the thought of how much more money I would have to spend on a saw stop
and the repairs after an accident would be enough to keep me doubly alert..

Max (gad!! *Now I'm afraid to use the damn saw.)

Smile

[LDosser]

"Leon" wrote in message
...

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2010-03-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I've seen the hot dog plenty of times, but this it he first I've seen a
real
finger. Time Warp is a favorite of mine.

Yeah. I was jes a tad bit skeptical. I had faith in it stopping
before taking off a finger, but not before it did jes a bit 'o damage.
Maybe at least break the skin and expose a couple of capillaries to
air, like a scratch. Amazing, to be sure, but not enough to pay a
couple thousand extra fer a table saw. I'll just practice good shop
safety and save the money for another tool ...or five!

nb

The problem with practicing good shop safety is that you do not know
everything that could happen and therefore cannot possibly prevent every
type of injury. You certainly have the right to choose how safe you want
to be and how far to take precautions but "thinking that you will always
practice good shop safety" will keep you out of harms way is your first
step to becoming injured.


The problem with SawStop is not everyone can afford one. I think the
government should Subsidize the purchase of a SawStop over what we can
afford. I can afford a used Ryobi BT3000 and would like the subsidy sent
directly to my bank account.

Thanks in advance.
LD

[Jeff Gorman]

"Leon" wrote

The problem with practicing good shop safety is that you do not know
everything that could happen and therefore cannot possibly prevent every
type of injury.

Very true, but we can learn from the detail of other people's experiences.

Not a cosy read, and probably known to most of the present company, but
there's a list on my site at http://tinyurl.com/yjbmj8t

Jeff

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email : Username is amgron
ISP is clara.co.uk
www.amgron.clara.net